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waves 06-19-2014 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lara (Post 1076872)
Nope. No problems whatsoever regarding the reflux. The problem was purely mechanical. Once the valve was fixed and the diaphragm tightened up all was fine. [sounds a bit like a car tune-up lol]. It was a massive operation back then though. ugh. These days it would have been done with keyhole surgery.

Wow. I wonder if they will offer me surgery. I have to have a gastroscopy. I guess from that they will tell me if it's a mechanical problem or what.

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I need it to function at 5am ;)
If a doctor told me not to drink my 2 two little cups per day I'd stop but I love the smell, the taste and the effect.
My sentiments exactly, minus the 5 am (whatever time I get up, I need it to function). :D

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I do drink it with a strange look on my face. :wink:
LOL. :D

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My daughter uses one called "steamed green tea". It isn't too bitter.
It's about the only one I can enjoy a little bit.
I wonder what they do to it. I suppose it's processsed differently.

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There is a White Tea. I remember buying it once. It was very pale. I didn't mind it but I prefer a full bodied black tea.
Oh gosh, I thought White Tea or Emperor's Tea was a type of green tea... I'm seeing that it isn't. Yes, I actually treat green tea as a completely different beverage to black tea. If I'm in the mood for the one, the other wouldn't do.
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There are specialist tea stores now. You can go along and get a mix if you like or just buy a little bag. Black Caravan, Orange Pekoe (which I love) and also herbal blends with hibiscus and all sorts of other things. Sooo expensive though!
There is a tea house here which does this... but yes... very expensive... not doable. I don't think there are too many. Not a tea country and all. I'm sure I can probably find some asian/Chinese markets because there is a high Chinese population.

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My daughter has a paradoxical response to coffee. It makes her sleepy.
Green tea does not. She studies most of day and depending on the time of year, day and night, so she finds the green tea helpful during her slumps which are often.
That is VERY strange! I wonder why... must be one of the other chemicals, or else she has that responsee to high dose caffeine. I believe apart from there being much less caffeine in green tea, it is also absorbed very gradually because of the high phenol concentration. Coffee also has other substances though, which might contribute to her reaction, if it's not strictly a quantitative thing.

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waves 06-19-2014 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lara (Post 1076842)
another thought... I wonder if it's the Tannin that is the problem for you. Just thinking.

This could very well be. I take tea quite strong -- I like it that way, but there would be a lot of tannins. If I've the slightest bit of upset it makes it worse. In the morning on an empty stomach (no upset), it can make me nauseous. Coffee never makes me nauseous, and often will settle a slightly-upset stomach, or mild stomach congestion.

I haven't really had stomach symtpoms with this reflux thing, so far anyway, so I'm not sure yet how much tea vs coffee or other things are ok, and how much not. I shall test and observe. ;)

waves

Lara 06-19-2014 11:55 PM

http://www.healthline.com/health/gerd/coffee-tea

Coffee vs. Tea for GERD
Written by Robin Madell | Published on June 30, 2012
Medically Reviewed by George Krucik, MD

[lots of info. in the "Article Sources" at the end.
Click on show all]


http://www.healthline.com/health/gerd/triggers
Track your Triggers

Brokenfriend 06-20-2014 01:47 AM

Waves I get heartburn if I don't take a anti-acid medication in the morning. Right now I take equate Lansoprazole from Wal-Mart. It's a 24 hour acid reducer.

I looked up caffeine patches. They are probably to expensive,and may not be what you are looking for. I came up with CaffeDerm patches(300 Mg) over 18 hour duration(7 patches) Probably to expensive. Then I saw"Spot on energy"(65 Mg per patch).

I have heart burn that might be acid reflux. When it goes up to the top of my stomach,I cough. Pepcid Complete(One tablet from)a(One Hundred Tablet bottle)) gets rid of heart burn for me when it flares. One tablet works. I've tried the Alka-Seltzer Fruit Chews,but the Pepcid Complete works better for me. I also sometimes take the Alka-Seltzer that dissolves in water. That works better sometimes in some cases. Sometimes Sea Salt Premium crackers(Nabisco)help with stomach problems.

If it turns into Diarrhea,:eek::blush::Sinking:I take generic Imodium from Sams Club. There are 350 caplets in one bottle. It's called Loperamide hydrochloride tablets(2 Mg) There are a lot in the bottle. Imodium brand name is to expensive.

I've had a lifetime with stomach,and intestinal irritation due to anxiety,and medications. BF:o:hug::hug::hug:

waves 06-20-2014 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lara (Post 1076898)
http://www.healthline.com/health/gerd/coffee-tea

Coffee vs. Tea for GERD
Written by Robin Madell | Published on June 30, 2012
Medically Reviewed by George Krucik, MD

[lots of info. in the "Article Sources" at the end.
Click on show al
l]

Thanks very much, Lara! :) I am still going through these... have to go out very soon, so have only looked at the first two so far. The top one, albeit a small study (N=7) was relevant to me:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10563539
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Coffee had no effect on postprandial acid reflux time or number of reflux episodes, either in GORD patients or in healthy subjects. Coffee increased the percentage acid reflux time only when ingested in the fasting period in the GORD patients (median 2.6, range 0-19.3 versus median 0, range 0-8.3; P = 0.028), but not in the healthy subjects. No effect of coffee on postprandial lower oesophageal sphincter pressure (LOSP), patterns of LOSP associated with reflux episodes or oesophageal contractions was found.

CONCLUSION:
Coffee has no important effect on gastro-oesophageal acid reflux in GORD patients, and no effect at all in healthy subjects.
Their conclusion does not accurately reflect their results. Their results report a difference between GORD(GERD) and healthy subjects in regard to coffee taken fasting. This is highly relevant to me, because I drink most of my coffee on an empty stomach.

waves 06-20-2014 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 1076928)
Waves I get heartburn if I don't take a anti-acid medication in the morning. Right now I take equate Lansoprazole from Wal-Mart. It's a 24 hour acid reducer.

This type of medicine called a Proton-Pump Inhibitor (PPI). The doc gave me one, in a high dosage -- esomeprazole (Nexium in the US).

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I looked up caffeine patches. They are probably to expensive,and may not be what you are looking for. I came up with CaffeDerm patches(300 Mg) over 18 hour duration(7 patches) Probably to expensive. Then I saw"Spot on energy"(65 Mg per patch).
Perhaps too expensive and possibly not available to me, but what an excellent idea!!!!! Patches shouldn't affect the stomach! I will look into it. :)

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I have heart burn that might be acid reflux. When it goes up to the top of my stomach,I cough.
Yeah, I don't get the heart burn. I cough after I eat. I've had occasional episodes of chest pain in the past few months that seemed respiratory or muscular but are almost surely explained by reflux. I'm just now realizing that I have a very very mild version of the same kind of pain, chronically. I also notice just slightly when I swallow, at times. :eek:

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I've had a lifetime with stomach,and intestinal irritation due to anxiety,and medications. BF:o:hug::hug::hug:
I am sorry, Steve.

It does sound like you could have reflux. Given you've had it for some time, it might be good to ask your doctor about a gastroscopy? Usually patients with GERD are given this test, periodically. It is a preventive measure, because chronic reflux can have some serious complications. The complications do not produce symptoms, so gastroscopy is the only way you'd know before things get tooo serious. :o


:hug::hug:
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waves 06-20-2014 07:30 AM

I am about to embark on my second cup of coffee -- half-caf -- for the day. :rolleyes:

.... on an empty stomach, mind you.

Then I will go pick up the CAT results.

waves

Mari 06-20-2014 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by waves (Post 1076941)
I am about to embark on my second cup of coffee -- half-caf -- for the day. :rolleyes:

.... on an empty stomach, mind you.

Then I will go pick up the CAT results.

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It is hard to do these things when one needs help to get moving with aids like coffee. Good luck.

M

waves 06-20-2014 12:01 PM

Cat is clear: my sinuses are fine. Good for the sinuses. Bad for the overall situation.

So it's the nerves wreaking havoc....... possibly because they are having havoc wreaked upon them by something else, such as the reflux problem perhaps.

I have to work hard to get the reflux symptoms controlled. If the nerve sensitivities are a consequence, they should subside... I can hope, anyway.

:o

Mari 06-20-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by waves (Post 1076982)
Cat is clear: my sinuses are fine. Good for the sinuses. Bad for the overall situation.

So it's the nerves wreaking havoc....... possibly because they are having havoc wreaked upon them by something else, such as the reflux problem perhaps.

I have to work hard to get the reflux symptoms controlled. If the nerve sensitivities are a consequence, they should subside... I can hope, anyway.

:o

Oh.
Good new bad news on the results.

You did accomplish something. That is very good news.

M


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