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Thank you, so much, Donna. Hugely appreciated. Or should I say huggly appreciated.

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Red face Cold is grounding. Food is lacking.

Having a cold seems to be grounding me. Moodwise, I feel slightly better, but then the pressure is off to do anything at all because I am "sick".

It also seems to help my parents relate to me... they feel sorry for me now because I am "sick". I feel miserable, but I actually feel better now with my stupid cold and food limits than I did Christmas eve and all of Christmas Day, what with the panic attack, the reprise of stomach trouble, and pressure to eat socially and be nice.

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I am not eating enough. Hopefully that will improve a bit. I am having fewer symptoms and sometimes no symptoms now, when I eat, which is encouraging. However I still get full after a very small amount of food, so I end up having about 4 "meals" a day that together barely add up to one dinner's worth of food.

I've lost 8 lbs in the 4 weeks I've been back. I am a bit concerned about the weight loss. I don't need to worry about being underweight yet, but another month of this and I will have to like, get protein powder and drink sugar water and stuff. Anyway cross that bridge. For now I still have a bit I can let go. I need my cold gone though so I can get about a bit more. Right now, I am underactive and really afraid of burning muscle. Need to burn fat reserves, not my muscles, if burn I must.
Burn out the day
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Got hungry. Having a banana. This will probably be my last "meal" today, unless I stay up until 11 or something. The bananas are overripe. I hope someone else gets to the other two because I don't see them making it till my next fruit-meal. Maybe I will make frozen banana dessert for everyone.

Today's "meals":

4 pm ..... small slice of Christmas bread
7 pm ..... ~1/2 portion boiled salmon, piece of raw fennel
11 pm ... ~1/2 carrot, dry-sauteed, slice of cheddar w/ bread
6 am ..... banana (just now)

That's more or less what I've been having daily, in terms of food types and quantity. Need more veggies, but calories more important for now.

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--- lots of tea with made with decocted ginger water and honey.
--- The cheddar is not ideal but I have to finish it. There is just one more slice. After that it will be the yogurts' turn, as they expire on the 5th.

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Sudafed is fantastic!
However did I manage this long without it. I wonder if the compounding pharmacy can/will make me some.

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Waves,

By my VERY rough calculations, you ate 350 calories.
(Christmas bread, 1/2 portion boiled salmon, piece of raw fennel, 1/2 carrot, dry-sauteed, slice of cheddar w/ bread, banana)

So a pattern is emerging.

I am a little curious about what you consider a "day" because for me a "day" has to do with the time I wake up (the real wake up and not the naps) and when I go to sleep.
When people have concerns about a toddler (and I guess it works for adults), they have little foods handy so that the toddler/adult can pick them up and eat them with out much thought throughout the day.
So keeping prepared snacks or meals in snack sizes out or easily available can work.
Protein-type snackie things in this case would be good.

You seem to be on top of it. Another month of 8 pounds down would be with-stand-able you say and that seems right to me because you want to go by how you feel. There are already a lot of feelings right now to make sense of/ deal with/ cry over/ fix/ . . . . This can simmer on the back burner while it is watched but not tended.

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Especially thanks for understanding about the screaming. I feel so awkward, and ashamed, and then I do that, and it is really shameful behavior, really shameful.
It happened. It is over. Your "behavior" helped her understand what you had been saying. If you do not want to use "Broken Record Technique" in the future, you do not have to but it is o.k. to forgive yourself.
. . in other words, totally not shameful.
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will try to channel people -- people who can respond better to those situations. But so far, impulse
Not impulse. You are overwhelmed perhaps.

I am comfortable knowing that you have an appt soon.
I am aware that you are not in danger but I think you are possibly at a turning point OR a place where there should be a turn to get better.
I really believe that we should not be alone to decide on health matters by ourselves when we have access to medical help and such.


I will go with my broken leg metaphor for a minute:
If someone had a broken leg, we would not ask the person to wait it out or do home remedies. We would tell that person to get help as soon as it was possible. In effect, that is what you are doing with the Jan appt. THat is good.

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They are hopeless unless you are having a heart attack or have a visibly broken leg, and even then it's like a box of Forrest Gump's chocolates.
Well, I am sorry about that and I am sorry that I used the broken leg as an example.

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It is a feeling, a deep, cutting feeling, but it does not go anywhere and it does not cause me to do anything. I am helpless to it, but that, at least, does not stay. It happens in waves. If that quality stayed, I would have texted my therapist/pdoc by now.
What you describe is major stinky. Sorry.


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way below baseline right now.
Lots and lots of hugs.



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I'd think only bereavement could cause this degree of emotional ailing.
That helps maybe --- in terms of thinking about how you feel.
So, maybe not something to "get over" but to "get through."

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Then there are other things, too. There was the shock of seeing my friends' successes. Their resumes, their positions, their lifestyles.
I totally hear you on that. Because I am there too.

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I had to smile and make pretty. I made Candy Crush jokes and made myself even more ridiculous...
I cannot talk to people very well because I have no life. Even with people at work, I cannot make small talk -- and thus cannot connect well. I have nothing going on to talk about beyond the minutia of today or yesterday. I am not even aware of cultural reverences because I am not reading/watching the same tv, news, or movies, or listening to the same music as they are. And that is because I have to "hide" from the world to protect myself and my bipolar.
The siblings "get" each other, but I believe that one degree past that -- to first cousins -- would put me in a place where I might as well be talking to a stranger. Actually talking to a complete stranger would be easier than talking to co-worker/neighbor/close relative.

I wish you had someone to help you not see a mountain before you.
It is a step pathway.

Or maybe the mountain is underneath you and holding you up/ giving you standing.

Keep posting.
Keep letting us know what is going on.
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I have to be up at 9:30 to drive two people to the airport.
If necessary, hubby will drive and I will ignore that he is freaked out about driving through the airport signage.
Dad can tell him to get in this lane or that lane for departures.
Maybe I will sit directly behind hubby and tap hubby on the left or right shoulder as he does not seem to respond well to verbal commands when he is stressed.

Take care.

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By my VERY rough calculations, you ate 350 calories.
(Christmas bread, 1/2 portion boiled salmon, piece of raw fennel, 1/2 carrot, dry-sauteed, slice of cheddar w/ bread, banana)

So a pattern is emerging.
Wow, I was thinking maybe 600-800. Don't forget the tea will add about 150 calories from sugar. The Christmas Bread is caloric -- the dough is made with egg and butter.

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I am a little curious about what you consider a "day" because for me a "day" has to do with the time I wake up (the real wake up and not the naps) and when I go to sleep.
Right, exactly it. Currently, my "day" starts at 3-4 pm (that's "morning" ) and ends at bed time around 9-10 am... it mostly tends to push forward. Sometimes it seems like my circadian rhythm is like 25 hours.

When I start waking up at the parents' dinner time, I usually try to wrap around/stay awake through the day. Invariably I fail and my sleep pattern disintegrates: I go all over the map with arbitrary napping.

Regardless of sleep habits, for food/calorie purposes, I will always break time up into discrete 24-hour periods and call that a "day".

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So keeping prepared snacks or meals in snack sizes out or easily available can work.
Protein-type snackie things in this case would be good.
Most of the things I eat are in fact pre-prepped. Either they are left overs (the turkey roast that I was having in sandwich, or the salmon) or I prep them ahead of time. Yesterday I cooked an apple. Tomorrow I think I will make a julienne zucchini/carrot salad and either eat the cheddar with it or yogurt. There is also cooked ham and prosciutto. I try to have a bit of everything and go heavy on the protein if I can. Proteic things are harder, so I often combine them.

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You seem to be on top of it. Another month of 8 pounds down would be with-stand-able you say and that seems right to me because you want to go by how you feel.
Withstandable but I hope not to go there. Another 8 pounds this fast would simply be too fast, even if it wouldn't make me underweight.

The appetite will theoretically start to increase as my stomach settles down. If it doesn't happen very soon, I seriously will try protein powder. (Blechhh! Fake food!) I wonder if they sell krill for humans. And I will talk to the doctor.

(BTW, good news... I got hungry again and had the nearly-half portion of salmon that was left. So add another what, another 100 calories? It was maybe 2 oz.

Agghhhh. Dad is up. Morning tea-time and blood pressure taking!

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There are already a lot of feelings right now to make sense of/ deal with/ cry over/ fix/ . . . . This can simmer on the back burner while it is watched but not tended.

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Yeah. Some really heavy stuff on the brain. That is really what I have the January appointment for. I saw him once already but talked about my friend mostly, and the difficulties with that. But that is background too, for some realizations I had. I wrote notes, too as it was important.... to do with confidence, self-esteem... and the basis perhaps for my lack of direction and motivation. Big, crucial stuff. So he will evaluate my "depression" too, in view of recent events as well as these daunting personal epiphanies. And we'll see.

For the stomach, yes, it's mostly an observing for now, although there is some tending in terms of preparing or thinking out possible foods to have. But mostly it will be an exercise in patience, I think, as rushing will only set me back.

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You know, I was also wondering how much these stomach/reflux symptoms are agrravated by anxiety.

A couple of things happened. Christmas Eve I had the panic attack. I also hadn't slept and never eat much when I am unslept. We had a light dinner, but I "felt" the meal.

The next day I woke up with a cold and took 1000 mg vitamin C soluble fizzy drink.

Now. I wonder. Maybe the panic messed me up. Or. Maybe that vitamin C really did a number. But bear in mind, I had been having a glass of wine here and there, on prior days, without any problem. I'd not expect the vitamin C do do any worse than wine! But... a possibility.

The other is that the panic threw me off kilter -- I know it messed up my breathing badly. I have read that anxiety aggravates reflux sx considerably because of the impact on the diaphragm. So I wonder. I don't really feel terribly anxious any more but I'm still biting my fingers badly so there's an undercurrent.

Oh god that salmon is seriously swimming around in there now. OOoops.

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p.s. Dad is now left to finish both the rose and the red coz I can't touch it!
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I swallowed a whole slice of ginger.




I make tea/decoctions with sliced ginger,then I take the "used" slices and put them in my drinking water. It infuses with ginger flavor because it sits there a long time -- I drink other things. Mostly, I take pills with that water.

SO:

I had to take a migraine pill just now. They are small. I took a gulp of my water, and felt "the pill" go down. It felt kind of large, actually.

Then I realized the pill was still floating in my mouth with a bit of water.

What must have gone down is a whole slice of ginger. Granted it has lost most of its punch, but I just bit another slice from the water... it is still moderately spicy.

I have no idea what it will to do to me!

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I hope you are feeling o.k.

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