I just heard one of them say that the bill is to harsh.

I guess they are going to spin the news, and change it around.

The guy said his bosses are who he represents (Voters) in his State, and not the president.

I wonder what the news is going to say next. I hope that it's only speculation.
This has been a horrible weekend!!! BF:hug::hug::hug:

Oh yes. I think that I saw the one on TV that you were talking about. I don't want to say anything about him because that would be a political comment. BF:hug::hug::hug:

The "CBO score" for this bill from the congressional budget committee is expected "as early as today" and it will give an estimate of what this bill is expected to do/not do, and what it will cost in its current state. It should be interesting, but probably jarring.

I heard that if there is "more money left over," whatever that means, they may expand Medicade further, but IDK about the likelihood of that.


I understand your anger, BF. You have every reason to be angry :hug::hug::hug:

The problem with making changes to the healthcare system is that the changes are always going to effect the most vulnerable of us because we are the ones who utilize the system the most. And because of medical and mental healthcare problems, a lot of people end up relying on programs like Medicaid. I think it's massive abuses in that system that have led to it growing out of control and the increased calls for cuts to it, endangering people who really need it... people like you, my friend :hug::hug::hug:

They are now going to delay the vote. BF:hug::hug::hug:

In Indiana because I don't know how other states Medicaid waivers work.
It will really effect the people like Derrick that have finally gotten the
waivers. Along with regular Medicaid. Its really going to make a mess
also especially for those children that really need more medical than
other kids. Our advocates are calling and sitting in every day or two.

I am 59 and have a few more years before it will effect me. But with
all the health issues I've been having. Wow,

Donna :hug::grouphug:

Senator Schumer of New York says the Healthcare bill is rotten to the core. I saw that live on Tuesday afternoon, and put it in my Facebook page.

They are going to put off the vote because they know that they will not win, unless they have done something between when I saw that yesterday afternoon, and now.

They will have to change the Bill.

I'm glad that we have advocates. I don't think that allot of people know what Medicaid is, including the Senators.

One thing that it does is help people with Mental Health issues, and help them afford their medications. That's what the original bill was to help with.

I just have not been myself recently. I feel really bad, and feel like I've broken up inside a little. I don't know how to explain it. I feel deeply discouraged, and uninterested in a lot of things right now. My future hope is compromised. If they change the bill I will feel better. My therapist doesn't think that I will be affected because of my age. I don't know.

I'll go to CNN, and check it again. I don't know what they have said, or done in the last six hours. BF:hug::hug::hug:

Your therapist is probably right.

Medicare is safer than medicaid.

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The politicians know exactly who is on medicaid:
1) Half of babies born in this country are born to mothers with medicaid.
2) 1.75 million veterans veterans (young and old) are on medicaid
3) 34,800,000 children (Almost 36 million) are on medicaid

M

They will have to do a lot to the bill because there are 9 Republican senators opposing it- moderates and conservatives, and they want very different things. Most of the moderates are opposed to cutting Medicaid expansion. The bill would do that over time, so your therapist is right… it's unlikely to effect you because of your age, but also because you qualified for Medicaid before the expansion when Obama Care went into effect. I'm sure you would qualify for extra help when you get on Medicare.

It sounds like you are depressed, BF :hug::hug::hug:
I hope that it is only situational. That would make sense because of everything that is going on, but it is something to keep an eye on :hug::hug::hug:

Please walk away from the news. It is causing you grief. Perhaps if you can focus on other things then you could feel better.
Worrying will not help you, it only hurts you.
I am sorry you struggle so much.
(((((HUGS)))))
love bizi

Can anyone clarify," The Mental Health Parity, and addiction Equity Act (MHPAEA) of 2008 that was signed into law at some point in the last ten years. Are they trying to forget, and under mind that? My reading problem is getting a little worse, so I cannot read all of the information on it. Are they going to try to throw that under the bus?

The news has changed today. They have had 24 hours to scramble the outcome of information of what was said yesterday.

Again please forgive me. I'm not myself recently. I don't feel good about anything I see on the news. They have expert talkers on these news channels on TV that confuse the issues, and are talking like they represent everyone. There are speculations, and opinions according to what they want I believe. They don't speak for everyone. It's ruff listening to it. BF:hug::hug::hug:

Just hang in there bro....we are all in the same boat....Please take a little comforte that its just not you.....Sounds like this crap can affect millions of Americans.

I keep the tV off news alot last 6 months....Nothing helpful or good listen to.....American Pickers has been on my TV alot these days!

davOD I watch American Pickers also.:) BF:grouphug:

sorry I can't clarify anything for you.
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi:hug:

The Mental Health Parity and addiction Equity Act (MHPAEA) became part
of Obama Care which became law in 2010.
Implementation of MHPAEA | SAMHSA - Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration


M

They were working on the Mental Health Parity, and addiction Equity Act before Obama became president. I remember this. It was so important. I hope that it doesn't end!!! BF:hug::hug::hug:

We were making progress in getting this to be understood by the public. We needed to be accepted. Mental Health help must remain. BF:hug::hug::hug:

When I went to the nail salon the last time there was a lady there in her 40s who was newly diagnosed with MS. The bulk of that conversation was upsetting to me for a lot of reasons, but…

What was really upsetting was that when she mentioned depression, and I said I was bipolar, and it was like a hush went over the room and everyone was suddenly uncomfortable. I still was not embarrassed. I was ****** because they are ignorant.

YEAH,

At work I hear for example that someone has back problems or whatever.

But I cannot mention what is going on with me.

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When it is obvious I am having a problem I lie and say any of the following:

stomach ache/head ache/ tired/

M

All sensible people agree with you.

:hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:


M

Who can we call to plead with to keep the Mental Health Parity, and addiction Equity Act? I'm getting help from them. BF:hug::hug::hug:

Here is an article about Roslyn Carter who works for mental health:

Rosalynn Carter: The Driving Force For Mental Health Equality...The Driving Force of Hope | HuffPost





M

Mari Thank you for this information. I didn't know that Roslyn Carter is a driving force for mental health, and mental well being. BF:hug::hug::hug:

nice article.
thanks mari.
bizi

I agree. It was a nice article. I wish that more people cared about the mental health of people in America, and around the world.

The subject should be at the top of the list. People should know that the mental health of people is just as important as physical health. Discrimination has got to stop sooner, or later. I hope that it's sooner. BF:hug::hug::hug:

Kay, I think you have said it pretty well; it's massive abuses that are really at issue. So many were added when Obamacare came in. The amount of people eligible have expanded to the highest number of those ever on Medicaid. It is my understanding the really issue is not cutting Medicaid; but lowering the annual increase. Which is similar to cost of living raises. They do not intend to remove people; again just the annual increases lowered before the costs are totally out of control.

Unfortunately; the scare tactics work on those again; most vulnerable; even if they are often not true. Sad.


Gerry

I disagree with most of your points, thats fine......If you cut, you wont help.....As far as I know our population is growing!....So even if it stayed the same we would be cutting out people just because of the numbers.

We sure have no problem killing and maming people all around the world in the name of freedom...and its costed trillions so far
But help americains?.....for some reason thats a bad thing?....But if you are one of those that will get a tax break....I bet it will feel awsome for them.:Ponder:

Nope; nothing for me. Just hope and pray there's enough for those in need. Not cutting anyone out; my understanding is annual raise % would not be as high to allow for those in need to be covered now and in the future.
Don't know where the rest is coming from.....:hug:



Gerry

Gerry is correct.

The issue is Medicaid expansion.

When Obama Care came into effect, people who otherwise would not qualify for Medicaid became eligible based on expanded income guidelines. Under the the new bill up for debate, fewer people who qualify for Medicaid based on those expanded income guidelines would qualify over time and states would have more control over the Medicaid program (something a lot of people don't like).

The problem is that if less people with lower incomes qualify for Medicaid, legislators need to find a way to make sure that they will be able to have access to affordable health care. There are different ideas about how they will do that. That's where the controversy lies.


There are other obvious issues with the bill, but that's just the explanation of it as it applies to Medicaid.

Some states expanded medicare during Obama and some did not:

A 5-State Look at Medicaid Expansion | Families USA



This governor wants to expand medicare but he needs the support of his
Congress:
McAuliffe pushes Virginia Medicaid expansion after GOP's failure to repeal Obamacare - CNNPolitics.com

Thank you for explaining that more clearly, Mari.