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OhKay 05-17-2019 10:53 AM

Of course it would have been better to get an earlier appointment, but you didn't know that you would continue to feel so shitty :hug::hug::hug:

It is still rather early in the day. Could you CALL her and ask her over the phone if you can discontinue the Depakote because you are feeling so rotten? You still have to get through the weekend, and then wait for 3 days otherwise.

I know you had issues with your stomach before the Depakote. Do you think it's making it worse?
How does your stomach feel? Is it a cramping feeling? Sharp pain? Maybe we can make suggestions that will help if we have a better idea of what's going on.
How is your appetite?

I hope you start feeling better. You sound miserable (((HUGS)))

mymorgy 05-17-2019 12:57 PM

her office is closed on friday. It is more like indigestion. I looked up how to get off of Depakote and it said to taper. I didn't raise the dosage since I was feeling so rotten. I am about on the initial dosage and it might not be hard to get off of it since I haven't been on it that long I don't know why I need a mood stabilizer since the antidepressant and the klonopin were working. I don't know if I ever had a manic phase and that it what it is prescribed for. right now i am depressed.i forgot that i had stomach issues before. this is really uncomfortable. i had stomach problems when i was under a lot of stress and Pudgey was sick and I was switching psychiatrists. I totally lot my appetite and lost 18 pounds.

mymorgy 05-18-2019 07:24 AM

I am going to ask her if I can take topamax as a mood stabilizer. I have to tell her for health reasons F@#k it she should know I an't afford to gain more weight.I can't take medications that cause weight gain. I can't take lamictal because it bothered my gums. She doesn't strike me as adaptable. She should know that I can't afford to gain weight. I desperately need to lose it. I gained so much weight on the medications. At 35 I was 128 to 130 pounds. I blew up on lithium that didn't work. All the other mood stabilizers
cause weight gain.

OhKay 05-18-2019 07:43 AM

I think you are right in that it will not be hard (or take too long) to get off the Depakote.

You probably have never had a full-blown manic episode since you are BP type II. You probably have had plenty of hypomanic episodes that aren't as severe tho. It is very common for people who are type II to take mood stabilizers even tho their main symptom is depression. I can't tell you whether or not a mood stabilizer is right for you or not. That is something you have to discuss with your pdoc the next time you see her. I would ask her that question directly.

I have stomach problems that are being treated somewhat better now, but I know how lousy it feels to deal with that kind of discomfort all the time, and to have anxiety aggravate it. I'm sorry that you are having to go though it (((HUGS)))

Have you tried taking Zantac yet? It's an older med, but it works really well, and may help you.

But I think you should consider seeing your PCP about your stomach problems since this has been going on for so long. If you have acid reflux, it could do damage over time if untreated...
And 18 pounds is A LOT of weight to lose without trying, too :hug::hug::hug:

Are there any particular kinds of foods, textures of foods, etc that are appealing to you at all? When I have no appetite, I will eat small amounts of random things that I like just to eat something. Since I got out of the hospital, I've been trying to eat applesauce when I've needed to make myself eat something. It goes down easy, and has been working out well.

OhKay 05-18-2019 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mymorgy (Post 1275503)
I am going to ask her if I can take topamax as a mood stabilizer. I have to tell her for health reasons F@#k it she should know I an't afford to gain more weight.I can't take medications that cause weight gain. I can't take lamictal because it bothered my gums. She doesn't strike me as adaptable. She should know that I can't afford to gain weight. I desperately need to lose it. I gained so much weight on the medications. At 35 I was 128 to 130 pounds. I blew up on lithium that didn't work. All the other mood stabilizers
cause weight gain.


I thought that you had cognitive problems on Topamax, Bobby?

Geodon is the only mood stabilizer I can think of at the moment that doesn't cause weight gain, but I think that there are new ones out there that don't.

I was under 120lbs (I'm 5'8") when I started taking Seroquel and gained 50lbs!!! At my heaviest, I was 168lbs before I went on the South Beach Diet and went down into the 130's. I've been between 135-155lbs since then.
I am not overweight, but my pdoc doesn't want to prescribe me meds that cause weight gain. I don't know if it's just because I'm already on Seroquel, or what, but she just doesn't want to do it even tho my options are already so limited...

I would *think* that all of the pdocs you see would be very careful about not prescribing you meds that could cause rapid weight gain. But since that's not the case, you have to advocate for yourself. Before accepting another prescription, make sure you ask your pdoc if one of the side effects is rapid weight gain and/or tell her you won't take any meds with that side effect. They all know which meds have that side effect.

mymorgy 05-18-2019 08:32 AM

I just ordered zantac. II ordered ginger tea yesterday. I have tried phillips antacid and gaviscon and rolaids and gasx. I looked up geodon but it looked iffy about mood stabilizer. I think i was okay with topamax at 200 but maybe it was 150. I have to look at my bottle. I really want real ice cream but that is fattening.
I have been having celanto (sp) eggplant parmigano(sp). I like applesauce. so you know what it is like to gain so much weight. I couldn't maintain the south beach diet. I have been so constipated and usually take a laxative. My stomach cleared up before depakote and when the stress in my life decreased dramatically. I am afraid if I make an appt with my gp he will make go for tests. I don't like tests. I have also been drinking peppermint tea and chamomille tea.

bizi 05-18-2019 10:36 AM

There are several things over the counter to try.
zantac
nexium
pepcid, and the generics of each.
I am sorry for the weight gain.

Don't your periods of hypomania compulsion include massive buying of things?
bizi who is gaining weight every day.
sigh
bizi

mymorgy 05-18-2019 11:29 AM

I have been buying tops and books

bizi 05-18-2019 11:38 PM

weren't you buying shoes and pants for a while back last year? and then giving them away?

bizi

mymorgy 05-19-2019 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 1275523)
weren't you buying shoes and pants for a while back last year? and then giving them away?

bizi

I was buying shoes and if they didn't fit was giving them away. I did give away some pants also.Yes I was buying a lot of pants.This time I have bought some black
leggings and two didn't fit so gave them to Cecilia. I still get things for Marci my aide.
I have good news. I didn't have stomach problems and woke up without them.I really cut down the dosage of depakote to one pill at 125. Last week I was so tired I wanted one to go to bed at 5. Last night I finally fell asleep at 1:30. I was obsessing about my psychiatrist and what she will say and what she will give me. she doesn't like klonopin either so I don't know what she will do. I found two psychiatrists on the net who I think take medicare. One of them got great reviews. The current one had one review saying she was a monster. I still have been buying books and listening a lot to Josh Groban


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