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Old 02-18-2022, 07:07 AM #1
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Default Brain damage by meds and psychose, myth or math ?

Hello again,

I heard that medication and also psychose can both struck to do damage to the brain.
I sometimes what I can gain back ?
And what I actually lost ?
Why do we change character so much with these changes ?
I think I heal some, but what can I learn more?

Image of my losses;
- I have trouble with the overview of something that needs work done, and start the steps that I need to succeed.
- I can handle way less stress, I got a little bit more easygoing but still having enough trouble with it.
- I used to have a lot of trouble with my filter, meaning being too talkative and saying everything that comes to mind .. I think this one has changed a lot.
- I gained a lot of weight and I can't shake it off anymore, maybe because of lithium?
- energy level is a lot lower..

Tell me more please

Or is there not much hope ?



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''We know that antipsychotics shrink the brain in a dose-dependent manner (4) and benzodiazepines, antidepressants and ADHD drugs also seem to cause permanent brain damage (5).Sep 9, 2014"

I know that I am not as sharp as i used to be. now i am 77 and had a stroke. I have been on klonopin for so many years. I have read that lithium is only good for bipolar 1. A jerk put me on it even though i am bipolar 2 and all it did was made me gain a lot of weight too. Risperdal really helped but I can't rembember why I was taken off.
STRESS-the enemy
is there a way you can eliminate as much stress as possible. My sleeping is so bad but if you can sleep better that would be great.
My anxiety is awful but I have read that meditation is fantastic. my mind races too much so i have yet been able to relax enough to do it.
what other medications have you tried?
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Hee Bobby !!

77 ? You made it!! Wish I would get that old, beautiful!!
Whats the difference between 1 and 2 ??
I thought it was about psychose level was it not?
I m actually not completely diagnosed bipolar, I am diagnosed schizoaffective(bipolar type) so I have all the symptoms of bipolar but also a lot of schizophrenic symptoms. Thats why I mostly tried antipsychotics ..
Zyprexa, some benzos and risperdal, abilify and paliperidon shots ..rivotril liquid .and I don't remember the rest..
But Im in a perfect balance right now with lithium and paliperidon..feel great..
I wish I would just function better ..
Time will tell ..

How are you getting by? I'm 32
In the midst of most questions about live ...
I live in a small apartment on the ground floor with a little fruit garden . Just put in an apple tree..
Hope it grows..
Like me..


Groetjes laura

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bipolar one you can get psychotic and manic. i have never checked the incidence of bipolar 1 episodes..
more people with bipolar 2 commit suicide and if I remembered right bipolar of all the mental illnesses have the most suicides-eck.
Bipolar 2 doesn't have episodes of psychosis but they suffer so much from anxiety, depression and irritability. A lot have eating disorders.They can get hypomanic and maybe both can go on buying spress If I had a choice i would go for bipolar 1
It sounds like you are doing great! i haven't heard of paliperidon . I thought that after a while you lose the weight you have gained from lithium. I will see what i can find.
i am depressed most of the time unless i read regency history romantic fiction what an escape. I love animals and right now have two precious kitty cats. I live in a high rise on the 18th floor with a great terrace in Manhattan. years ago i had so many flowers and even grew small tomatoes. no more. also afraid for my kitties out there since the building made me take down the added wire railing. I also think the worse but i don't know if that is bipolar.
It sounds as if you are really doing great. Don't add stress to your life.
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Wow I could never live that high with a terrace ..

You sound fun , did you have jobs in your live ?
Is Manhatten not new york almost ?
We have storm Eunice tonight it might have come from across the ocean like you! We have never had a storm like this, come to scare us..

Paliperidon is a younger version of risperdal !
Less side effects ..
We have a lot of scientists trying new meds with us at the hospital..

I wrote a poem against my impulsivity
And a mantra for grounding my ego
This was my first time a bit of a joke but sirius too.

I am good
My house is good
My job is good
I am good
Who I am is good
What I put out is good
I am good

Sort of like that was my mantra in Dutch

Some times I am too much
But I am sweet and cosey too
Wait a while
Sometimes things dissapear
I'm sure it will

If it is necessary
Write it down, make a list
Alone, I am capable
They see me

Does the moment occur
Let it come to you, and cease
Together you'll find a way
Its even more fun that way

That was a poem
In Dutch it's a little different but yah

What do you think does writing diary and stuff like that help others?

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wow. right i live in manhattan, new york city.
i wonder if the storm has arrived. i hope it is not too bad. i was a computer programmer and a child psychologist. i had to go on disability. the final straw was i was badly burnt and luckily had no scares but was in the burn unit for almost two weeks. then went back to programming and quit. no more paqtience.
i have tried many drugs usually they haven't worked at all or turned into a zomby.
i liked your poem. it seems like it would be stabilizing and since a lot of us are very self critical, it would help that too. thank you.i did get confused when you wrote

Sometimes things dissapear
I'm sure it will

If it is necessary
Write it down, make a list
Alone, I am capable
They see me

Does the moment occur
Let it come to you, and cease
Together you'll find a way
Its even more fun that way

i found that confusing.

i heard on the new that biden thinks putin is going to invade ukraine. rats
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Heey here in Holland we have money to support people with problems so you don't have to work if you can't ...
I heard thats way worse in your country ..

I get around a 1000 euro and I pay around 450 for my little home for my house near the city park its a small town. We also have special houses we people for people with less houses ..

The poem starts with sometimes I am too much ..and is actually just for me and my impuls control ADHD to remind myself that I shouldnt message first to others alll the time ..I should let them text me too..
More patience with others ..Im just a bit needy sometimes. Feel alone and scared to lose more friends and scared to have no friends when I'm fifty something and no girlfriend either

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Heey here in Holland we have money to support people with problems so you don't have to work if you can't ...
I heard thats way worse in your country ..

I get around a 1000 euro and I pay around 450 for my little home for my house near the city park its a small town. We also have special houses we people for people with less houses ..

The poem starts with sometimes I am too much ..and is actually just for me and my impuls control ADHD to remind myself that I shouldnt message first to others alll the time ..I should let them text me too..
More patience with others ..Im just a bit needy sometimes. Feel alone and scared to lose more friends and scared to have no friends when I'm fifty something and no girlfriend either

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Special houses for people with less money like elderly young students and people pour like me with an 'uitkering'

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Heey here in Holland we have money to support people with problems so you don't have to work if you can't ...
I heard thats way worse in your country ..

I get around a 1000 euro and I pay around 450 for my little home for my house near the city park its a small town. We also have special houses we people for people with less houses ..

The poem starts with sometimes I am too much ..and is actually just for me and my impuls control ADHD to remind myself that I shouldnt message first to others alll the time ..I should let them text me too..
More patience with others ..Im just a bit needy sometimes. Feel alone and scared to lose more friends and scared to have no friends when I'm fifty something and no girlfriend either


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so many of us are scared. i have gotten rid of friends who were toxic. i think it is better to be alone than to have toxic friends. they pull you down.
How much control do you have? your benefit system seems to be so much better than ours. Really take advantage of it. Can you find more volunteer work that you like and possibly meet kind people? i could have married and came close a few times. They would have been a disaster.
you just need a few compassionate friends. Do you have a special interest and find a group to join?
Here fifty per cent of the people get divorced.
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here is one but there are others listed
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Hey

Yeah maybe it's better benefit system, but we can't travel out of the country, after six weeks we get cut of.

I like animals yes, but I work 4 days from 8 till 5 so I don't have time I guess.. also not sure if I am able..
Maybe when I am fifty.

I now have really nice friends, but they want to see me less than I want to see them, I have one close friend ..maybe this is enough together
Toxic friends I got rid of too but I really do need people so Im happy I got some

Yes a group.. I go to painting class with some hippies ..
I don't really feel like I belong at my work ..
The work itself is really what I want to do though.
I started an education this is maybe my way out!

Greetings laura

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