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Old 10-11-2007, 12:14 AM #1
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Smile Folic Acid could prevent alzheimers

http://www.google.com/search?num=100...cid+alzheimers

I now take 400mcg of folic acid(little pill,) 2 in the am 2 in the pm, jsut started taking fish oil capsules 1000mg enteric coated so no fish taste, magnesium twice a day and a muti vitamin and mineral, twice a day, I chew 500mg calcium chew twice a day. vitamin c chewables 500mg twice a day...it take a bit of getting used to taking them but am getting better.
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I will not give up in this weight loss journey, nor this need to be AF. 3-19-13=156, 6-7-13=139, 8-19-13=149, 11-12-13=140, 6-28-14=157, 7-24-14=149, 9-24-14=144, 1-12-15=164, 2-28-15=149, 4-21-15=143, 6-26-15=138.5, 7-22-15=146, 8-24-15=151, 9-15-15=145, 11-1-15=137, 11-29-15=143, 1-4-16=152, 1-26-16=144, 2-24-16=150, 8-15-16=163, 1-4-17=169, 9-20-17=174, 11-17-17=185.6, 3-22-18=167.9, 8-31-18= 176.3, 3-6-19=190.8 5-30-20=176, 1-4-21=202, 10-4-21= 200.8,12-10-21=186, 3-26-22=180.3, 7-30-22=188, 10-15-22=180.9,
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I now take 400mcg of folic acid(little pill,) 2 in the am 2 in the pm, jsut started taking fish oil capsules 1000mg enteric coated so no fish taste, magnesium twice a day and a multi vitamin and mineral, twice a day, I chew 500mg calcium chew twice a day. vitamin c chewables 500mg twice a day...it take a bit of getting used to taking them but am getting better.
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I take similiar to what you do. Except I forget and do it about three times a week. It is a lot of pills to swallow. I don't do the C chewables because they can be hard on the teeth. And I can't take too much extra calcium because it interferes with my Verapamil.

I take C (but should be taking much more like you do),
fish oil,
Flax Seed oil, and
muti B (birth control pill eats up Bs in the body),
zinc (in addition to what is in the
mineral and the
multi),
a seperate B12,
Glucosamine Sulfate (for knees and joints),
and CoQ10.
Magnesium helps with constipation caused by Verapamil.

I am expecting to see a study about CoQ10 helping with bipolar, or at least with depression.

When I skip days I sometimes try to take extra the next day but not usually. And I haven't yet gotten into doing them through out the day as is suggested with C and so forth the way that you do.

You are doing great. An inspiration.

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I forgot about b12...what kind you you take and are there reccomendations as to when to take it etc.
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oh and I only take the folic acid, one 400mcg twice a day not 2 of them....although the reccomended amount is 1000mcg to 2000mcg....with the amount in the multi vit...I am getting 1600...if I can do anything to help prevent dementia...I will take it! my memory is bad enough already!
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150mg of lamictal 2x a day
haldol 5mg 2x a day
1mg of cogentin 2x a day
klonipin , 1mg at night


I will not give up in this weight loss journey, nor this need to be AF. 3-19-13=156, 6-7-13=139, 8-19-13=149, 11-12-13=140, 6-28-14=157, 7-24-14=149, 9-24-14=144, 1-12-15=164, 2-28-15=149, 4-21-15=143, 6-26-15=138.5, 7-22-15=146, 8-24-15=151, 9-15-15=145, 11-1-15=137, 11-29-15=143, 1-4-16=152, 1-26-16=144, 2-24-16=150, 8-15-16=163, 1-4-17=169, 9-20-17=174, 11-17-17=185.6, 3-22-18=167.9, 8-31-18= 176.3, 3-6-19=190.8 5-30-20=176, 1-4-21=202, 10-4-21= 200.8,12-10-21=186, 3-26-22=180.3, 7-30-22=188, 10-15-22=180.9,
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Anyone know of any vitamins to speed up healing?


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Zinc 240mg...the pharmacist will have to order it for you and vit c 1000mg, and folic acid and high protein intake like 20 -30grams each meal,
and don't even think about dieting right now, you need high calorie nutricious meals and don't forget about a good multi vit...I get mine from walmart, one source brand.
Maybe you could PM mrs. doubtfire she was always up on the nutritional aspect of things.????
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Malnutrition disturbs wound healing
Nutrient-specific effects on wound healing
Patient must ingest a sufficient
amount of calories because the
chemical reactions during
wound healing are very
energy-intensive.

Especially the following nutritional elements are important for the wound-healing process:

Proteins:
If not enough proteins and amino acids are supplied, protein synthesis and thus the proliferation of cells of granulation tissue are interrupted. The function of the immune defense cells is also limited. Protein deficiency impairs all wound-healing processes.
Vitamins:
Even the deficiency of only one single vitamin can delay healing. B complex vitamins take part e.g. in collagen synthesis and stimulate antibody formation and infection defense. Antioxidants such as vitamin E and vitamin C absorb so-called free radicals which are toxic for the epithelial cells. Vitamin A takes effect during collagen synthesis and cross-linking. Vitamin C is also important during the synthesis of collagen as well as of intercellular substance, basal membranes of vessels, complement factors, and gamma globulins.
Minerals:
Among minerals, particularly zinc and iron deficiencies cause disruptions. Zinc is a central component of so-called metalloenzymes with significant biological effects in the organism and therefore it plays a decisive role in wound healing. Iron deficiencies cause anemia, thus reducing oxygen transport into the wound area.
Calories:
The chemical reactions during wound healing are very energy-intensive. If there are not enough carbohydrates available for energy production, a conversion to catabolic metabolism occurs. The body's own high-quality muscle proteins are catabolized for the production of energy by means of the gluconeogenesis mechanism. Even after a short period of bed rest (1 to 2 weeks), this leads to severe protein deficiency and amyotrophia.
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150mg of lamictal 2x a day
haldol 5mg 2x a day
1mg of cogentin 2x a day
klonipin , 1mg at night


I will not give up in this weight loss journey, nor this need to be AF. 3-19-13=156, 6-7-13=139, 8-19-13=149, 11-12-13=140, 6-28-14=157, 7-24-14=149, 9-24-14=144, 1-12-15=164, 2-28-15=149, 4-21-15=143, 6-26-15=138.5, 7-22-15=146, 8-24-15=151, 9-15-15=145, 11-1-15=137, 11-29-15=143, 1-4-16=152, 1-26-16=144, 2-24-16=150, 8-15-16=163, 1-4-17=169, 9-20-17=174, 11-17-17=185.6, 3-22-18=167.9, 8-31-18= 176.3, 3-6-19=190.8 5-30-20=176, 1-4-21=202, 10-4-21= 200.8,12-10-21=186, 3-26-22=180.3, 7-30-22=188, 10-15-22=180.9,
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Thanks, I always do take a B-12, E, and a Cholestrol Free multi, since my cholestrol is a bit high.

I will make sure I get the other ones too.

What about any foods?


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Nikko, if you do end up getting the zinc make sure you take it after eating a meal...can be hard on your stomach!
Think colorful fresh fruits and veggies, spinach, brocolli, califlower family etc.
salmon if you like it is very good for you.
Also talk with your physician about the extra supplements before taking them, call and ask his/her nurse first off!
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haldol 5mg 2x a day
1mg of cogentin 2x a day
klonipin , 1mg at night


I will not give up in this weight loss journey, nor this need to be AF. 3-19-13=156, 6-7-13=139, 8-19-13=149, 11-12-13=140, 6-28-14=157, 7-24-14=149, 9-24-14=144, 1-12-15=164, 2-28-15=149, 4-21-15=143, 6-26-15=138.5, 7-22-15=146, 8-24-15=151, 9-15-15=145, 11-1-15=137, 11-29-15=143, 1-4-16=152, 1-26-16=144, 2-24-16=150, 8-15-16=163, 1-4-17=169, 9-20-17=174, 11-17-17=185.6, 3-22-18=167.9, 8-31-18= 176.3, 3-6-19=190.8 5-30-20=176, 1-4-21=202, 10-4-21= 200.8,12-10-21=186, 3-26-22=180.3, 7-30-22=188, 10-15-22=180.9,
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I love veggies and fruit so that's a plus.

I am just so tired, well It's only been 48 hrs since the surgery so I guess that to is to be expected, plus not getting comfortable enough to get some real sleep through the night, isn't helping. It's because of my arm/shoulder, it will get better.

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I'm taking 1600 mg folic acid a day Bizi, 800 mg twice a day. My pdoc said it might help my memory loss after the treatments and also be a natural way to curb depression. Still waiting for the miracle though. I hope it works for you.
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Lightbulb regarding zinc....

That 220mg zinc sulfate is really hard to take. This is the typical product doctors use in nursing homes. It is brutal, and really causes alot of vomiting.

The best zinc for bipolars would be zinc monomethionine. This is called OptiZinc and made by Source Naturals. www.iherb.com has it very reasonably in price.

Zinc picolinate is also easier to tolerate, but picolinic acid has some negative effects in bipolars so I would not recommend it here for this board. For others, yes.

Make sure your magnesium is NOT oxide form. This is very poorly absorbed and basically useless. You can learn more about that on my magnesium thread at the vitamin forum.
And remember too, elemental vs combined salt weight on your labels.
For example the 220mg zinc sulfate is NOT 220mg of ZINC. It is much less.

At my CE seminar last week, they recommended some vitamin E to prevent Alzheimer's. Up to 400 IU of d-alpha tocopherol (not the dl-form) was listed most recently.

Folic acid also works against depression. It is always a good idea to take it as a supplement, since much of it is destroyed in cooking. Do not exceed 800mcg per day without knowing your B12 status. B12 deficiency and too high folate lead to nerve damage.
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