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waves 11-21-2007 03:12 PM

Dear Mari
 
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Originally Posted by Mari (Post 168717)
This is some powerful stuff and probably important. You are improving your future by doing this work.

definitely. its ripping me up meantime, but i sort of expected that. i basically set up with my pdoc to focus on these issues after my job thing went kerplatt. and therapy is a job in itself so might as well do it while i'm unemployed.

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in my early forties I returned to therapy and found the same issues. I thought that we had gotten through them once and for all years ago!
I think that the new tdoc said that we climb up and around a mountain as we get older and learn about our selves. Then we can look down and see the same darn issues but from a different perspective. Something like that. It made sense when she said it.
the new tdoc sounds like a former tdoc of mine - she said that as we grow, we naturally see our issues from a different place, and have to deal with them at that level, where before, that was not possible.

however these are issues that are more abstract and deeper than i have even dealt with before. it's actually new work. but they probably underpin a lot of event-related crises and chronic issues i have, or have had, and which in many cases have triggered or escalated transient reactions to major mood episodes...

i still question if i am really bipolar or if there is just a lot of psych stuff boiling. one of my songs describes me as a storming sea. either way, its a chemical broth in the end, but like you said getting a grip on these things might ehhh... calm the ~ waves ~ lol.

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Be stuck for now. You'll find your way.
When I haven't been able to get answers to my questions, I stop asking and simply affirm what I do know: This is me. This is what I do well. This is what I want in my future. This is how I see myself.
i like these suggestions. i have never "accepted" the daily affirmations thing, because many examples of "affirmations" i feel as aspirations, i.e. unreal at the time. contrarily, your examples are quite grounding. i would have to skip the future one. mine would be: "I don't know what i want in my future." (to avoid saying, "I don't know if I want a future.")

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Have you done the exercise when you move ahead to 85+ years old and look around the room you are in. What do you hope to see?
this is not a right now thing for me to do. i am afraid to live until that age as i am terrified i will be homeless and starving. better not to dwell on those thoughts. will save for better days.

Thank you Mari for all your thoughts and your "ramblings" as you call them are helpful. :hug:

~ waves ~

waves 11-21-2007 03:19 PM

Mari another haphazard post
 
Dear Mari,
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Originally Posted by Mari (Post 166939)
Well, you remember what Ann Launders (Dear Abby?) used to say about going to school later/late-ish in life: you are going to be 50 anyway. Or something like that.

i totally loved this. :D

Mari 11-22-2007 03:02 AM

Dear Waves,

You are right about Therapy being a job in itself. It can take up brain space and real time.

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Originally Posted by waves (Post 169885)
however these are issues that are more abstract and deeper than i have even dealt with before. it's actually new work.

Well my issues are almost always about my parents. I keep hoping to get past that someday because I am getting bored. Seriously. I feel like I should be over this by now. And it doesn't make interesting conversation either. -- not like something good that I could write a book or screenplay about someday. Too mundane and boring.


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i still question if i am really bipolar or if there is just a lot of psych stuff boiling. one of my songs describes me as a storming sea.
Is this one reason that you are so clued in on the DSM stuff? Have you been studying it to see where you are?
I would find this hard -- to not know the general dx/s.

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i would have to skip the future one. mine would be: "I don't know what i want in my future." (to avoid saying, "I don't know if I want a future.")
Would you be able to say something along the lines of how you want "peace" in your future? I learned/was reminded of this one by my sister the other day when I freaked out on the phone to her about something having to do with my intentions/wants.

BTW, after all this therapy do you find that you can put a pin on certain people you meet in your day to day?

I have become good at creating an entire parental background for people I work with simply by watching them interact with authority figures, deadlines, pressure, money, . . . . Later details often confirm that I am usually right. This is a skill I wish I did not have. I gained it by spending lots of time in therapy and thinking about therapy and spending money on therapy and buying books. . . . .

I could have moved to the beach and become a poet or tattoo artist instead.

Mari

Mrs. Bear 11-23-2007 11:37 AM

Oh I truly miss you when you are gone.

I am so glad when you pop in to say hello!!


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