advertisement
 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-07-2008, 03:25 PM #21
mrsD's Avatar
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
mrsD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
Lightbulb yes...

current estimates of sociopathy/psychopathy is 1 in 25. or 4 in 100 persons.

Narcissists differ from sociopaths slightly. Narcissists may have a conscience.
or what resembles one.

However most sociopaths are narcissists too. They share the trait of not having empathy, but all sociopaths lack conscience and remorse. There have been studies done with PET brain scans and sociopathy.
Sociopaths do not react the same way to emotional words like love, hug, cry.
Normals light up differently to emotional words.
Sociopaths and normals light up the same way for book, door, etc.
So new thought is that empathy cannot be learned. Narcissists and sociopaths do learn how to MIMIC feelings and they do this to con you. They are very good mimics and actors, but in the end, they are usually found out.
It is best to understand them, so you don't get really deeply hurt. Both sociopaths and narcissists do not feel love the same way as normals, if at all.

There is a very good book (I know I read alot) about this subject:
The Sociopath Next Door.
http://www.bookbrowse.com/reviews/in...ok_number=1530
Gives very chilling examples.

The word sociopath brings to mind criminals. A certain number of sociopaths become either white collar or violent offenders. But many are neighbors, coworkers, friends. These are the ones who steal other wives/husbands from their friends, make up stories about people/gossip bully etc. There are many types and degrees. Just like the label Bipolar is misused, so is the word sociopath.
__________________
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.-- Galileo Galilei

************************************

.
Weezie looking at petunias 8.25.2017


****************************
These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.
mrsD is offline  
"Thanks for this!" says:
bizi (01-07-2008), BJ (01-07-2008), waves (01-08-2008)

advertisement
Old 01-07-2008, 07:01 PM #22
BJ's Avatar
BJ BJ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,194
15 yr Member
BJ BJ is offline
Senior Member
BJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,194
15 yr Member
Default

I don't know what she is or what she's become but I'm so upset about this.

I made a big mistake. I'm trying to figure out what has happened so I went to the forum and posted just that some have deleted me and I don't know why. What have I done? I titled it "I need to say something".

That's all I said and this is the reply I got......

Doh, BJ!You all know just what a bad taste messages like this leave in everyone's mouths! You know these bombshells just drop like unleavened bread.... Well, I can't think of anything clever.... and I'm so far away.... Anyway...

If you're hoping to get any responses to this, this one is probably the only one you'll get, because except on TBR when we were pushed to the limits.... nobody in his right mind replies to stuff like this! Just wanted to say that to you....

And the next reply was "Don't reply to this".

I know it was stupid of me but I'm just looking to see what went wrong. How could one day everything be fine and the next I'm turning my back so go away? I can't shut off friendships like a faucet. I wrote a long PM to her thinking I could contact her that way but after I saw this I didn't bother.

I just don't know what I've done.
__________________

.

.


.


.



Cats nap, only humans put them "to sleep". Sterilize, don't euthanize!!


BJ
BJ is offline  
Old 01-07-2008, 07:06 PM #23
bizi's Avatar
bizi bizi is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: cajun country, lafayette Louisiana
Posts: 24,238
15 yr Member
bizi bizi is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
bizi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: cajun country, lafayette Louisiana
Posts: 24,238
15 yr Member
Unhappy

I am sorry that they continue to be cruel to you.
Please delete this site from your favorites and have nothing to do with them...they are not healthy for you.
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi
__________________

.
Hattie the black and white one wrestling with hazel, calico. lost hattie to cancer.....
Happiness is a decision....

150mg of lamictal 2x a day
haldol 5mg 2x a day
1mg of cogentin 2x a day
klonipin , 1mg at night


I will not give up in this weight loss journey, nor this need to be AF. 3-19-13=156, 6-7-13=139, 8-19-13=149, 11-12-13=140, 6-28-14=157, 7-24-14=149, 9-24-14=144, 1-12-15=164, 2-28-15=149, 4-21-15=143, 6-26-15=138.5, 7-22-15=146, 8-24-15=151, 9-15-15=145, 11-1-15=137, 11-29-15=143, 1-4-16=152, 1-26-16=144, 2-24-16=150, 8-15-16=163, 1-4-17=169, 9-20-17=174, 11-17-17=185.6, 3-22-18=167.9, 8-31-18= 176.3, 3-6-19=190.8 5-30-20=176, 1-4-21=202, 10-4-21= 200.8,12-10-21=186, 3-26-22=180.3, 7-30-22=188, 10-15-22=180.9,
bizi is offline  
"Thanks for this!" says:
BJ (01-08-2008), waves (01-08-2008)
Old 01-08-2008, 02:05 AM #24
Mari's Avatar
Mari Mari is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 18,914
15 yr Member
Mari Mari is offline
Legendary
Mari's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 18,914
15 yr Member
Default

Dear BP?

Quote:
I just don't know what I've done.
Please trust that you have done everything right.
For some incomprehensible reason, she stopped being nice to you and is unwilling to talk about it.

I'm sorry that you are dealing with this breakup.
It sounds like you are hurting and grieving.

Mari
Mari is offline  
"Thanks for this!" says:
BJ (01-08-2008), waves (01-08-2008)
Old 01-08-2008, 05:43 AM #25
BJ's Avatar
BJ BJ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,194
15 yr Member
BJ BJ is offline
Senior Member
BJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,194
15 yr Member
Default

Well I don't have to worry about going to that forum anymore because I can't. I just tried to go there and send her a PM and they've banned me. I guess it's truly over now. I was trying to write something to her about my feelings and wanted to send it to her but couldn't think straight. I found this poem that says it all nicely and I was going to PM it to her....

Losing a Piece of My Soul

I came to you the hour I was in pain
Looking for answers, I cried to you in vain.

I shared the many skeletons hiding in my heart,
I knew then you'd be my friend,
I knew it from the start.

Troubles ran like rivers, flowing through my life,
You picked the pieces up and help me through my strife.

When home wasn't home to me no more,
You opened up your heart, and opened up the door.

We cried into night until the early morn.
We solaced each other's pain and shared our many thorns.

As time flew, the air grew thick,
I saw our friendship fading, and my heart grew sick.

The day had arrived,
When it was time to say goodbye.

Now I sit alone,
reminiscing the past I'd blown.

I have to try to sleep now. It's 5:30AM and I haven't slept a wink and I have an interview at 9AM. I'm a nervous wreck and hope I can pull it off and not feel so blah about myself (for lack of a better word).
__________________

.

.


.


.



Cats nap, only humans put them "to sleep". Sterilize, don't euthanize!!


BJ
BJ is offline  
Old 01-08-2008, 07:04 AM #26
Alffe's Avatar
Alffe Alffe is offline
Young Senior Elder Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,298
15 yr Member
Alffe Alffe is offline
Young Senior Elder Member
Alffe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,298
15 yr Member
Heart

Good luck on the job interview BJ.
__________________

.
Alffe is offline  
"Thanks for this!" says:
BJ (01-08-2008)
Old 01-08-2008, 07:15 AM #27
Mari's Avatar
Mari Mari is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 18,914
15 yr Member
Mari Mari is offline
Legendary
Mari's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 18,914
15 yr Member
Default

Dear BP,
That's a powerful poem.

I hope you slept a little and that you do well in the interview.

Mari
Mari is offline  
"Thanks for this!" says:
BJ (01-08-2008)
Old 01-08-2008, 08:32 AM #28
BJ's Avatar
BJ BJ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,194
15 yr Member
BJ BJ is offline
Senior Member
BJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,194
15 yr Member
Default

Thanks for the good lucks. I gave up on trying to sleep. I just took a Klonopin to help calm me down before I get in there. I just need to let all this hurt go and try to land this job. Then I'm having this darn VNS turned on again. I'm not coughing and hacking as bad as I was but I'm still congested. She wanted to turn it back on yesterday but I begged her not to because I'm afraid the interviewer will hear it.

I hope you feel better soon Alffe and also you Curious
__________________

.

.


.


.



Cats nap, only humans put them "to sleep". Sterilize, don't euthanize!!


BJ
BJ is offline  
Old 01-08-2008, 08:52 AM #29
Mari's Avatar
Mari Mari is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 18,914
15 yr Member
Mari Mari is offline
Legendary
Mari's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 18,914
15 yr Member
Default

Hi,
You can hear those things?
Wow.
Let us know how the interview goes.

Mari
Mari is offline  
"Thanks for this!" says:
BJ (01-10-2008)
Old 01-08-2008, 09:52 AM #30
mrsD's Avatar
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
mrsD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
Lightbulb when you get back from the interview..

I hope you take a nap, and get some rest.

I have found that when I am upset/hurt, or confused, I try to think and reframe the experience.

In this case, think about how you would feel if you just missed getting hit by a truck, either in your car or stepping off the curb. At the last moment, you missed the accident. Your heart may be pounding, you may be sweating, but you are safe.

Well, emotional/psychological disappointments can be like that too. In this case you just missed being hit by a CRUEL/Narcissistic truck. So while you have the physiological effects from the hurt... you are safe really now. The neurotransmitters are pumping away, but have no place to go for now. They will diminish and you will feel better with time.

If you want to read about others who have been hurt/abused psychologically, there is a website by Dr. Irene. It is quite interesting.
Just Google her, and you will see.

I hope you are feeling better, as time passes. Give time a chance.
__________________
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.-- Galileo Galilei

************************************

.
Weezie looking at petunias 8.25.2017


****************************
These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.
mrsD is offline  
"Thanks for this!" says:
BJ (01-10-2008), waves (01-08-2008)
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dear Santa.... watsonsh Social Chat 8 12-16-2007 02:55 PM
Jane back in Stephen Hawking's universe BobbyB ALS News & Research 0 06-13-2007 08:12 AM
Dear John Letter befuddled2 Bipolar Disorder 33 05-23-2007 11:46 AM
Dear Mom BJ Coping with Grief & Loss 5 04-25-2007 06:42 PM
Dear Jingle Alffe Survivors of Suicide 10 03-27-2007 01:03 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:48 PM.

Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.7.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.