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fiberowendy2000 02-05-2008 09:17 AM

Thank you Vowel Lady!
I have a funny feeling that she is going to be in the ward for quite a bit longer that most people realize. There are all sorts of predictions out there. I feel that the longer she is in there the better it will be. That way if drugs are the issue, they will detox her; if she has a severe mental disorder she will get the help that she needs.
At least now, she will be forced to take her meds. I read she was trying to avoid doing that and now that the 2 week status has been approved they can force her to take her meds.

I just wish the photogs and gossip hounds would leave the hospital alone and let them do their job.

Mari 02-05-2008 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by fiberowendy2000 (Post 207210)
Thank you Vowel Lady!
I have a funny feeling that she is going to be in the ward for quite a bit longer that most people realize. There are all sorts of predictions out there. I feel that the longer she is in there the better it will be. That way if drugs are the issue, they will detox her; if she has a severe mental disorder she will get the help that she needs.
At least now, she will be forced to take her meds. I read she was trying to avoid doing that and now that the 2 week status has been approved they can force her to take her meds.

I just wish the photogs and gossip hounds would leave the hospital alone and let them do their job.

Hi,

Forced!?
That is distrurbing to contemplate for patients and patients' rights groups.
Does anyone know the laws of California regarding this?

Mari

mymorgy 02-05-2008 02:05 PM

i read that too about the law if the person might hurt themselves
Bobby

bizi 02-05-2008 08:41 PM

Spear's manager is accused of drugging her....
 
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

LOS ANGELES (AP) - A restraining order aimed at Britney Spears' sometimes manager Sam Lutfi alleges that he took over her life and finances, drugged her and controlled the paparazzi who pursued her for months.

The order, based on a lengthy declaration from Spears' mother, Lynne, says that Spears met Lutfi in October 2007 and "Mr. Lutfi has essentially moved into Britney's home and has purported to take control of her life, home and finances."
The documents released by the court Tuesday ordered him to stay away from her and stop harassing. In a section of the order that detailed previous harassment, Lynne Spears said "Mr. Lutfi drugged Britney, he has cut Britney's home phone lines and removed her cell phone chargers. He yells at her. He claims to control everything—Britney's business manager, her attorneys and the security guards at the gate."
Spears' father has been granted control of her finances until Valentine's Day by a judge who also barred the troubled pop star from contacting Lutfi.
Superior Court Commissioner Reva Goetz also appointed a physician Monday to evaluate whether Spears, who is in a psychiatric ward, is competent to make decisions.
Her father, James Spears, and an attorney were granted conservatorship last week after the 26-year-old was hospitalized for the second time in two months following increasingly bizarre behavior.
The commissioner extended that conservatorship until Feb. 14. It allows Spears' father, and attorney Andrew Wallet, to make decisions involving the singer's assets and even who enters her home.
The commissioner also tried to further distance Spears from Lutfi, who sometimes spoke on her behalf and had been seen escorting her about town.
Spears was ordered to have no contact with him by phone, texting, or any other means. The commissioner extended a restraining order against Lutfi that was issued last week, although court spokesman Allan Parachini said the original order had not yet been served.

Mari 02-06-2008 02:57 AM


Hello,
I think that hospitals in California need to get a court order (usually?) in order to force meds on a patient on a 14 day hold:

http://www.mhac.org/help/hotlines.cfm
Quote:

Does the Person Being Held Involuntarily Have Any Rights?
Yes. A mental health patient being held involuntarily must be informed of the following rights in a language or manner he/she can understand:

-To keep and use his/her own personal possessions including toilet articles and clothing;
-To keep and be allowed to spend a reasonable sum of his/her own money (a conservator shall be appointed as required);
-To have access to individual storage space for private use;
-To see visitors each day;
-To have reasonable access to telephones;
-To have ready access to letter writing materials, including stamps & mail;
-To receive unopened mail;
-To refuse convulsive treatment;
-To refuse psychosurgery;
-To see a patients' rights advocate;
-To be assisted by an attorney at the certification review hearing.
-In addition, the patient has the right to be informed fully of the risks and benefits of the proposed treatment and give his/her informed consent. . .

. . . A patient has the right to refuse medication unless there is an emergency condition or the patient is found to lack capacity to make an informed decision after a judicial hearing. . . .
The trick seems to be whether the patient is capable of "informed consent." As you see, I'm still trying to figure this out. I don't know anyone in California.

Mari

fiberowendy2000 02-08-2008 03:12 PM

Well I guess the point is now moot since she is out and about!:eek:

Pamster 02-08-2008 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fiberowendy2000 (Post 210754)
Well I guess the point is now moot since she is out and about!:eek:

Wow. I am stunned that she's out already. All we can do is hope that she's going to continue to seek out treatment on her own accord, I know I did and many of you have right? I mean I can remember what it was like before, and I did want people to control things because I felt no confidence in my decision making abilities. That is probably what's up with her, and racing thoughts, oh man that was so hard to live with, once I tried medication and that WENT AWAY I for the first time in my life felt normal! :cool:

I might be one who needs meds for the remainder of my life and that's just fine with me. I just wish I could get a message to Brit, tell her it's okay to be in pain, but that mental illness happens to many people and hers could definitely have been brought on by two babies being born too close to each other, I always wondered about that when they said she was pregnant again. :(


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