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wouldn't seem that insurance companies get involved and order a more detailed review of the evidence?
Bobby

The Illegal Drugs Police Industry

I am sorry that Keith Ledger overdosed. However, he is another casualty of the drug wars. The criminalization of drugs has ruined medicine and created jobs worth hundreds of billions of dollars for criminals and cops. Virtually every crime committed involves illegal drugs, as finance, facilitation, cause, or purpose. If narcotics weren't treated like radioactive plutonium, perhaps the drug industry would have invented by now an easy-to-use contra drug for people who overdose. At least there would be more information out there about the effects of mixing controlled substances. Believe it or not, what they are trying to develop is a narcotic analgesic that blocks the pain but isn't "fun". This despite the fact that changing the perspective of the patient is one of the reasons that narcotics work for pain. The development of the entire NSaid class of drugs was sparked by the interest of Big Pharma in providing doctors with an analgesic that they could prescribe for pain that was not a narcotic. Their analgesic action is vastly inferior but, hey, they aren't narcotics.

Cordially,

Wow. Thanks, Highthatsize. I was on the look out for this story.

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Originally Posted by highhatsize (Post 212400)

Believe it or not, what they are trying to develop is a narcotic analgesic that blocks the pain but isn't "fun". This despite the fact that changing the perspective of the patient is one of the reasons that narcotics work for pain.

Greetings,
Highhatsize, you are right.
Up To the Minute on CBS just ran a story close to what you are talking about.
Mari

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...e=search_story

Relieving Pain With Abuse-Proof Drugs
Doctors Turning To New Painkillers That Don't Cause Addiction
NEW YORK, Feb. 20, 2008

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Up to 25 percent of chronic pain patients abuse medication at some point. So companies are developing new formulations that can't be crushed, chewed, snorted or injected.

"It has the content of a viscous gel," said Dr. Lynn Webster.

One new drug being tested is Remoxy, a form of OxyContin. It's too soft to be crushed. Another drug, Embeda, is a pill version of morphine. If crushed, snorted or injected, it releases a chemical that blocks the effect of the narcotic.

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"I suspect over a period of time if these new formulations are as effective and safe as we think that they'll probably replace most other medications out there," Webster said.

These drugs are in the final stages of testing and are waiting to be approved by the FDA.

I still haven't heard why he was on the two pain pills. Has anyone heard on this?

Ada

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Originally Posted by dreambeliever128 (Post 220377)

I still haven't heard why he was on the two pain pills. Has anyone heard on this?

Ada

Nope nothing Ada. :(

BUSHWA! (A Euphemism)

Dear Mari,

"Up to 25 percent of chronic pain patients abuse medication at some point."

This satement is so qualified as to be inane. On first glance, it seems to say that 25% of people using narcotic medication are abusing them. However, on closer look it says nothing substantive. I'll bet it was written by a BIG PHARMA flack.

By the way, how many millions of dollars are we spending to develop another less useful analgesic? Couldn't this money be better spent on potentiating the ones we have so that NO pain is outside the reach of analgesia?

Once this new combination is perfected, (I use the word loosely. I predict that the product will be "somewhat less effective" than the unbuffered narcotic that it replaces. However, the "authorities" will decide that a little more pain for those in chronic pain is a small price to pay in the WAR ON DRUGS.), BIG PHARMA will make a fortune. Their lobbyists will pay the legislators to make the formulation mandatory and BIG PHARMA will have two decades of patent protected profits.

It's a win-win situation. Well, except for the people in chronic pain. But some personal sacrifice in necessary if the WAR ON DRUGS is to carry on.

Cordially,

abuse proof is a goal

but often whatever trick is used, people find a way to bypass it.

I think the Heath Ledger tragedy is not about illegal abuse or diversion.

It is about the misconception people have that drugs given by RX by a doctor and filled by a pharmacy are SAFER than street drugs. They are only safer in that the dose is accurate, and the drug has proven therapeutic benefits.
But prescription drugs kill people every day.

Mr. Ledger mixed too many at one time and resulted in respiratory depression.

Dear mrsd,

It does seem most likely that Keith Ledger died as a result of his ignorance of the danger of combining prescription drugs, especially narcotics. I would argue that his ignorance was due to opprobrium that attends their usage EVEN when prescribed. Had he been as well informed about narcotics as he was about sexual hygiene, (a hurdle that the schools have finally made, despite a strong community aversion to talking about it), he would still be alive.

As long the authorities spend all their money on propaganda equating narcotics with the plague, moral turpitude, and criminal degeneracy instead of educating people objectively about this class of drugs, there will be thousands of more ignorant Keith Ledgers.

Cordially,
highhatsize