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Old 06-23-2008, 01:13 AM #11
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Hi,
Thanks for the support.
And I do feel better eating this way.
I'm doing this with weight watchers both in meetings and on line.


Fuhurman allows but discourages the use of soy and grain products.

His big thing is to eat tons of raw veggies and lots of greens . . . .the very things that are generally missing from the Standard American Diet.

Regarding protien:
He points out that per calorie, broccoli has double the protein that steak has (steak's calories are in fat). . . same as spinach and so on.

He says in his book that his diet supplies 40-70 grams of protein daily on a 1200-1800 calorie diet.

He has lots and lots of research and he explains about how calcium from plant foods is more easily absorbed by the body than calcium from animals. He also explains that protein combining does not have to happen at the same meal -- it happens over the course of the day.

Also, I have common sense and if it stops working for me I know to make adjustments. I appreciate your checking up on me.

M.

Edited to add:
He does recommend taking vit B12, vit D, and a good multi.

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Wink here is a good reference for you:

This is a really good reference to show exactly what foods
contain:

Example: Broccoli:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/v...roducts/2357/2

This is for a cup of hard boiled egg:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/d...products/117/2

beans:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/v...roducts/2325/2

This resource is very helpful to learn which foods have which amino acids in them.

My favorite is Edamame beans (this is soy, which I don't understand your diet's restriction on)
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/v...roducts/9873/2

When I get back in September, I'll look your history up to see how you are doing!
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Best of luck with the new diet Mari, I know I feel better after changing the way we eat. I need to start juicing more again but it's kind of a pain to wash up the juicer. I hope you continue to feel good and that you lose weight so you feel healthier. As far as I am concerned it's all about how you feel, and from the sound of it you are feeling better, so that's a good thing!

Have a nice trip MrsD! And thanks for all the informative links, your posts are always so enlightening.
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Dear Mrsd,
Those charts are so cool.
They even provide the inflammation factor -- something I have begun learning about.
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Dear Pamster,

Your talk of exercise and being careful / mindful about diet inspired me.

My sister has a Magic Bullet. (Her husband saw it advertised on TV and decided he wanted one.) When I visited two years ago, I thought it was the coolest thing. It is handier than the juicer that we have. She uses it to make breakfast smoothies for him.
(I just looked up the price! Nevermind.)

Before I moved into this apt I got rid of a crappy juicer because I wasn't using it and hubby didn't like it. Well, it was difficult to use anyway.
Then about 6 months ago hubby had a kind of hypomanic moment (he gets these -- I don't know how else to describe them) and bought a big juicer at Sams that is too much trouble. He has used it about 5 times. Meanwhile it sits and takes up a lot of space on the counter top.


I wish that the juicers were self-cleaning, or at least easy to wash via dishwasher. As it is, cutting up the veggies/ fruit already is a hassle.

. . . 'don't know why I am complaining I'm just wishing it were easier to deal with those machines. Maybe you found a way that works and you can share some secrets.


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Wow!
I jsut watched the coolest movie.
Crazy sezy cancer by kris carr
It was great.
She talked about a whole foods diet....I watched her use a juicer it was amazing....
she said that wheat grass has a lot of protein in it!
She also uses a lot of avacados, and coconut milk
Stevia as a sweetener.
No meat products at all.
Are you juicing?
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90% whole foods 10% cooked....
wow!http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm#table3

Protein for a vegan diet is the above link.
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Mari...wow that is interesting that you are doing this in conjunction w/ ww. The program does allow for some flexibility...esp. if you are willing to eat a lot of veggies (fiber).

Here is an interesting article (I think):
http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/n...src=RSS_PUBLIC

I read it fast...but I think it features a study about prudent eating. Folks who ate less meat (probably less red meat and fats), more veggies, less sugar...seem to have less heart disease and overall better health...will re-read later...but wanted to get it down! LOL!

Wishing you (and all of us really!) continued good luck with your good health/weight loss!
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I lost 40lbs about 2 years ago and have kept it off, by keeping a daily food diary, in which I keep track of digestion issues, medication issues, every meal and snack, exercise, and mood for the day. I try to look at it as a plan of being healthy for life. It also helps me see what foods affect my mood, or if I gain weight, what am I doing differently..I keep it in a binder and generally just track what is going on.

For instance, I was putting on a few pounds and I looked at what was different, and I noticed I had been guzzling lots of gatorade after exercise, and I realized gatorade is loaded with sugar, and calories, as much as sugary sodas. OR I am having anxiety, so I am eating because of that..

I did see a nutritionist about 2 times to get me started. I use the FDA Pyramid as a guide. Eating the recommended daily allowances of fruit and vegetables, at the recommended serving size. I felt like milk and dairy were causing me to gain, so I cut it out, except for yogurt, which is good bacteria for the stomach. My nutritionist had told me to avoid soy milk or soy in general, something about it can cause digestion issues for some peoples.

I generally eat the same fruits and vegetables every day, but I do have one cheat day. Less daily variety for me means, anything on cheat day will make me happy.

Just sticking to fruits and vegetables and chicken or fish. From what I gathered from the nutritionist, everything is about proper digestion and high fiber choices.

I eat stawberries, blueberries (berries are lower in sugar) and romaine with green peppers, broccoli, chicken or fish, and yogurt or sugar free things for snacks.

I do have a penchant for eating bad stuff at about 8pm, so I have tried to do cinammon raison english muffins, with peanut butter and maybe a few cookies, but not an entire box. I used to buy low fat cookies and such, but I realized just eating the reese cup, is less calories than eating a bunch of fat free grahmn crackers!!!

I do take 900 mg of seroquel, which can make you want to eat the entire house, and I take nothing for anxiety, which causes me to eat a bit more also. I am usually a "all or nothing" person, so I am just trying to learn balance.
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Dear Bizi,

Pam is the master juicer here.
I don't know much about it.
Occassionally hubby comes home with a whole bunch of carrots and juices up a storm.
I love avocados. I need to remember to buy some.


Dear Vowel Lady,


Thanks for the link.
Do you have to fight any cravings? I'm ok with sugar as long as I stay away from it. Sometimes I crave good bread.
Hubby is the cook in our household. He does a good job of the whole foods diet and low fat stuff. For example he makes lots of one dish means with lots of veggies and then some rice on the side. I've been skipping the rice lately.



Dear RoadRunner,


It's great to hear about someone who has been successfull!. . . especially on Seroquel!

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From what I gathered from the nutritionist, everything is about proper digestion and high fiber choices.
Sounds about right. This sounds like what my sister's nutritionist told her. It is good to hear it again.

Keeping a food diary works for me too -- when I do it.
Keeping any kind of diary works. Maybe I need to keep a sleep diary to fix my weird sleep patterns.


That English muffin snack sounds delicious!


We had another poster who gave himself a free day like you describe. I'm going to try to find the thread and bump it up.

Thanks for sharing your tips and your success.

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what can you put on the vegetables?
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