Curious

Kim just made a reply to my post about this on Latitudes and I think you will be especially interested in the info she has about the aluminum adjuvent in the vaccine

http://www.latitudes.org/forums/inde...=0&#entry14324

I think it's a great idea. A way to prevent cancer?! And STDs? isn't it like requiring any other vaccination for a communicable disease that could cause an epidemic?

i don't agree at all.

this is another vaccine thast they are using females as the testing grounds. will they pull it after they find out it has caused thousands of birth deffects? or how many have to suffer serious illness and side effects?

why is it they don't give a vaccine to young males? since they are the cause of the spread of the virus inthe first place. a vaccine so they are impotent and can't have sex until they are mature enough to use a condom. why not do the reaserch and come up with a vaccine to prevent the boys from getting and spreading the virus?

by making it mandetory that all these young girls have the vaccine, govenor perry is assuming that all these girls will become sexually active and not use protection.

in all of the studies i have found so far that state the 4000 deaths due to cervical cancer, not one has has sited any research as to how many of those deaths are due to the virus being the cause of the cancer. how many of those deaths were caused by the woman not getting a pap on a ruetine basis.

the media and Merck are using scare tactic to coerce parents into vaccinating their young daughters. they are giving the full truth so an informed choice can be made.

mollymcn....perhaps you havent read the links I posted on the DANGERS of the actual vaccine, and it's potential to cause neurological problems in these young girls


Curious, tho I know you posted about this "lobbyist" on page one
thought you would be interested in this that came in with one of my Health Newsletters today ( I have bolded FYI)

mollymcm, also if you listen to the commercial and read info it is not a guarantee that it will eliminate a young girl from getting cervical cancer. I still think it is still in the very premature stages, and no government should dictate that young girls get this vaccine, not knowing how it will effect their overall health including fertilization etc later in life. I agree it would be nice to have a "magic cure" against cervical cancer. I just don't belive that this is it, nor have they done a long enough long term studies. 17 deaths during trial to me is 17 too many, whether the vaccine maker says it is related to it or not. Like they are going to say that their vaccine (money maker) is going to possibly be fatal to anyone. I guess it just erks me to think that a governor or someone else thinks they have the right to tell us as parents that we have to immunize our daughters, to me that is just wrong! Way too much governmental control for me. All I know is my daughter WONT get this shot period!!!!

mine either....and I have had them vaccinated for everything else. Not this one~

really really needs the MONEY from this...It is losing patents, and paying
out Vioxx liability...One needs to look at the MOTIVES for forcing people into
an experimental vaccine.

And it is not only vaccines. Women were experimented upon with birth control pills. It began in Puerto Rico and moved to the States. I recall a pack of
BCs costing $1.89. This was cost(selling them for no profit) then... and many women died and were
permanently disabled from strokes!

I think forcing young girls to get this vaccine is just the pits.... totally!

Texas Gov. Merck $ Co. and Lobbyist orders anti-cancer vaccine

WHAT NEXT ???

Feb. 3, 2007, 3:34AM
Texas Gov. orders anti-cancer vaccine
By LIZ AUSTIN PETERSON Associated Press Writer © 2007 The Associated Press

AUSTIN, Texas — Some conservatives and parents' rights groups worry that requiring girls to get vaccinated against the sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer would condone premarital sex and interfere with the way they raise their children.

By using an executive order that bypassed the Legislature, Republican Gov. Rick Perry — himself a conservative — on Friday avoided such opposition, making Texas the first state to mandate that schoolgirls get vaccinated against the virus.

Beginning in September 2008, girls entering the sixth grade will have to receive Gardasil, Merck & Co.'s new vaccine against strains of the human papillomavirus, or HPV.

Perry also directed state health authorities to make the vaccine available free to girls 9 to 18 who are uninsured or whose insurance does not cover vaccines. In addition, he ordered that Medicaid offer Gardasil to women ages 19 to 21.

Read Full Article:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/4523513.html



Feb. 2, 2007, 7:18PM
Texas Orders Cancer Vaccine for Girls
By LIZ AUSTIN PETERSON Associated Press Writer © 2007 The Associated Press

AUSTIN, Texas — Merck & Co. stands to make billions of dollars should other states follow Texas' lead and require schoolgirls to receive its new anti-cancer vaccine. Supporters of the mandate say it would be a small price to pay to eradicate a dangerous sexually transmitted disease.

At issue is whether Gov. Rick Perry's order Friday requiring the vaccinations is driven by political cronyism and a hard-lobbying drug company's hunger for profits, or is simply good public policy.

About 10,000 American women will be diagnosed with cervical cancer this year, according to the American Cancer Society, and about one-third of them will die.

Texas lawmakers who support requiring the vaccine say Perry's order will spare some young girls from the same fate when they grow up.

Read Full Article
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4522664.html



GARDASIL®
[Quadrivalent Human Papillomavirus (Types 6, 11, 16, 18) Recombinant Vaccine]
http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...ardasil_pi.pdf


What are the ingredients in GARDASIL?

The main ingredients are purified inactive proteins that come from HPV Types 6, 11, 16, and 18.

It also contains amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate, sodium chloride, L-histidine, polysorbate 80, sodium borate, and water for injection.

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...rdasil_ppi.pdf

Each 0.5 mL dose contains approximately 20 µg of HPV 6 L1 protein, 40 µg of HPV 11 L1, 40 µg of HPV 16 L1, and 20 µg of HPV 18 L1; and approximately 225 µg of aluminum (as amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate adjuvant), 9.56 mg of sodium chloride, 0.78 mg of L-histidine, 50 µg of polysorbate 80 (Tween 80), 35 µg of sodium borate, and water for injection. The product contains no preservatives ...[truncated]

http://www.biopharma.com/cgi/full5.lasso?Key=170.1879

Products/Active Agents Index

http://www.biopharma.com/biol_terms5.html


I ask again, what next ???

I have studied human and animal TSEs for some time. I have also warned the public of the ramifications when you let big industry, govern over government and policy making. I understand that in some instances vaccines are an important tool in fighting deadly disease. ON the other hand, vaccines can harm you and or kill you if not tested properly over a long period of time. TO let MERCK and the Governor of TEXAS (By using an executive order that bypassed the Legislature) ORDER vaccines (any vaccine) on our children, is wrong. THE GOVERNOR STATES ;

> But he has said the cervical cancer vaccine is no different from the one that protects children against polio.

and i agree, lets just look at what happened to the polio vaccine blunder of long duration ;

From: TSS
Subject: VACCINE CONTAMINATION AT LIVERPOOL PLANT ONCE HOME OF THE MAD COW POLIO VACCINE BLUNDER
Date: October 8, 2004 at 12:15 pm PST

Drug Company Ailing After Vaccine Delay

By Andrew Pollack
10/08/04 10:44 AM PT

Vaccines accounted for about US$700 million of Chiron's $1.75 billion in revenue last year. Fluvirin, the flu vaccine, accounted for $219 million of the total. Chiron had increased spending in R&D and other areas of its business. Now the company may have to scale back its plans, and prospects for its future flu vaccine business are clouded.


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© 2004 International Herald Tribune. All rights reserved.
© 2004 ECT News Network. All rights reserved.
http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/...lay-37193.html

What was last week's polio BSE scare about?
An oral polio vaccine, Medeva, was recalled last week over fears of CJD. The vaccine, which had been used in up to a third of inoculations for children and travellers, contained tiny traces of a feoetal calf growth serum from potentially BSE-contaminated animals. However, the risks of infection from the vaccine were said to be "incalcuably small". The Department of Health said the firm, also Medeva, had misled them on assurances the vaccine met new BSE safety guidelines.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theissues/...343393,00.html

Earlier this year, according to an October, 2000 article by the The Observer, a leading British newspaper, British pharmaceutical company Medeva's Liverpool plant was found by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to be producing vaccines in filthy conditions. The FDA report found that Medeva neither maintained nor cleaned its equipment. It also reported that Medeva was unable to prove that its vaccines were not contaminated with bacteria or fungi.

Certain fungi provide the medium in which the prion protein crystal that causes bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE or “mad cow” disease) to proliferate.

Because it exports flu vaccine to America, Medeva got a U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) “warning” to clean up its act. However, in a report dated October 22, 2000, The Observer noted that the FDA had not re-inspected the filthy Medeva factory since it sent the warning letter earlier this year and has given the company the green light to sell an estimated 20,000,000 doses of its “Fluvarin” flu vaccine in the U.S. during this cold and flu season.

The British government recently recalled Medeva's oral polio vaccine (OPV) as it had been grown from “bovine material of UK origin” contrary to mandated vaccine production protocols. Until its removal from the marketplace last month, Medeva's OPV had been injected into 11 million people, mostly children, commented another British newspaper the International Herald Tribune.

Hundreds of thousands of “mad” cattle in Great Britain have been destroyed since 1993 in an attempt to control the spread of prion disease that is epidemic in England. Ingestion of beef and other products derived from prion-infected cattle have been linked to the epidemic of prion disease in humans.

Prion disease is called mad cow disease in cattle, scrapie in pigs and sheep, whirling disease in fish and wasting disease in deer and elk, is called Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD) in humans. It is estimated that as many as 200,000 Americans that have been misdiagnosed with Alzheimer's disease are actually victims of CJD.

The Medeva Fluvarin vaccine, produced in the same plant that produced the recalled OPV, may have the potential of opening the floodgates of a “mad cow” epidemic in the U.S. Though the administration of possibly contaminated Fluvarin may be a public health disaster of unprecedented proportions, the dominant media has failed to sound the alarm and the FDA has not ordered that Fluvarin be tested for the presence of prions or the fungi in which they grow.

Why?

FDA approval of the potentially contaminated Fluvarin for sale in the U.S. was likely influenced by a shortage of flu vaccine here this season. According to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) National Immunization Program Director Dr. William Atkinson, the A-Moscow-1099 strain of flu virus did not incubate properly this year and, therefore, did not produce “serum” in large enough quantities to produce sufficient doses of flu vaccine to meet demand. So, despite Medeva's “history of contamination and production blunders,” FDA has authorized the distribution of Fluvarin to clinics and hospitals all over the nation.

According to The Observer, the FDA claims that the vaccine is safe. The FDA also, at one time, claimed that silicone breast implants and Phen-Phen were “safe” -- and those are just two of many FDA-approved products that have ultimately been linked to serious health side-effects that include chronic degenerative disease and death.

“It stands to reason that Medeva's flu vaccine -- manufactured in the same reportedly filthy plant as the recalled polio vaccine -- could also contain BSE (prion)-contaminated materials,” commented Dr. Len Horowitz. Dr. Horowitz is the author of several books including “Healing Codes for the Biological Apocalypse” in which he meticulously documented the development and spread of prion disease world wide by following the path of published science.

An official at the National Institutes of Health describes the prion which causes BSE as, “The single most resistant organism on the face of the Earth. You can boil it, you can put it in formaldehyde, you can autoclave it for a little while, you can treat it with the usual disinfectants...and it's like you didn't do anything.”

If Fluvarin is contaminated with BSE, then millions of unsuspecting Americans may be injected this year with a terminal neurological disease. Prion crystals, 100 times smaller than a virus, cause lesions in brain tissue (encephalopathies) that turn the brain to mush and gradually causes dementia and death. British officials predict that hundreds of thousands of Brits will eventually show symptoms of this terminal malady.

CJD is so dangerous that medical examiners are afraid to perform autopsies on people and animals that are suspected as having succumbed to prion disease. Continental Europe, which originally considered itself safe from prion disease, is in a panic over recent discoveries that some of their animals and citizens are showing symptoms.

Fluvarin is currently on the shelves of doctors' offices and health departments all over the country and is being administered to the public. Medical personnel in the northwest U.S. who confirm that they have administered Fluvarin are unaware of the Medeva scandal or the likelihood that the triple-antigen flu vaccine is contaminated.

There are at least two facilities in the U.S. that are capable of testing Fluvarin for prion contamination: The National Prion Disease Pathology Surveillance Center in Cleveland, Ohio, and the National Institutes of Health in Maryland. Since neither the FDA nor the dominant media have demanded that Fluvarin be tested for contamination, anyone about to receive Fluvarin should demand the vaccine be properly tested.

Due to this year's flu vaccine shortage, the CDC urges health officials to prioritize the administration of flu vaccines. The CDC recommends that the most immunologically vulnerable members of society -- the elderly and the chronically ill; babies and small children -- be priority one. Healthcare workers exposed to flu victims are priority number two. Otherwise healthy people between the ages of 17-65 should be the last people to receive a flu shot.

If your health officials haven't heard about Medeva's track record, it's time to get them educated. You can copy for them a series of British media reports covering the Medeva scandals. The web address is:

http://www.observer.co.uk/

Go to “Information,” then “Archive,” then type “Medeva” in the keyword box. See especially the October 22 article “Revealed: full scale of vaccine blunders.”
http://proliberty.com/observer/20001208.htm

What measures have the FDA taken to ensure that people are not exposed to the BSE agent in vaccines?

It is believed that variant CJD was acquired from eating food products containing the BSE agent. However, FDA wants to minimize any chance that the BSE agent could be introduced into biologic products during manufacture. The Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER) is responsible for regulation of biologic products, including vaccines. In a 1991 letter to manufacturers CBER expressed concern about bovine sourced material. In December 1993 and May 1996 FDA issued letters advising that bovine derived materials from animals born in or residing in countries where BSE had occurred should not be used to manufacture FDA-regulated products intended for administration to humans. A 1993 Points to Consider document ("Points to Consider in the Characterization of Cell Lines Used for the Production of Biologics") stressed the importance of control of sourcing of bovine materials. On April 19, 2000, CBER issued a letter reminding manufacturers that the USDA list of BSE-countries had been expanded to include not only those countries where BSE was known to exist but also those where BSE may exist (FR, January 6, 1998). CBER strongly recommended "that manufacturers take whatever steps are necessary to assure that materials derived from all species of ruminant animals born, raised or slaughtered in countries where BSE is known to exist, or countries where the USDA has been unable to assure FDA that BSE does not exist, are not used in the manufacture of FDA-regulated products intended for administration to humans." Although Canada and the US have each reported one case of BSE and the USDA has placed Canada on the list of countries with BSE, FDA has not recommended that manufacturers find a new source for bovine derived materials obtained from these countries for use in manufacture of drugs or biological products. The FDA believes that the control measures in place assure the safety of bovine derived materials sourced from these countries and used in manufacture of vaccines.

Are bovine derived materials from North America used in the manufacture of vaccines?

Yes, bovine derived materials from North America, specifically the US and Canada, are used in vaccine manufacture. Since there has been extensive movement of live cows and cow-derived materials between Canada and the US it is difficult to establish that an animal has not been born, raised or slaughtered in Canada. Moreover, control measures, such as the ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban have been similar in the two countries. Therefore, FDA has not recommended that manufacturers using bovine derived material from Canada replace those materials with materials from countries not on the USDA list of countries that have BSE or are at risk
of BSE...

snip...
There is no evidence that any case of vCJD has resulted from use of a vaccine, and there is no evidence that any vaccines harbor the BSE agent...

snip...

If vaccines are safe why did the UK recall their polio vaccine?

The UK recalled the Evans/Medeva Oral Polio Vaccine in October, 2000. This vaccine has never been licensed for use in the US. The Medicines Control Agency (MCA) had requested and received assurances from drug companies that they were implementing guidance not to use UK-sourced bovine materials in the manufacture of injectable medicinal products. The recall was prompted by evidence that the Evans/Medeva vaccine was manufactured using fetal calf serum from the UK at a time when there was a risk of BSE in that country. This is in contravention of European Union guidelines. According to a statement from the Chief Medical Officer at the UK Dept. of Health (10.20.00) the company had assured the MCA of the UK that UK-sourced bovine materials were not used in the manufacture of the vaccine. However, these assurances were inaccurate, thus the vaccine was withdrawn. (www.dh.gov.uk)

What was the concern in the Republic of Ireland about polio vaccine and vCJD?

In December, 2000 the Irish Government issued a statement indicating that an oral polio vaccine distributed in 1998 and 1999 in Ireland had been manufactured using human serum albumin from a pool of donors, one of whom had since been diagnosed with vCJD. Evans/Medeva manufactured this oral polio vaccine. This vaccine is not licensed for use in the US.

Have there been vaccines produced using cow materials from countries where there is a significant risk of BSE?

During review of a license application, FDA learned that one manufacturer had used bovine-derived material from a country in which the USDA had determined that BSE might exist. CBER requested all vaccine manufacturers review the source of any bovine derived material used in the manufacture of their vaccines. Additional vaccines manufactured using bovine derived products from European countries were identified. These vaccines are identified in the “Recommendations for the Use of Vaccines Manufactured with Bovine Derived Materials” section of this web site. (See Section I)
snip...

When will vaccine manufacturers finish replacing cow-derived materials in vaccines with materials obtained from countries free of BSE?

The time to make a vaccine and bring it to market can take several months to a year. Most vaccine made using bovine derived material from non-BSE risk countries was available at the end of 2001...

snip...

Shouldn't all potentially contaminated vaccine be destroyed?

Also see above “Why is FDA leaving on the market vaccines which may be contaminated with the BSE agent?” FDA and other PHS agencies believe that the vaccines currently licensed for use in the US are safe. A special joint meeting of the TSE and Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committees concluded that the real risk of disease due to not vaccinating far outweighs the theoretical risk posed by exposure to vaccines that have a remote chance of containing the BSE agent.

http://www.fda.gov/cber/bse/bseqa.htm

NOW, FOR THE REST OF THE STORY ;

8. The Secretary of State has a number of licences. We understand that
the inactivated polio vaccine is no longer being used. There is a stock
of smallpox vaccine. We have not been able to determine the source
material. (Made in sheep very unlikely to contain bovine ingredients).

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...2/14010001.pdf
http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...2/14011001.pdf


although 176 products do _not_ conform to the CSM/VPC
guidelines.

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...9/06011001.pdf

TWA LITTLE minute

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...6/10001001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...6/13010001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...6/14006001.pdf



COMMERCIAL IN CONFIDENCE

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...9/06005001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...0/06005001.pdf



NOT FOR PUBLICATION

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...1/01012001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/yb/1988/11/04003001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...4/00007001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...7/00007001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...9/00004001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...0/00003001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...1/04001001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...1/26007001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...1/30001001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...9/06011001.pdf



NON-LICENSED HUMAN TISSUE DEVICES WERE NOT COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE snip... I was quite prepared to believe in unofficial pituitary hormones, also in the 1970's, whether as described by Dr. Little, or in other circumstances, for animal use. snip... The fact that there were jars of pituitaries (or extract) around on shelves is attested by the still potent 1943 pituitaries, described in Stockell Hartree et al. (J/RF/17/291) which had come from the lab. at Mill Hill. Having taken the trouble to collect them, they were not lightly thrown out...

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/ws/s467bx.pdf



more on the 1968 medicine act, they forgot to follow

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...1/30008001.pdf

Draft cover letter to product licence holders (considered by Human and Vet Medicines including deer)

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...2/22008001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...2/22011001.pdf

(It was noted with concern that hormone extracts could be manufactured by a veterinary surgeon for administration to animals under his care without any Medicines Act Control.)

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...6/08011001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...6/08011001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...6/07010001.pdf

TWA LITTLE STATEMENT 331

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/ws/s331.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/y...1/04003001.pdf


http://www.microbes.info/forums/inde...ew=getlastpost

http://lists.ifas.ufl.edu/cgi-bin/wa...mg&T=0&P=21108

http://lists.ifas.ufl.edu/cgi-bin/wa...mg&T=0&P=16159


18 January 2007 - Draft minutes of the SEAC 95 meeting (426 KB) held on 7
December 2006 are now available.
snip...

64. A member noted that at the recent Neuroprion meeting, a study was
presented showing that in transgenic mice BSE passaged in sheep may be more
virulent and infectious to a wider range of species than bovine derived BSE.

Other work presented suggested that BSE and bovine amyloidotic spongiform
encephalopathy (BASE) MAY BE RELATED. A mutation had been identified in the
prion protein gene in an AMERICAN BASE CASE THAT WAS SIMILAR IN NATURE TO A
MUTATION FOUND IN CASES OF SPORADIC CJD.


snip...

http://www.seac.gov.uk/minutes/95.pdf


3:30 Transmission of the Italian Atypical BSE (BASE) in Humanized Mouse

Models Qingzhong Kong, Ph.D., Assistant Professor, Pathology, Case Western Reserve
University

Bovine Amyloid Spongiform Encephalopathy (BASE) is an atypical BSE strain
discovered recently in Italy, and similar or different atypical BSE cases
were also reported in other countries. The infectivity and phenotypes of
these atypical BSE strains in humans are unknown. In collaboration with
Pierluigi Gambetti, as well as Maria Caramelli and her co-workers, we have
inoculated transgenic mice expressing human prion protein with brain
homogenates from BASE or BSE infected cattle. Our data shows that about half
of the BASE-inoculated mice became infected with an average incubation time
of about 19 months; in contrast, none of the BSE-inoculated mice appear to
be infected after more than 2 years.

***These results indicate that BASE is transmissible to humans and suggest that BASE is more virulent than
classical BSE in humans.***


6:30 Close of Day One
http://www.healthtech.com/2007/tse/day1.asp


SEE STEADY INCREASE IN SPORADIC CJD IN THE USA FROM
1997 TO 2006. SPORADIC CJD CASES TRIPLED, with phenotype
of 'UNKNOWN' strain growing. ...
http://www.cjdsurveillance.com/resou...asereport.html


There is a growing number of human CJD cases, and they were presented last
week in San Francisco by Luigi Gambatti(?) from his CJD surveillance
collection.

He estimates that it may be up to 14 or 15 persons which display selectively
SPRPSC and practically no detected RPRPSC proteins.

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/...006-4240t1.htm
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/...006-4240t1.pdf



JOURNAL OF NEUROLOGY
MARCH 26, 2003

RE-Monitoring the occurrence of emerging forms of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in the United States

Email Terry S. Singeltary:flounder9@VERISON.NET

I lost my mother to hvCJD (Heidenhain Variant CJD). I would like to comment on the CDC's attempts to monitor the occurrence of emerging forms of CJD. Asante, Collinge et al [1] have reported that BSE
transmission to the 129-methionine genotype can lead to an alternate phenotype that is indistinguishable from type 2 PrPSc, the commonest sporadic CJD. However, CJD and all human TSEs are not reportable nationally. CJD and all human TSEs must be made reportable in every state and internationally. I hope that the CDC does not continue to expect us to still believe that the 85%+ of all CJD cases which are sporadic are all spontaneous, without route/source. We have many TSEs in the USA in both animal and man. CWD in deer/elk is spreading rapidly and CWD does transmit to mink, ferret, cattle, and squirrel monkey by intracerebral inoculation. With the known incubation periods in other TSEs, oral transmission studies of CWD may take much longer. Every victim/family of CJD/TSEs should be asked about route and source of this agent. To prolong this will only spread the agent and needlessly expose others. In light of the findings of Asante and Collinge et al, there should be drastic measures to safeguard the medical and surgical arena from sporadic CJDs and all human TSEs. I only ponder how many sporadic CJDs in the USA are type 2 PrPSc?
http://www.neurology.org/cgi/eletters/60/2/176#535


Diagnosis and Reporting of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease
Singeltary, Sr et al. JAMA.2001; 285: 733-734.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/

BRITISH MEDICAL JOURNAL BMJ
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/319/7220/1312/b#EL2

BMJ
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/320/7226/8/b#EL1


[Docket No. 03-025IFA] FSIS Prohibition of the Use of Specified Risk Materials for Human Food and Requirement for the Disposition of Non-Ambulatory Disabled Cattle
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/Comme...3-025IFA-2.pdf


[Docket No. FSIS-2006-0011] FSIS Harvard Risk Assessment of Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE)
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/Comme...006-0011-1.pdf

THE SEVEN SCIENTIST REPORT ***
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/doc...4-Attach-1.pdf

PAUL BROWN M.D.
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/doc...0490-vol40.pdf


9 December 2005
Division of Dockets Management (RFA-305)

SEROLOGICALS CORPORATION
James J. Kramer, Ph.D.
Vice President, Corporate Operations
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/doc...3-01-vol35.pdf

Embassy of Japan
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/doc...0273-EC240.htm


Dockets Entered on December 22, 20052005D-0330, Guidance for Industry and FDA Review Staff on Collection of Platelets
by Automated ... EC 203, McDonald's Restaurants Corporation, Vol #:, 34 ...
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dai...205/122205.htm

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03-025IFA 03-025IFA-6 Jason Frost [PDF]
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732-741-2290
Cell: 732-580-9391 Fax: 732-741-7751 June 22, 2005 FSIS Docket Clerk US ...

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/Comme...-025IF-589.pdf

Terry S. Singeltary SR.
P.O. Box 42
Bacliff, Texas USA 77518

that post was too long.

the truth is a long and dangerous road sometimes.

but to ignore the facts, that's even more dangerous.

probably will not post anymore here, so you should not have to worry about anymore long posts......