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Old 07-13-2008, 06:00 PM #1
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My son has developed a vocal tic (huh) a day after receiving his Kindergarden shots. It is mild at times and at others so frequent he has trouble communicating. He has had some mild tics we ignored. (pulling his shirt/flicking his fingers) They lasted a few weeks and only occured when he was nervous. He was tested for aspergers 6 mo. ago (at my request) due to the fact that he had some trouble relating to his preschool peers. 2 days worth of tests showed cognitive skills off the charts, expresive language and social skills low ave.,but no aspergers! For the past 6 mo. he has made huge gains in social skills and communication due to the fact that we went back to revisit previous preschool skills (such as playing with puppets and reading about how to get along with others.....instead of answering questions about white blood cells and gravity on other planets)
Now after all this progress he has developed this tic. Last night he told his dad, "the doctor made this happen". He did freak out when he got the shots, and was very clingy the remainder of the day. Then the next day the tic began. I know the general medical community says there is not a relationship between immunizations and Autistic like symptoms but..........
Any advice/help would be appreciated. I started him on omega 3 and l carnitine just because I read it might help but I really don't know what I'm doing. Sandy
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Hi Sandy and welcome tho I am sure sorry this is what has brought you here

I know many parents who feel that vaccines have triggered tics in their kids, especially kids who are already susceptible

was one of the vaccines varicella(chicken pox)? this seems to be one that tends to trigger tics, based on anecdotal reports from parents.
Also it seems for some kids the combination of all the shots can have neurological impact

My son has genetic Tourette Syndrome and l-carnitine was very helpful for his vocal tics, while omega 3s are excellent all round (some kids with TS seem to tic more when given fish oil for omega 3 and do better on flaxseed oil)

have you tried epsom salts baths? (2 cups in tub warm water, soak for 20 min) The magnesium sulfate in the salts seems to have both calminative and detoxing properties for kids with tics.

hoping that things stabilize for your son and that this is just a transient tic
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Hi Sandy and welcome tho I am sure sorry this is what has brought you here

I know many parents who feel that vaccines have triggered tics in their kids, especially kids who are already susceptible

was one of the vaccines varicella(chicken pox)? this seems to be one that tends to trigger tics, based on anecdotal reports from parents.
Also it seems for some kids the combination of all the shots can have neurological impact

My son has genetic Tourette Syndrome and l-carnitine was very helpful for his vocal tics, while omega 3s are excellent all round (some kids with TS seem to tic more when given fish oil for omega 3 and do better on flaxseed oil)

have you tried epsom salts baths? (2 cups in tub warm water, soak for 20 min) The magnesium sulfate in the salts seems to have both calminative and detoxing properties for kids with tics.

hoping that things stabilize for your son and that this is just a transient tic
Thank you for responding. I'm going to try flaxseed oil and epsom salts. His shots included varicella, MMR,IPV and DTaP. I'm so angry right now. I feel as if I allowed myself to be bullied into these shots by a community that won't allow children in Kindergarten without them.
My son has also been sweating after he goes to sleep. The house is normal temp and he seems okay all day but when I have checked on him (an hour or so after falls asleep) his hair and pillow are wet. My gut says this is his body detoxing and I've tried to encourage water and gatoraide. Any other suggestions? I've also seen the word Panda and was wondering what that stood for. Thanks, Sandy
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Hi Sandy
PANDAS is Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorders Associated with Streptococcal Infections, where kids seem to get neuro stuff (primarily OCD and tics etc) after strep infection or exposure, or scarlet fever etc
It can only be dx by blood tests for strep antibodies as throat swab often gives a false negative

There is a lot of info out on vaccines triggering neurological disorders, including this article by David Kirby
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-...b_b_93627.html

It is such a difficult situation as the illnesses for which kids are vaccinated are serious and sometimes deadly ones, yet the growing evidence of harm from the vaccines simply cant be ignored IMHO

hoping that this will be transient for your child and that you see improvement soon.
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It sounds suspiciously like Tourette's syndrome, Sandy. Has anyone ever looked into this for you?
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It sounds suspiciously like Tourette's syndrome, Sandy. Has anyone ever looked into this for you?
No......seems as if 2 days with the school psychologist would have uncovered something. Had his 5 year old check up a week ago and mentioned the pulling on his shirt when he would try to explain something. Doc. said this was normal and would go away. (and this has held true in the past)
He did something unusual today and that was cling to me at his camp. Had the death grip on me and that is just not normal. He also said, as he was having a bath, (with epsom salts as recommended) "I hope this stuff calms me down". Have read up on Tourette's on the internet but there is sooo much information. Is anxiety part of it for kids? At what point would a diagnosis be important? Who would I see? Someone suggested a geneticist.
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