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Old 11-13-2011, 12:54 PM #1
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I have a healthy respect for the med. I am on and have no wish to upset the apple cart.
That's exactly why I'm not concerned about your having any future problems - not one iota. Healthy respect = good; worry/fear = not good. So please (try to) put the worry & fear on hold, and instead enjoy the quality of life the med. is affording you.

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I stumbled upon this post you made and am battling burning allodinya pain in my neck and upper back. My neurologist diagnoisis is SFN, My Pain Dr. is saying a neuralga. Here is a link to my story.
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread159222.html

I have had every blood test under the sun but never knew to get my harmones checked, so I did.


My Thyroid Profil, Cortisol, and other harmones were all good based off what you recommend to get checked.

My Pregnenolone, 21 was low. Range was 23-273.
My Testosterone was in range 168 Range 160-726
but on the low side. I am 39 years old.

I am on lyrica 225mg going up to 300mg in next week.
What advise wdo you have for me?
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Doc. I have a diagnosis of adrenal fatique caused by Hashimotos. Give me a few to look at your info, very intersting

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Also, when reading hormone test results remember that you generally need to be in the upper 10% range of the test (at least above 90% of the range). For instance healthy male testosterone is in the 500's, morning cortisol levels should be above 15.. etc..

When trying to heal the adrenals you may want to try Ashwaghanda, it worked miracles for me but I cured the unlaying reason I had adrenal fatique, so with continued pain medication use maybe continued adrenal support is required. Something like licorce extract and sea salt. If you can't get a Dr. to help support your adrenals with hydrocortisone, you can use Isocort, it's OTC.

There is a pretty good book on it called "Adrenal Fatgue: the 21st Century Stress Syndrome" but Dr. Wilson. But the specific heling techniques are really learned through others feedback on what works.

Hope I can give you some ideas, let me know.

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Also, when reading hormone test results remember that you generally need to be in the upper 10% range of the test (at least above 90% of the range).
Why? Where do you get that information/idea from?

Ashwaghanda?
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Ashwagandha in Sanskrit means "horse's smell", probably originating from the odor of its root which resembles that of a sweaty horse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withania_somnifera
!!! I'm already my dog's best friend. Smelling like that stuff, I'd never get a moment of peace! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

The underlying reason for my low adrenal levels is chronic pain, and my doctors tell me that's not likely to change barring some new breakthrough in spine replacement à la Star Trek: TNG

The supplements I'm taking are working pretty well, both in raising the deficient levels and in how I feel. Even better than expected in some respects.

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Horse smell.. LOL.. but hey it works, seriously not joking.

One of the reason behind the top 10% is because they allow sick people to participate in developing the ranges, the ranges are developed not for "healthy" people but for people not dying of disease. Your trying to be healthy.

I realize your adrenals would have a hard time on pain meds.. i have had to increase my hydrocortisone, thanks for the reminder.. argh.. my pooe adrenals have given out , i'd like to get a handle on exactly why?
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my pooe adrenals have given out , i'd like to get a handle on exactly why?
Adrenal fatigue (or insufficiency) can be caused by chronic pain, other forms of stress, infection, inflammation, environmental toxins, diet (caffeine, carbohydrates) and other factors - not just opioids. It's often found in people with diabetes and thyroid problems.
Google: adrenal fatigue causes

If you suspect some particular reason/trigger, try googling that with adrenal fatigue, and see if a cause/effect connection turns up in the literature.

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So sorry to hear of your story.Im 47 female going thru menopause and had dentures put in 7 months ago. Im suffering from Burning mouth syndrome.I feel like Im dying I cant eat its too painful. You have any ideas? Thank so much
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So sorry to hear of your story.Im 47 female going thru menopause and had dentures put in 7 months ago. Im suffering from Burning mouth syndrome.I feel like Im dying I cant eat its too painful. You have any ideas? Thank so much
Klonopin in dissolvable form works wonders for BMS, but Klonopin also can become highly addictive and you can build up a tolerance. But living with BMS may be worth taking the drug.
I don’t have BMS myself but I have read a few people with BMS and this was only thing that gave them relief. Remember, its got to be the dissolvable version not the regular pill form.

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So sorry to hear of your story.Im 47 female going thru menopause and had dentures put in 7 months ago. Im suffering from Burning mouth syndrome.I feel like Im dying I cant eat its too painful. You have any ideas? Thank so much
Are you saying/implying that the BMS is a result of or caused by having had the dentures put in?

I hadn't heard of this condition before, but there seems to be quite a bit of information on the web. My first thought before even looking was that it sounds like something involving the peripheral nervous system, and sure enough...
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Some research suggests that primary burning mouth syndrome is related to problems with taste and sensory nerves of the peripheral or central nervous system.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/bur...SECTION=causes
Another treatment that seems to work for some is Alpha Lipoic Acid (with no addiction/dependence risk).
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97% of the subjects on lipoic acid (600 mg/day for 2 months) showed some improvement (73% had "decided" improvement).
http://www.life-enhancement.com/arti...ate.asp?ID=726
Many people with Peripheral Neuropathy take a form of this - Stabilized R-Lipoic Acid. When taking this form, only 100 mg is as effective as 600 mg of Alpha Lipoic Acid.

In the event we're spinning our wheels here, it might be helpful to tell us a bit more (start a separate thread for clarity) about what you know about your BMS (primary/secondary, suspected cause(s), tests, things you've already tried, etc.)

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