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Old 10-09-2012, 08:56 PM #1
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I'm so glad I found this forum, and it feels good to actually be able to interact with folks that have the same condition as myself.

I was in a car accident January 2012. My (occipital neuralgia) symptoms started appearing May 2012. When no pain killers helped, I knew it was time to make an appointment with my neurologist. I was diagnosed with occipital neuralgia August 2012 (don't know how I dealt with it that long). I took gabapentin for a little over two months (HATED the side effects - just made me feel so strange / weird / unlike me). I received my first nerve block injections yesterday. I was so relieved the neurologist put a numbing agent into it, and I happily welcomed the immediate relief. Well, the immediate relief wore off about an hour ago. I certainly hope the cortisone agent kicks in soon. To have the pain gone for nearly 26 hours and reappear has taken me by terrible surprise.

How did the FIRST nerve block injections work out for you?

How long did it last for you?

How did the nerve block injections go after that (assuming you had more)?

I hope my relief comes soon.

Sigh...

I posted this in the O.N. thread earlier today, but I didn't get any responses (maybe that forum isn't as active as this one). It looks like I'll have to resume gabapentin tonight so I can have some sort of relief by morning.

I welcome all replies.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-16-2012, 02:55 PM #2
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Nobody knows why some people get months of relief from nerve blocks, while others get just hours of relief. The most relief I ever got from a nerve block was 3 hours, but that was enough to demonstrate to my doctor that my pain was indeed neuropathic. It was a diagnostic success but a therapeutic failure, just as in your case. For what it's worth, pain killers rarely helped me either, and in the case of narcotics, eventually made my pain worse.

So where does that leave people like us? Neuropathic pain is notoriously difficult to treat, but there are many options available. In your case, it appears as if the car accident set the stage for your pain. This is not unusual, as occipital neuralgia is often caused by trauma to the neck, which is common in such accidents. A more general term for pain due to neck trauma is "cervicogenic pain" (or "cervicogenic headache,") owing to the involvement of the cervical vertebrae and cervical nerves in the neck an lower portion of the head. An MRI may show trauma in this region, but occipital neuralgia often occurs without anything showing up on MRI (or X-Rays, CT scans, etc.) If trauma is evident, a surgeon may be able to help.

However, if MRIs and other imaging studies turn up nothing, this doesn't mean you don't have damage to the nerve or nearby structures; it simply means that the damage is too small to be seen, even though the pain and other symptoms may be severe. In this case, your doctor will need to treat your symptoms under the assumption that you have nerve damage.

Since traditional pain killers are frequently ineffective with nerve pain, your doctor may want to try other drugs shown to reduce nerve pain. Some of these drugs include certain anti-depressants, anti-seizure medications, and neuropathic agents (like the gabapentin you couldn't tolerate). Whether any given drug will help you is not predictable (as of yet,) so trial and error is called for. Be prepared to try several different drugs before finding one that helps with a minimum of bad side-effects. I am currently getting good relief of the stabbing pains on Cymbalta at 60mg/day. I still have contant pain that increases and decreases throughout the day, but it is manageable most of the time.

Best of luck to you!



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I'm so glad I found this forum, and it feels good to actually be able to interact with folks that have the same condition as myself.

I was in a car accident January 2012. My (occipital neuralgia) symptoms started appearing May 2012. When no pain killers helped, I knew it was time to make an appointment with my neurologist. I was diagnosed with occipital neuralgia August 2012 (don't know how I dealt with it that long). I took gabapentin for a little over two months (HATED the side effects - just made me feel so strange / weird / unlike me). I received my first nerve block injections yesterday. I was so relieved the neurologist put a numbing agent into it, and I happily welcomed the immediate relief. Well, the immediate relief wore off about an hour ago. I certainly hope the cortisone agent kicks in soon. To have the pain gone for nearly 26 hours and reappear has taken me by terrible surprise.

How did the FIRST nerve block injections work out for you?

How long did it last for you?

How did the nerve block injections go after that (assuming you had more)?

I hope my relief comes soon.

Sigh...

I posted this in the O.N. thread earlier today, but I didn't get any responses (maybe that forum isn't as active as this one). It looks like I'll have to resume gabapentin tonight so I can have some sort of relief by morning.

I welcome all replies.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:55 PM #3
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amw5,
welcome to the forum. I hope you find that you feel comfortable with others that have similar problems.

i've not had any injections, but I have been on gabapentin and pain meds. Some people don't seem to be effected negatively from that drug, but it can cause a lot of unwanted side effects as you have noticed. If you decide to stay on it, don't stop it cold turkey. I wouldn't worry too much about a few days, but if you wind up taking it for several weeks or months, stopping it with no tapering can cause some distressing withdrawl symptoms.

i hope you are able to get relief without having to resort to narcotics/opiods. They are a trap. I'm on several, all perscribed, and though they were a Godsend in the beginning, as my tolerance increased, the doses had to be increased, and more added on. At this point, they don't really help my pain much anymore, but the side effects are disabling, and I can't come off them or what little good they are doing will be gone. Most people say they cause euphoria, but for me, they cause dysphoria.

If you don't already, keeping a running journal of how you feel and what you are on helps both with knowing what to talk to your Dr. about, and picking up patterns of things that increase your pain or decrease it. I wish you the best of luck. Hopefully you and your Dr. can find you some relief from your pain.

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