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Old 04-15-2015, 06:07 PM #1
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[QUOTE=BeckyandDan;974101]Hi, I am new here... don't know format, etc. but here goes... Have had unexplained face pain for years (10). Have seen several doctors, dentists and neurologists. Recently finally diagnosed atypical face pain.... great.... still pretty much unconclusive. Through the years have been on many, many meds with no releif just all the side effects. Am done with the meds but desperately want pain to be gone. Next week I see a team of doctors/specialist to see if I am a candidate for Motor Cortex Stimulation. This scares me. There's so much to go wrong. Has anyone had any experience with this for atypical face pain. If so, what do I need to know about it; what kind of questions should I be asking at my appointments; and finally, how do we determine "my" pain is really bad enough to go through this. As with everything, some days are much worse than others and on those bad days my answer is a definate yes... Please help me with questions and answers as time gets near I am getting more and more nervous, but ready for the pain to be history. Thanks. [/QUOTE

I have the same problem and the same failures. What does that treatment consist of? Have you tried medical marijuana or Botox? That is what I am exploring next. Good luck.
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I have that diagnosis, but it's just the RSD spread in my head and face, eyes too. I use nasal ketamine and 4% lidocaine nasal spray and after a couple months it started controlling it very good. I have tried stellates and speneopaletine (sp?) blocks and cervical faucet blocks. The cervical block helped for a little while which tells me that is what is mediating my pain in my head. It is SIP. I am thinking of doing laser surgery to clean up my spurring and stenosis in my neck to see if it would help knock the burning down. My back, face and head are continuously burning since my foot surgery in 2011.
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Hi, I am new here... don't know format, etc. but here goes... Have had unexplained face pain for years (10). Have seen several doctors, dentists and neurologists. Recently finally diagnosed atypical face pain.... great.... still pretty much unconclusive. Through the years have been on many, many meds with no releif just all the side effects. Am done with the meds but desperately want pain to be gone. Next week I see a team of doctors/specialist to see if I am a candidate for Motor Cortex Stimulation. This scares me. There's so much to go wrong. Has anyone had any experience with this for atypical face pain. If so, what do I need to know about it; what kind of questions should I be asking at my appointments; and finally, how do we determine "my" pain is really bad enough to go through this. As with everything, some days are much worse than others and on those bad days my answer is a definate yes... Please help me with questions and answers as time gets near I am getting more and more nervous, but ready for the pain to be history. Thanks.
Hi, I was diagnosed with the same thing but it's RSD. I used 4% lidocain nasal spray, 10% ketamine nasal spray and oral ketamine troches. The lido and k spray over time reduced and eventually ended pain. I has speneopatine blocks, stellates did nothing. The continuous use of the nasal sprays settled nerve activity down. Dental work troches helped. I also used ketamine topical cream on my face, refrigerator cold packs too. It's possible your cervical spine could be mediating your face pain or it could be vascular. Try clonodine patch and if it helps it might be vascular. My eyelashes and eyebrows used to feel like steel wool. Head pain no fun. You can use topical k on your neck too numbs pain signals when but on spine. Any questions send me a message.
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Hi, I was diagnosed with the same thing but it's RSD. I used 4% lidocain nasal spray, 10% ketamine nasal spray and oral ketamine troches. The lido and k spray over time reduced and eventually ended pain. I has speneopatine blocks, stellates did nothing. The continuous use of the nasal sprays settled nerve activity down. Dental work troches helped. I also used ketamine topical cream on my face, refrigerator cold packs too. It's possible your cervical spine could be mediating your face pain or it could be vascular. Try clonodine patch and if it helps it might be vascular. My eyelashes and eyebrows used to feel like steel wool. Head pain no fun. You can use topical k on your neck too numbs pain signals when but on spine. Any questions send me a message.

Hi Jeri. I am very interested in talking to you regarding the Ketamine treatments as I am pretty much out of options and have a lot of rarities surrounding my particular case. My problems intensified/worsened after my wisdom teeth were extracted 12 years ago. After intense pain occurred in my upper left socket 2 weeks after extraction a mass formed in my upper left socket. The muscles surrounding that socket became inflamed/rigied to the point I could feel them popping out with a tongue sweep and I had an extreme headache. The mass was removed with no obvious causes or infections, and after a 3 week healing period which resulted me feeling the best I had in YEARS, the mass returned after being in a steam room/sauna.

I have had a headache all day, every day since. I have had teeth removed, nerve blocks, botox, all of the ATN/TN meds, tried accupuncture/chiro/massage/other alt medicines, had splints made, had balloon compressions with glycerol...nothing has helped. I have been to Mayo, Cleveland Clinic, Cedars Sinai...and others in a total of 12 states. In the last few years doctors seem to be gravitating toward the atypical facial pain profile, though I'm not so sure.

The problem with me is that I have a lot of unusual circumstances surrounding my case. Prior to the tooth removal I suffered from impaired nasal breathing, malaise, neck stiffness and a bunch of other seemingly unrelated issues like my smile feeling off and poor posture. Two days after removal I experienced a brief but 100 remission of symptoms. Imagine being born sick. You feel as if you don't feel like everyone else but you don't have a reference point so you are unsure. At this point I realized I had been dealing with something since at LEAST the 7th grade, when I experienced a period of extreme facial fatigue, a severe migraine, then a 3 month long bout of insomnia. I knew I didn't feel "right" but couldn't quantify it; this bothered me as I was a very intuitive kid who always knew when I had strep, sinus infections, etc. I started sleeping again but was never the same and it bothered me for years. I had no idea how bad it was until that epiphany after the removal.

So there is the age of onset (12), the mass (that formed TWICE in the same spot), the impaired nasal breathing (not sinus related), the muscular rigidity and dysfunction in that region and the headaches. Right now about the only things that I have left on the table are the DREZ procedure (don't feel good about that after the last one made it worse), MCS (no insurance covers it) and maybe ketamine treatments (no one close to Kansas City). The hard part is I have yet to find ANYONE that has a story similar to mine to the point where I'm like "yep that's me". To me be quite honest I'm not sure if I have CRPS (I don't quite fit there) or atypical facial pain (don't exactly fit their either).

All I know is I'm at the end of my rope. If you could give me some background it may help with some decisions I'll have to make.
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