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Old 02-02-2014, 09:50 PM #11
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Hi Diandra, my seizure in 2012 was the first I have had since 1966. At the time I was 5 and now I'm 52. As a child I had them fairly often, 1966 was a biggie causing my heart to arrest. After much testing with in childhood terms lots of "pink and blue buttons stuck to my head" they concluded I was experiencing febrile convulsions, down the track they determined I would never be able to regulate my core body temperature. To this day I'm the only one I know who goes to the beach and takes a jumper! if I lie down to rest in the day my temp plummets, on waking I'm shivering with cold, in winter I go to sleep with the fan on beside my bed as I'm hot. In 1968 they said if I overheated it would cause me to seize again.

The seizure in August 2012 came out of the blue, but I was suffering acute pain with an extreme headache and had all the signs something big coming, experiencing a really offensive smell and taste for days before it hit. They just don't know what caused the seizure but the really nasty doctor I saw told me it was because of acute pain. I remember nothing, lost 3 hours completely.

My neurologist put me on Lyrica increasing me up to 300 with the plan to further increase it, tbh I couldn't see or feel that it was making any difference to me and as my friend had suffered such withdrawal I weaned off it instead. I have so many problematic illnesses my GP wants to resolve one issue before tackling another. I had a small seizure in the December of 2012 while I was still taking the Lyrica and once my script ran out, in discussion with my GP I chose not to renew it.. I've concentrated on resolving the spinal problems before tackling the head. IMO the headaches come from stress of pain I'm suffering with my chronic back pain.

The GP put me on Xanax to control my anxiety and headaches as the evidence indicates it's the headache that caused the grand mal. With Xanax you can have even worse withdrawal symptoms than lyrica as I learned it too can cause you to have a seizure! I take Xanax only when I recognise the headache is entering dangerous waters, i.e. I smell offensive odours no one else can smell, experience a horrid taste, have visual disturbance or feel like my brain is in a little boat bobbing around on the ocean or slipping sideways, sounds weird I know. I take it only on the basis I am at home, someone is here and the idea is I will go to bed and stay there until the following day. So far it's worked, this year I've only taken it 3 times, maximum dose 1mg. I will not take it daily ever again.

Lyrica is an expensive drug in AUS. I have taken amytriptaline previously but, as they increased the doseage I began to get tremors and the feeling of fogginess that came with it I disliked. Not much help to you I'm sorry, and I'm so sad that you are experiencing seizures.

I know a lot of us dislike Lyrica and in reality, nearly all drugs have side effects and or withdrawal symptoms. If you need a drug and it works for you, so long as you are aware of the withdrawals and or side effects, you can prepare and ensure you are never be in a situation where you will run out. Eventually if and when you can come off it, do it with your physician and develop a schedule so it's not putting your body or mind at risk. The drug does work wonders for many people and if you are one that can notice the improvement it may be worth the risk. Many people do not experience any withdrawal symptoms at all although you indicate you did, I'm so sorry.

Pamela June, You have been through so much. It must have been so frightening and bewildering to have seizures as a child. You have my sympathy on all you have endured. Boy, doesn't it suck to deal with these health issues day in and day out. I don't know about you but, I roller coaster all over the place, sometimes I am doing well for weeks at a time and then, blam...something weird happens. 4 weeks ago my blood pressure skyrocketed. My doc said I was trying to endure pain with no meds and it was driving my pressure up so he said I was putting myself in a dangerous position and it was time to get back on my pain meds, so I did.

I experience my seizures in the same way, weird smell and odd tastes, overly sensitive to light/sound/movement and mild hallucinating, and oddly this also happened to me for 2 days before I had the seizure. It never happened that way before. But for me, the actual seizure only lasted minutes but then I was disoriented for hours afterward.

I also have a lot of health issues and always seem to have to juggle treatments.
Like I said in the beginning of this post, I got off my meds just to see where I stood pain wise and side effects wise. I learned my pain is too intense to live meds free. But I have been off lyrica since Nov. For the last two weeks I have gone swimming in an indoor pool and then did a jacuzzi and then a sauna. I think that triggered the seizure....I also have not had one in a long time.

I had a brain infection from Lyme Disease that did damage to my hippocampus and I have all these weird spots in my brain called UBO's that no one can explain to me. My seizures started in 1990 from the infection but when I get put on IV antibiotics it fixes the seizures and then I don't have then for many years.

Anyway, now I have to find a neurologist to help sort this all out because it has been so long since I had one my doc retired!

Thanks for sharing...it helps a lot just to know I am not alone in the kind of and presentation of my seizures. It is hard to explain to my family. I tell them it feels like I did mescaline or LSD( I am an old hippie from the 60,s!).

Thanks for sharing....I hope you remain seizure free. I have been taking lorazepam, a tranquilizer, and it has helped tamp down the shaky jittery feeling.
Take care of yourself,
Diandra

p.s. where do you live in Australia.? I live in Connecticut in the US...just an hour outside New York City.
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My wife has been using Celestial Seasonings Tension Tamer—and it seems to work for her.

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I finally found this tea and with a tranquilizer and restarting lyrica I am doing better.
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Hi Diandra
We all seemed to get the mother lode of pain and illness. Not just the one issue for us I'm afraid!
I'm in Perth, I lived in Chula-vista San Diego and then Denver Colorado in my early 20s, in my 30th year I returned to the US and lived in Stamford Connecticut and traveled to New York every day to attend college. I loved it, I imagine now it couldn't be done, we just nodding hello strangers used to daily get on the train just after 7am and hold the ticket in our hand for the conductor to punch while we slept through our journey and the few stops we made on the way. Gosh to think that was 23 years ago this year. I used to travel a lot and have lived in a number of places. All came to a screeching halt following the car accident and the added changes it bought to my life.
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We all seemed to get the mother lode of pain and illness. Not just the one issue for us I'm afraid!
I'm in Perth, I lived in Chula-vista San Diego and then Denver Colorado in my early 20s, in my 30th year I returned to the US and lived in Stamford Connecticut and traveled to New York every day to attend college. I loved it, I imagine now it couldn't be done, we just nodding hello strangers used to daily get on the train just after 7am and hold the ticket in our hand for the conductor to punch while we slept through our journey and the few stops we made on the way. Gosh to think that was 23 years ago this year. I used to travel a lot and have lived in a number of places. All came to a screeching halt following the car accident and the added changes it bought to my life.
Hi PJ...I sent you a private message because I have pulled everyone way off topic with all this personal stiff. D.

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@ Dr smith The lyrica cured a lady....and some others, with vulval nerve pain.
here is the post:"Three years ago I developed chronic burning pain which came on literally overnight. On a scale of 1 - 10 it was nearly always at a 9. After scouring the web, finding this website and seeing a gyni I knew I had vulvodynia. I was beside myself, was in the depths of depression and unable to work. My gyni prescribed lidocaine and amitryptoline, both of which didn't work. I also tried acupuncture but that wasn't much help either.

I finally decided to see a private pain consultant. O my he was my saviour - finally I had found someone who could sympathise and understand my agony. He immediately put me on 150mg of lyrica, kept me on the amitryptoline and gave me a supply of tramadol for emergencies (I only ever needed to take them once). Within 48 hours the pain had all but gone. In my second week he increased me to 300mg and I had no pain at all. In total I was on 300mg lyrica and 50mg ami."
source: http://vulvodyniasupport.forumotion....+down+the+line

she was on them for 3 years

other ladies have used it as well and they were able to have intercourse again (sigh)
I'm desperate for it since amitriptyline works very well for my pain
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The times that ive come off Lyrica, i experienced a 'cramp' in my brain. Like my brain is a muscle that is really tens.

An awkward feeling and close to unbaerable.

Tonight i started to tamper off the meds again and took 82.5 % of my normal dosis.
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@ Dr smith The lyrica cured a lady....and some others, with vulval nerve pain.
I read that link, and a bit more about the condition, of which little seems to be known. The woman who made that post never used the word "cure", and acknowledges that the pain may one day return. The Lyrica was a treatment for her pain—just as it's a possible treatment for neuropathic pain from peripheral neuropathy—but it is not a cure.

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Hi

I have read that Vulvodyna is concidered to be a form of peripheral neuropathy, and that is probably the reason this particular medication, Lyrica, has been effective in treating the pain symptoms of this cindition.

The Prudendal nerve is the nerve of the vulva, and it terminates there, and it is therfor distal. So, typically peripheral neuropathy starts in distal parts such as feet and hands, and in this case the vulva.( I have read)

Interesting also I read, there was a study of Vulvodyna patient where they used the QSAER test, and found that a large number of theese patients were positive in the sweat test therefore had autonomic neuropathy also suggesting small fiber neuropathy could be the cause of cronic vulva pain.

See this web page of the study done by GYN Dr. Harris and Dr. Jessica Robinson:
www.sohoobgyn/pdf/poster.pdp

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Hi Diandra
We all seemed to get the mother lode of pain and illness. Not just the one issue for us I'm afraid!
I'm in Perth, I lived in Chula-vista San Diego and then Denver Colorado in my early 20s, in my 30th year I returned to the US and lived in Stamford Connecticut and traveled to New York every day to attend college. I loved it, I imagine now it couldn't be done, we just nodding hello strangers used to daily get on the train just after 7am and hold the ticket in our hand for the conductor to punch while we slept through our journey and the few stops we made on the way. Gosh to think that was 23 years ago this year. I used to travel a lot and have lived in a number of places. All came to a screeching halt following the car accident and the added changes it bought to my life.
interesting to hear both you ladies
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hers bleach
she has been through the wringer
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part of occipital lobe removed
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I read that link, and a bit more about the condition, of which little seems to be known. The woman who made that post never used the word "cure", and acknowledges that the pain may one day return. The Lyrica was a treatment for her pain—just as it's a possible treatment for neuropathic pain from peripheral neuropathy—but it is not a cure.

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I agree I have used the word CURE very liberally, but perhaps in cases where nerve pain starts out of the blue for no apparent reason nerve pain medication may in some cases lead to remission (?). I've read so much about vulvodynia and pudendal neuralgia I am bored and only more confused as to what exactly causes them (besides obstetrical surgeries). For me, I went from 100% healthy to crippling nerve pain overnight from a simple tiny cyst which was infected and burst and just irritated the tissues.
On the other hand never say never, I might actually be pain free one day on 0 medication, no one knows what's going to happen.
I am weaning off Lyrica as well right now and getting the hypersensitivity back...yes nerve pain medications have a lot of side effects, but I am still grateful they exist in the first place.

But I HAVE seen some post that they were on Lyrica for 6 months or more only to be able to wean off it and have a normal life again (no more pain)...is remission a better word?
There was also an isolated case of another lady being pain free from pudendal neuralgia after a series of nerve blocks...
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