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ger715 05-21-2014 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Diandra (Post 1070572)
hi HD, geez, 21 is so young to have to be dealing with all this yet how fortunate you have found a partner who has similar issues and understands. my husband used to say, I wish It could be me for awhile instead of you dealing with all these health issues and all I can say is, I would never wish this on anyone, especially someone I love and I am sure your fiancé feels,the same way.

Ms Eva...I certainly understand the invisibility of your health issues and the lack of compassion by some folks. It is frustrating. I do appreciate your reminder to stop beating up on myself for my limitations. I try so hard not to but my husband married a well employed, healthy woman. and now he has me...(..Lord, that sounds awful ) and he just did not sign up for all this. He is a dear and says, I didn't sign up for it either. I wil work on accepting what I can do.....Thanks, D.


Diandra,
I, like you, feel, my husband married an independent woman (he said that was what attracted him to me (we met while both of us were widowed). I really feel badly for him. He does not complain; but when I mention having really a bad day, he rarely responds. I really think he has no idea. But, that could be just my own looking for understanding.

Understanding is another issue with so many chronic pain sufferers. My husband and I meet with his never married sister for lunch about once a month. I don't go out often; but when I do, usually try to go to restaurant that service is pretty quick. His sister often makes little jabs especially about a a foot rest I have to keep my back of legs from feet hanging on floor aggravating the PN. Also use elbows on table to keep pressure off spine pain. I shouldn't let these things bother me; but unfortunately they do. I mentioned a while back about her making me feel like I am faking. Instead, I was told there was not a mean bone in his sister's body.

If we could let go of guilt and wanting others to understand we are in pain and not making up excuses, etc.; most of us would probably feel much better and less depressed. Need to really work on myself and let go of these feelings.


Gerry

Diandra 05-22-2014 08:26 AM

Hi Gerry,
I know what you mean. My husband and siblings are very fit, all very healthy. We went on a family trip once, on a plane and I refused to carry on my bag and was the only one who checked a bag. There was grumbling we had to take an extra 5-10 minutes to get my bag...and I overheard a couple them commenting about it when they thought I was out of earshot. It is hard not to get hurt. These are people I thought loved me and they were criticizing such a stupid thing. I talked to my husband about it later and he said, because I never bring it up and never complain and look fine, people just forget my issues. And I guess he is right but I had been out of work on disability for awhile at that point and they knew it so I thought it was kinda mean.

I agree with you about trying not to let this stuff get to us. I have found I just hang out with people who "get it" and don't give me crap about it. I have a small circle of family and friends that fall into that category so that is who I spend time with. I keep reminding myself how lucky I am my husband is so understanding. Thanks for your response Gerry.
D.

Rockport 05-22-2014 08:57 AM

Hi Diandra, I know how you feel. I am in my early 50's and have been in pain since I was 34. In the past ten yrs the pain has gotten worse. I had spinal lumar fusion, I had a SCS installed (did not help me) and I had a pain pump installed. My husband had to start cleaning, cooking, paying bills, etc. I felt so guilty, I felt like I was letting everyone down. About four months ago I decide not to discuss my pain with anyone unless they really understand what I am going through. When ask how I feel my respond is I am O.K. As for the cleaning, cooking, working outside, etc. I just do the best I can. I still have guilt and alot of pain. But I thing everyone here well help us through this and we will be able to help others along the way. One more thing, no matter how bad I feel I was keep smiling. It kind of helps me through the day. Rockport

Diandra 05-22-2014 07:59 PM

Thanks Rockport....good advice to keep smiling. And I agree to just not talk to people who don't get the pain issues. When I think back to when I was healthy and pain free, I probably wasn't very understanding myself.

Are you by any chance from Rockport Mass?
I grew up in Massachusetts.
Diandra

KatLC 06-14-2014 07:26 PM

This is something I struggle with a lot too. I have accepted the fact that my house will never really be that clean because I can't do housework and I don't want my husband to have to do everything. When I get stressed about things not being organized or the kitchen being too dirty to cook dinner I just remind myself that it's not all that important. If people want to judge me because my home is a mess that's their issue, not mine.

Not being able to go out I find harder to deal with. I don't want my husband to limit his life because of me so I encourage him to go out with friends even when I am in too much pain to go out. He's been very supportive about it, he knows my limitations and doesn't pressure me or make feel bad about not going out. I still get depressed about not being "normal", I don't think that will every fully go away. I manage to keep myself feeling well by staying busy with things I enjoy that don't cause me pain.

The important thing to remember: you don't have to live your life according to other people's expectations. There is nothing wrong with living your life the way you need to.

zorro1 06-15-2014 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Diandra (Post 1070953)
Hi Gerry,
I know what you mean. My husband and siblings are very fit, all very healthy. We went on a family trip once, on a plane and I refused to carry on my bag and was the only one who checked a bag. There was grumbling we had to take an extra 5-10 minutes to get my bag...and I overheard a couple them commenting about it when they thought I was out of earshot. It is hard not to get hurt. These are people I thought loved me and they were criticizing such a stupid thing. I talked to my husband about it later and he said, because I never bring it up and never complain and look fine, people just forget my issues. And I guess he is right but I had been out of work on disability for awhile at that point and they knew it so I thought it was kinda mean.

I agree with you about trying not to let this stuff get to us. I have found I just hang out with people who "get it" and don't give me crap about it. I have a small circle of family and friends that fall into that category so that is who I spend time with. I keep reminding myself how lucky I am my husband is so understanding. Thanks for your response Gerry.
D.

"because I never bring it up and never complain and look fine, people just forget my issues."

Yes! its a viscous circle. if you complain your a drag to be around but if you suck it up everyone thinks your okay and then don't believe you if you ever cry out again..

Dr. Smith 06-15-2014 10:27 AM

Yup, we're danged if we do, and danged if we don't. :Ponder:

Doc

PamelaJune 06-16-2014 03:29 AM

Guilty ! Dang right you are here Doc
 
Only by choice. I used to feel guilty all the time, worrying about being a burden and how annoying life must be with me. Now, not so much, I've grown with my pain, I've matured and realised what I once used to say in many of my training sessions is oh so true, we have the power of choice over our emotions. We can choose how we feel, how we react and how we behave.

We choose to feel emotions we imagine other people are thinking. A lovely lady I met once said to me, you would worry less about what people think if only you knew how little they think.

My husband says to me all the time, don't worry about it. I know better now, he really genuinely does mean don't worry about it. There is give and take in all our relationships and I have given our relationship my all.

It would be different if it were just a one way effort, but we are both in this together for better or for worse. We made a conscious choice when we got married, not knowing what could or would be coming down the track. Do I wish it was otherwise, oh yes! But, you know what, it could be worse, it could instead be him that suffers the constant pain and I would not want that! So now when he tells me if he could, he would take my pain, I know, instead, I have taken his.:hug::hug:

ger715 06-16-2014 04:27 PM

Pam,
 
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Originally Posted by PamelaJune (Post 1076021)
Only by choice. I used to feel guilty all the time, worrying about being a burden and how annoying life must be with me. Now, not so much, I've grown with my pain, I've matured and realised what I once used to say in many of my training sessions is oh so true, we have the power of choice over our emotions. We can choose how we feel, how we react and how we behave.

We choose to feel emotions we imagine other people are thinking. A lovely lady I met once said to me, you would worry less about what people think if only you knew how little they think.

My husband says to me all the time, don't worry about it. I know better now, he really genuinely does mean don't worry about it. There is give and take in all our relationships and I have given our relationship my all.

It would be different if it were just a one way effort, but we are both in this together for better or for worse. We made a conscious choice when we got married, not knowing what could or would be coming down the track. Do I wish it was otherwise, oh yes! But, you know what, it could be worse, it could instead be him that suffers the constant pain and I would not want that! So now when he tells me if he could, he would take my pain, I know, instead, I have taken his.:hug::hug:



Thank you for putting this in prospective. I have often thought how fortunate he/I are that he is able to get around so well with very few issues. I wouldn't want it any differently.


Gerry

eva5667faliure 06-19-2014 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by St George 2013 (Post 1060254)
Hey there sweet girl :)

I'm right there with you on the guilt trip....and it is so emotionally and physically draining. When I was laid off after 26 years in Sept 2012 I had so many plans. Plans for the house, plans for the yard, plans to do things with my 6 grandchildren and finally, plans to go back to work. But that all came to a crashing halt. Hysterectomy, rare uterine cancer, 6 rounds of chemo and then the small fiber neuropathy monster. The guilt when going through chemo wasn't too bad. On good days I could actually do things and not suffer for it later. But that doesn't work with SFN. On the few good days I have I try to do things that need to get done in the house. I CANNOT believe my house looks like this ! And yes...I have people I can ask to help but just feel too guilty to do it. My kids and grandkids are good about popping in and out and taking out the trash or cleaning up the kitchen if needed and I so appreciate that. But that is not the cleaning I need done.

For years, I'm 51, I cooked a huge dinner every Sunday and had anywhere from 10 to 15 people at my house. I'm unable to do that anymore and it just tears me up inside. It was one of my great joys to see everyone eating and having a good time. Kids running in and out.

My mom, 83, had an addition build on to our house. It's a small apartment and I am thankful she is here. She says she does not know what she would do without me but I feel the same way about her. Sometimes she takes more care of me than I do her :) She comes everyday during the week and washes our clothes, makes up our bed and washes whatever dishes are in the sink.

My husband works a full schedule despite back problems and large fiber neuropathy. He's very little help around the house.

And grocery shopping......I just can't do it. I've tried and used the scooters but the next few days are h ell for me. I'm home 99% of the time. I only go out to dr's appointments. Every once in a blue moon I'll feel well enough to drive. Another few days in the bed or recliner. My daughter has been great about getting my groceries.

All I want to do is be able to grocery shop once a week, clean my house and cook dinner. Those are my goals right now but seem so far away. Which is depressing.

I'm just randomly typing...not even sure if it makes any sense but at least I feel better :)

Take care everyone and thanks so much for being here on this site.

Debi from Georgia

you are walking in my shoes
thank you
everything you speak of is how my life is
you make perfect sense to this woman
whose passion in life
a table full on Sundays
everyone enjoying some good cooking
i think this is what pains me most
not to use a knife like i could
i so live like you
for to do what we both love
just sucks the life left in me
i am unable to do it anymore
my daughter comes and cooks once a week
loves doing it
love having her
you are Not alone
love
me


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