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Old 01-09-2008, 01:50 PM #11
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>>>> " i will tell you this to come off methadone is a very very hard thing i thought i was going to die for about a week" <<<<
A word of advice, I don't know how rough quitting an 80mg a day morphine habit would be, but PLEASE whatever else you do, do yourself a favor and do not even attempt doing a cold turkey from a greater than 180mg daily, maybe greater than a 120mg a day, morphine addiction. I doubt many people could do it by themselves, and even fewer would be willing to try it twice. Have your doctor(s) assist you with it. Once was enough for me, My "PC" Dr. thought I was going to stroke out and insisted on locking me up in a hospital for a week, but I insisted on continuing. Turns out she had good cause for such advice, I did OK, but I seem to lead a rather charmed existence. But, once again, even though I know nothing about you and methadone (pretty much useless to me), or you and morphine either one, PLEASE do not attempt a self administered cold turkey detox from morphine!


>>>> "if you can go out side as much as you can do it it helps the more you can keep move and going the better you will be" <<<<
Absolutely correct!!! Getting up and getting going, no matter how bad it hurts, stimulates endorphin production, which helps to stimulate your opiate/endorphin receptors, making you and your meds work better together.

>>>> "anyway i went a little over board i think but i just had to say it" <<<<
That was overboard? LOL, I get more aggravated than that at weather! It's OK to get really mad about things sometimes, everybody needs to let off a little steam now and then. Some of us just let things build up a little more than we should sometimes...
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:45 PM #12
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hello ya the mothadone was tuff as hell i would not get back on it agen to save my life it's just way to hard to get off but i did it i have some left over and i droped them in the big G i did mix water so know one can see what they are or try to use them

anyway i am starting the 80ms in the morning and will post in a day or so
if anyone here is on mothadone and have taken it for a long time like i did and you want off them do not do it with out your doc help trust me thats a ride you do not want

you all be safe and hope you get a day with no pain but i know thats tuff even with all the meds your just never out of pain

i will be going to have my back worked on soon agen they are going to be doing a Spinal cord stimulator had anyone had this or know anyone that has
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(((gentle hug)))) I tried methadone only because my MD said she wouldn't have any issues with the FDA if she prescribed it (over the narcotic that works just fine for me!) It make me sick, literally (allergies?) Not only is it just as potent, but it carries the stigma of "drug addict" with it. No way would I do that again.

I hope the kadian continues to help. Yes, anytime a medicine "stops" working it's time to adjust things, whether that means increasing it or trying a different medicine. It just happens.

I have heard good stuff from some ppl who have the stimulator, and some not good from others. I guess it's like most thing?

Let us know how you are doing!

I continue to see a pain and stress management psychologist, and also my physical therapist 3x a week. It's one of those things I have to do for my life. (In addition to 3 sets of stretching exercises at home each day.)

Feel better.
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Arthur is correct. Never withdrawl on your own. Please seek counsel from your Dr. It's fact you can die from opiate withdrawl. You have to be stepped down gradually. My sister takes methadone and just stopped taking it and ended up in the hospital. It is my understanding that methadone is the hardest of the opiate pain meds to withdrawl from.I have been taking morphine for 5 years now. 9 abdominal surgeries with three being major kidney surgeries and my insides are world war three. The issue inside is ARD,(adhesion related disorder ). Now Dr. is trying to decide if I have MS as well. Yipes
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hi tofast2drive,
I have heard that some doctors prescribe a spinal cord stimulator only because they want to avoid having some right winger target them for prescribing opiates. People have had them put in poorly by docs not experienced enough, or in cases where it wouldn't be helpful, so, you have to rule out those 2 potential problems. Get second opinions, read up on the experiences of others, etc. Also, the stimulators work by sending messages to interfere with and hopefully confuse the pain messages that are being sent, so they don't work completely and you still have to take some pain killers.
I wonder if it might be true that a pain pump should be tried first? I know it can reduce the amount of opiates you take by more than a factor of 10 because it is local. Don't let any doctor convince you to try a stimulator until you feel that it will work better for you than a pump or oral painkillers.
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