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Old 11-13-2007, 12:23 PM #1
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Confused Morphine v Methadone Help please

Hello all i am new here and i live in a life of pain
i have had my back worked on 3 times my right leg 10 times and left leg 1 time

what meds i take i am on methadone for yrs 5 now and percocet for 7 yrs i use it now for BT pain now
and i take valium and zanflex

well i am wanting to get off the methadone and my pain doc has given me Kadian that's is moephine

anyone ever do this and what works better the mothadone or the morphine

with the methadone it's not helping much anymore and i do not get sleepy from it at all i take it 4 timers aday at 10MG pills

the kadian is 20mg i will be taking 2 aday

and anyone that had had taken methadone for a long time did you hert from not taking it anymore or will i be ok with the new meds i take i am scerd i will crash from not taking the mothadone

any and all info would be good

Thanks Rich
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Hi,
I read that you are on Methodone and also morphene? I was on Methodone for over a year, also oxicodone. I was seeing a pain management Dr. in Kansas city.
It seemed that every time I saw him he was suggesting a new narcotic.
While on the methodone I would phase out constantly. Its like if you go to sleep for a minute or so, and then wake up for awhile and do it again. I dropped things all the time. I am a smoker and I riddled the carpet with holes by dropping my cigarette. I would phase out with a smoke in my hand and would drop it to burn a hole. How lovely of me don't you think??
This past January I went into the hospital for a major surgery. (It was lifting up my insides) It has a real long name, but after having four big babys things were going down and needed to be lifted up. When the surgeon got me opened up
there was a problem right away. Because I was taking methodone , they
found several large balls of poop.I was suppose to be cleaned out.The infection rate just went up.
I stopped breathing two times and went to ICU on the vent. This was also because of the methodone. I had to have more anesthesia to get knocked out because my tolerance was high. This was also caused by the methodone.
While I spent two weeks in the hospital, my family Dr. took me off methodone.
Right now I am on NO narcotics. I didn't realize that the methodone had changed my behavior so drastically. I look back now and think of all the weird stuff I would do. I also would fall asleep in my chair and lean way over to the right side and me and the chair both would take a tumble. On one of these
occasions I fell over , hit this little heater we have, and split my lip.
I can't tell you what to do. I can only share my experience when I was taking methodone. It is nice not to have those weird behaviors any more.
Also very dangerous behaviors.
God Bless and I hope you can work things out
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hello yes i am on methadone for 4 more days and then i will be taking kadian i have bean taking methadone now for 5 yrs and it do not help me any more thats why i am trying some thing new i do take percocet 3 times a day as well and some others but the thing that is scering me will i with drow bad from not taking the mothadone or will my other drugs help with the with drows
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hi there

I have tried both and for me Methadone did nothing other than make me sick but Morphine helped a little.

Good luck!
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Hello.
I have been on narcotic pain medication of different types now for 8 years. I was thrown from a horse in 1999, broke a vertebra, had a (failed) spinal fusion, and was at one time on 3 80-mg. oxycontins a day. That worked quite well, controlled my pain, and I was certainly not high or dizzy or phasing out. When I had the misfortune of moving to this city and state (can I say it openly?) ok, Erie, Pennsylvania- I found out that because there was a doctor arrested here in town, nobody will prescribe pain med anymore. I have to travel to Pittsburgh, Cleveland, or Buffalo. Most recently I've been seeing a doctor in Cleveland but when I visit my son in Miami for Christmas, I hope to see a pain doctor there. Even the Cleveland doctor will not go above the 50 mcg. Duragesic patch (Mylan). I would like to get back on 3 80 mg. oxycontins a day.
Does anyone have a city to recommend where the doctors are understanding about pain?
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Hello all i am new here and i live in a life of pain
i have had my back worked on 3 times my right leg 10 times and left leg 1 time

what meds i take i am on methadone for yrs 5 now and percocet for 7 yrs i use it now for BT pain now
and i take valium and zanflex

well i am wanting to get off the methadone and my pain doc has given me Kadian that's is moephine

anyone ever do this and what works better the mothadone or the morphine

with the methadone it's not helping much anymore and i do not get sleepy from it at all i take it 4 timers aday at 10MG pills

the kadian is 20mg i will be taking 2 aday

and anyone that had had taken methadone for a long time did you hert from not taking it anymore or will i be ok with the new meds i take i am scerd i will crash from not taking the mothadone

any and all info would be good

Thanks Rich
The VA has me on Methadosne and has just increased the doseage from 10mg a day to 15 for onw week then 20mg a day also I am dtill taking Perocet for brreakthrough pain I have osteoarthritis in my hip and my back. Thw main problem seems to be in my back I am also recovering from a brain Injury sfter I had brain tumor surjery in june 2003 I am 100% disabled and on SSDI they do not expect me to be able to return to work I just saw my Nero Doctor recently and she orderd a MRI/MRA done again I had one done over a year ago and I sometimes get dizzy and have balance problems, I just got up this morning and I am in pain I just took my morning medications and my Perocet 2 Now I cannot drive for at least 4 to 6 hours or the time period between doses. That is the main problem that has kept me at home is that if I want to go somewhere i have to plan to do it now after lunch and thats really no problem because I only have top pick up a few things today at the grocery store. But on other days when the pain is worse I have to stay on the medications all day.Im single and I have a female roommate who is my best friend she helps me and I dont have any social life to speak of now just the AAmate has to drive me meetings I go to and most of the tiome my roommate has to drive me to those. I will have 2 years sober at the end of the month so as you can see I have a lot of issues going on at the same time.And I am working with my treatment team at the VA my primary care Doctor, My Nero Doctor. The VA Pain Clinic,My Case Manager at the MISA program which is for Veterans witha Mental Illiness / Substance Abuse Problem, so its all of them working together for a solution I also called the county here about a abuse conseling program that the VA does not offer in a enviroment I would be comfortable in. I also have to complete a sleep study for sleep Apnea and the Pain Clinic are scheduling a fluro procedure injection in feburary of next year. and thats about all for right now whew!
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hello i was on 40ms aday so 4 10's aday and i was ok but over time it stoped working for me i was on it for 5 yrs and i will tell you this to come off mothadone is a very very hard thing i thot i was going to die for about a week

my doc got me on kadian i was on 40ms aday now i am on 60 ms
i hope evry thing works out for you and never give up

i was about to give up one day and i sleep on it but wen i woke up my wife was there looking at me and i was able to see the love she has for me and thats all i needed pain is a funny thing it can make us think about thing the we would of never dremed of doing befor we got hert

but now i see thing in a better light i have my life my wife my kids amd my freinds most of all

if you can go out side as much as you can do it it helps the more you can keep move and going the better you will be this is my motel i say this evry day i get up and i do it anyway i went a little over bord i think but i hust had to say it
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hello guys well all is getting batter for me i was on 60M of Kadian 30m in the morning and 30 at night now i am starting 50M in the morning and 30 at night

for a totel od 80M of kadinn aday i am hoping this help a little better i was taking 60M kadian and 3 7.5 perocet a day but with the 80Ms of the kadian my doc wants me to drop 1 pill from the perocet will i will let you all know how this works out

Thanks for all your help
Rich
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