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Old 09-21-2006, 09:39 PM #21
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You bring very good information on that.

What I've always done, in an attempt to stay safe there, is copy a paragraph or so (that I feel is the most important for others to view) along with identifying information, then post the link to the article for a full reading by viewers.

I've always tried to stay safe there (fair use and copyright laws). Just sharing my personal practice

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Hi, KimmyDawn, I'm very happy to meet you.

What you've described is perfect. Thank you very much!

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a trigger icon?

many of us on the epilepsy forum have photosensitive seizures triggered by graphics. icons are graphics. am i being required to post an icon that will trigger seizures to announce that the post will trigger seizures?

since i have all graphics turned off, so that they will not trigger my seizures, i have no way of knowing what an icon is unless the icon has a description that shows when i run my mouse over it. does this mean that i have to mouse over every icon in the forum in order to make sure none of them are trigger icons?

perhaps there is a better way to do this.
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a trigger icon?

many of us on the epilepsy forum have photosensitive seizures triggered by graphics. icons are graphics. am i being required to post an icon that will trigger seizures to announce that the post will trigger seizures?

since i have all graphics turned off, so that they will not trigger my seizures, i have no way of knowing what an icon is unless the icon has a description that shows when i run my mouse over it. does this mean that i have to mouse over every icon in the forum in order to make sure none of them are trigger icons?

perhaps there is a better way to do this.
If the forum images have alt tags, or whatever the similar descriptor is in php (I only really know about html), then you should be able to tell your browser to automatically expand the words so that you can read them.

Another (which I've seen used elsewhere) is to use TRIGGER in the same way as OT (for off-topic) in the thread title.

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I couldn't sleep last night for thinking about this one.....Off Topic posts.....I have a Tramatic Brain Injury with memory loss.....I also have a shattered spine with chronic pain......

I think the hardest part for me to deal with is the emotional distress I have to deal with.....from these issues........I didn't want to post in the TBI forum or the emotional distress forum.....because there was never anyone in them....I could post in those forums on the OBT and maybe a few people would come in there in a week...!...

I posted in the chronic pain forum, because that is where there were people all of the time.....at least there was someone there who would respond.....people lived there.....I used them to help me think sometimes........that is where the people I know over the last 8 years posted......

all of my posts over the years were OT........but I posted NPR, not pain related, before each of my posts....so that people would know and they didn't have to read it....that is the thing that made braintalk different, in the sense, that it was okay to have off topic posts and JL supported that....

It would break my heart, after all of this, if my posts were to be removed and sent somewhere else because they were labeled as inappropriate for a particular forum.....I came to this place to be with the 'family' that I know.....I really hope you don't take that freedom away from me, because we must fall into specific catagories........

I hope I pled my case well enough that you agree to have off topic posts in the forums......we shared our lives there not just specific pain issues only....

I feel much worry over this issue.........

Blessings on us all......
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Yes, we will make an exception for such copying and pasting here, because for educational purposes, you can legally do so.



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Many of us posted in the past using the guidelines from OBT...

Which were, if you sited and quoted the author you could post copyrighted
materials. Many of us who are more medically oriented did this alot.

In your guidelines:


For example, I have a membership to a great science magazine called
Science News. www.sciencenews.org

Right on their articles is a permission to "email this to a friend" statement.
When I post copies for people, I quote the link, and "quote" the article.

Using copyrighited materials with the INTENT of making them your own words,
does infringe on copywrite,esp to make $$.. But quoting, and using "fair use" ....
Is that allowable here? I am unclear and confused.
example:
http://www.piercelaw.edu/tfield/copynet.htm
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We will endeavor to have more than one person assigned to every forum, even if kimmydawn (kd) and I have to be the second person. This will ensure every report is taken seriously, even those against the mods themselves.

If you *ever* have any doubts about anything going on here, PM me or kd and you will get an answer. It may not be immediate (give us some time to look into an issue), but you will get an answer. Unlike other forums, we're here, we answer PMs, and we will be here in the future.

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Doc John & to "whomever else it may concern"-

I have a question that's been "rattling around" in my brain and I'm not trying to be a comedian here , and am not talking about anything that's happened YET- just one of those "what ifs". For the sake of argument, what if one of the mods happens to be rude in a reply to a poster or says something in their regular, "un mod" self in a reply to a thread that seems to be rude or uncalled for.....and people decide to hit that little red triangle and report the post, would that mean that they're reporting a mod to the mods? What if that particular mod moderating a particular forum was the one who had been rude? Would that mean we were reporting that mod to him/her own self?! Again, not trying to be a smart@#$ but would another mod then have to send the rude mod a PM or what? Just my curiosity....
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And I think you make a very good case for allowing any and all OT or NPR posts in any forum!

Something that would be helpful for newcomers to our community would probably be a little dictionary of terms and what they mean.

OT = Off-topic post
NPR = Not pain related post

etc. etc.

I'd love it if someone could please compile a little one to get us started!!

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I couldn't sleep last night for thinking about this one.....Off Topic posts.....I have a Tramatic Brain Injury with memory loss.....I also have a shattered spine with chronic pain......

I think the hardest part for me to deal with is the emotional distress I have to deal with.....from these issues........I didn't want to post in the TBI forum or the emotional distress forum.....because there was never anyone in them....I could post in those forums on the OBT and maybe a few people would come in there in a week...!...

I posted in the chronic pain forum, because that is where there were people all of the time.....at least there was someone there who would respond.....people lived there.....I used them to help me think sometimes........that is where the people I know over the last 8 years posted......

all of my posts over the years were OT........but I posted NPR, not pain related, before each of my posts....so that people would know and they didn't have to read it....that is the thing that made braintalk different, in the sense, that it was okay to have off topic posts and JL supported that....

It would break my heart, after all of this, if my posts were to be removed and sent somewhere else because they were labeled as inappropriate for a particular forum.....I came to this place to be with the 'family' that I know.....I really hope you don't take that freedom away from me, because we must fall into specific catagories........

I hope I pled my case well enough that you agree to have off topic posts in the forums......we shared our lives there not just specific pain issues only....

I feel much worry over this issue.........

Blessings on us all......
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If someone hasn't yet answered this, I'll make an attempt to do so.....

Triggers can be any thing that can be emotionally distressing to a person.

Since it can be anything, this guideline is focused on some of the more obvious topics that can be triggering:

-suicide
-cutting
-many abuse topics (e.g., those that are graphic in description)
-flashing graphics

I hope that clarifies things.

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I have read the guidelines and they appear to cover the concerns I've had about getting involved with this site. I am also a member of BT1 but didn't get as involved as I have been on this site. I do have one question and it involves "triggers". I'm not sure what you mean by that. Could someone explain it to me and also where do you get the trigger icon?
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