The editing of posts via mods....
 

after a reasonable amount of time...I guess would depend on how much you trust the mods? In that quarter, HERE I have no problem with that AT ALL. Other places, well, the mods can and have been 'inconsistent' at best. Still other places exert a sort of benign neglect unless a complaint is lodged against the initial poster [usually probably because another poster believes the initial poster is WRONG...or disagrees with facts that contradict their own beliefs]

I understand the meds fog thing, it takes a toll on a very many of us. At least this way, options at a later date/time are not totally out of the question. I believe it's all designed as a courtesy to the MODS, after all, they are the ones who make sure we all 'behave'. Good manners all around, essentially. I believe the whole of board participants adhere to these principles and that's what makes it all healthy.

Thanks for all the work folks! - j

Dahlek
 

yeah but *meds fog* is quite different from being unconsious. __________________________

for me trusting mods has absolutely nought to do with this, the issue is me.
trust mods? sometimes; here, usually. deleted posts after a long time? yeah. paranoia? sometimes, even bad.mental illness? yeahhh... isn't that what this support forum is about.

There is nothing wrong with the mods effecting a change for me; there is everything wrong with my having to contact someone.Administration is not responsible for my feelings, obviously. But i see no harm in expressing how this change would affect me... and to what extent. And it would to where I'd be afraid to share.

best regards

~ waves ~

I believe I see where you are coming from....
 

BUT an experience I'd had on another board, was, ultimately a good one in the end. I'd posted a somewhat harsh reaction to some comments. After I'd pushed the 'submit' button...I'd tried to delete that post and couldn't edit nor amend. I'd appealed to the mods and received a very kind response that: While the comments were acerabit [my form of humor mostly] the issues/concerns voiced by me [even in that state of mind] were really VALID. Sometimes...even when we're drugged out of our normal selves...well, maybe good viewpoints just 'come out'? As long as it doesn't hurt others, or deter others from comments...well, to me-it's good!
To discuss, and openly is healthy! To let ego come into play, well, some/many of us can 'blame' our meds? I am sure I'm not the only guilty one here, nor will I be the last. I tend to think that it may not be 'ego'....more likely ANGER. Anger at what we have, what can and can't be done, at the time it takes to diagnose and that while lots is being done 'research' wise, well, little of it is gonna affect me NOW nor in the next 10-15 years....NOT ENUF in my book, but, I am one mere member of this community.

I'm comfortable w/the mods in the areas I usually post in. Concerns in my quarter of this community have always been dealt with tactfully and in reasonable timeframes... I admit that at times, I have been at fault-and I have been approached and addressed issues to a usual mutual satisfaction.

I guess in the end it all means that we, AS A GROUP, are trying to work out the middle ground as best we can. I sure hope we can.

Good thoughts for all! - j

Remember too, that if a correction or added information is needed to update an older post - you can just quote that post and note the new info or corrected info in the new reply.
Then the new info would be bumped up also.

yes very important we do this
 

This is especially important with scientific info. i often quote the corrected excerpt, or make some note as to what the correction was (in the new post) and link back explicitly to the old post.

I guess I did not think I needed to write Doc john personally about this as I thought he was reading this thread and I know that kimmy dawn has responded and other mods as well.
How much harm could there be from 12 to 24 hours or is it the principal of the matter?
jsut curious.
bizi

Hi bizi :)

I was just recommending a PM as well as it is something that is clearly important to you

sometimes a personal PM can convey a point in a way that maybe a long thread cant kwim:o

:hug:

Hi Dalek !
 

Dear Dahlek,

you make some interesting considerations.

it seems you have had a pretty positive experience with meds and mods (lol) ... i shall make treasure of this.

mine, and i believe Bizi's, immediate concern is one of basic arithmetic. a medication has an effect for a certain duration of time. depending what and how much we take we can be knocked out past the edit window.

this problem would be resolved to a large extent if the edit limit were brought up to 24 hours.

There have been times where i have been dead as a log (not med fog, log, kerplunk. kaput. thonk. total narcosis) for 14 hours, and, now that you mention it, foggy afterwards for about six hours with apparent and most unfortunate immunity to caffeine, to boot! if only my boss had been a forum admin... sigh. prime time tv? who? but i digress: this situation 12 hours edit vs. 14 med that gives me what, no viable hours to change or delete posts, and very few viable hours in a single day to do all my viablility-requiring things.

You also mention the med fog. That unfortunately is also a problem as Bizi alludes to in her post at our forum. I shall say here from my personal experience, i also have post-drugginess effects from Ambien, especially if awoken too soon.

take care Dahlek. Thanks for your thoughts.

~ waves ~

neither did i, and so did i
 

Doc John: if you are reading, please consider - reconsider re-re-consider our requests for the increase of the edit window to a twenty four hour limit on the trial run.

Chemar: i only just gleaned a sort of suggestion to be synthetic... a short note... then again some of our posts are that. but i think i understand better what you are trying to say than when i first saw your post.

couldn't have put this better, and the same is true for me. i have been in touch by pm and by posting on this issue, to members all including powers that be.

maybe i'll just forward him some links, heh. (silly me).

~ waves ~ seriously ~ the 24 hours would help.

There are a few bonuses for having a time limit.

1) It prevents a member from getting angry and deleting all their posting...changing history and leaving huge holes in the forums.

2) It prevents posts from getting so long from added information that they become difficult to read, so adding another post to the thread helps many in their reading and understanding.

3) It prevents history from being changed in conflict.

4) It allows moderators to do their job more effeciently with a "real time" perception.

I could go on about the "reasons" for an editing limit.

12 hours has been chosen as a reasonable editing time limit. As I've stated before...some communities only allow for 1 hour.

I'll say again, when you PM a mod, you don't have to give "whys"...just ask. Alot of times a request might not even be necessary because you can add additional information or correction in another post/response.

When posts are edited alot to add information, it's missed alot of the time because it doesn't show up as a new post to flag for the member reading, so when you go back and add to an older post alot of the time the additional (and maybe really important) information is missed. For that reason alone, with or without the edit limit, I think it's a good idea to create a new post within a thread for additional information to *really* get it out there.

If you have difficulties due to meds or illness, don't hesitate to shoot a friend, mod or admin a PM and have them read your post for you within the 12 hour limit. They can give you their feedback in the time allowed. Again, if you choose not to do that, you can clarify in a subsequent post.

To sum up, there are alot of reasons for the limit, and 12 hours will remain that limit for now.

I can't express enough that it just takes a quick PM saying, "Hey, will you remove, change, edit this post for me in this manner?" No one is here to question why you want it done. Dahlek mentioned that she wanted that done and the mod thought it should stay. It's not up to us to determine that (as long as it's in the guidelines and doesn't drastically change the history of a thread). In other words, it's not up to us to judge the reasoning unless it's an extreme, or out of the ordinary, request.

If you feel you can't or won't ask for an edit, you can always add a correction, or expand, in a following post.

Again, the 12 hours will stand for now but we will revisit it at a later date. If you don't feel comfortable asking a mod/admin who have stated time and again that we're here for you in any manner we can be, or please feel free to make your own corrections in a subsequent post.

Thanks!

KD