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evie 08-31-2006 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ZombieSlayer (Post 1925)
The database that was used when the site was at MGH is gone. Corrupted or damaged beyond repair (to the best of my knowledge and memory).

The DB at MGH might be gone but almost all of the content is still available at the wayback machine.

I wanted to restore one of the forums and asked them whether this would be possible. Their response was that yes, the content is there and they would and could help as long as the forum owners are in agreement, give their permission and/or make the request themselves.

I was thinking of contacting JL or the mods to get that permission but lost the motivation to do so when the forum in question once again degenerated into bickering and attacking each other.

cheers
eve

Ponygirl 08-31-2006 10:10 AM

Please,......
 
Leave this site up, in case, BrainTalk goes down, again!

anonymous_no_more 08-31-2006 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by evie (Post 2206)
The DB at MGH might be gone but almost all of the content is still available at the wayback machine...

I was thinking of contacting JL or the mods to get that permission but lost the motivation to do so when the forum in question once again degenerated into bickering and attacking each other.

cheers
eve


I remember your offer, and too, was disappointed that it deep-ended in arguments, insane speculation, paranoia driven "what-ifs", with the end result being data, left where some wanted it: neverland, outer-space, etc.

It was clear some of the members' were perhaps embarrassed by the possible "reappearance" of posts/threads that they were not particularly proud of, even though you had made it clear, you were only interested in "revitalizing" informative/medical posts.

Too bad. But, thanks again for making the offer. That was nice.

anonymous 08-31-2006 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ponygirl (Post 2239)
Leave this site up, in case, BrainTalk goes down, again!

Yes, reliability of BT1 is my main concern as well. Other people have had issues with banning, moderators, etc., but if hardware/software/support issues remain the same, I’m afraid it’s just a matter of time until the next BT1 crash. I suspect many of us would like to go back to BT1 as the knowledgebase there is/(was ?) like nowhere else on earth, but having a “backup” site would really be a lifesaver! Change the name if need be, but this site has been a real Godsend!

Thanks again DocJohn! (and ZS too for the temp chat area) :)

P.S.
The vote tally as of today (8/31/06) continues to overwhelmingly support keeping BT2.

Jomar 08-31-2006 11:19 AM

type this into a search engine {google , ect}
site:brain.hastypastry.net

behind .net - add your user name or any topic you want to search the old BT for-- click on the cached page link and you can find some of the old info

so some of it is still out there - thanks to wittesea for posting that link and info in another thread.

ZombieSlayer 08-31-2006 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evie (Post 2206)
The DB at MGH might be gone but almost all of the content is still available at the wayback machine.

I wanted to restore one of the forums and asked them whether this would be possible. Their response was that yes, the content is there and they would and could help as long as the forum owners are in agreement, give their permission and/or make the request themselves.

I was thinking of contacting JL or the mods to get that permission but lost the motivation to do so when the forum in question once again degenerated into bickering and attacking each other.

cheers
eve

True they do have a lot of the posts archived. I didn't know they'd assist in restoring lost posts.

That's somethig I'll have to look into for my own forums :D

evie 09-01-2006 04:58 PM

They'd provide you with a zipped archive of one date, so if you have to recover several dates, you would still have to do the merging :)

cheers
eve

Dmom3005 09-02-2006 10:21 PM

I am really enjoying this forum and I don't plan to go back
to the other one unless its to see some friends.

I don't care for lots of the politics going on.

Donna

Rocking4Epilepsy 09-03-2006 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dorry (Post 1283)
I saw that David H guy in ZS's chat yesterday. He just lurked and then he split.

Hey come on guys use ZS's BT2 chat. It's nice a quiet in there ;)


http://www.thunder65.com/bt_temp_chat/chat/



I was told that David and ZS is the same guy.
Is this not true?

dorry 09-03-2006 02:41 PM

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I was told that David and ZS is the same guy.
Is this not true?
OMG! that's a wild rumor for sure.

http://www.geocities.com/braintalkge...cs/popcorn.gif


Naw ZS isn't DH. Matter of fact ZS was in the room when DH was there and DH split.

ZS is cool. *if* ZS were DH, he would have no problem giving me crap for mooning him.

ZS is a baybee - maybe in his 30's? Don't know how old DH is.

Pooooooor ZS! How do these rumors start anyway?

Rocking4Epilepsy 09-03-2006 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dorry (Post 2947)
OMG! that's a wild rumor for sure.

http://www.geocities.com/braintalkge...cs/popcorn.gif


Naw ZS isn't DH. Matter of fact ZS was in the room when DH was there and DH split.

ZS is cool. *if* ZS were DH, he would have no problem giving me crap for mooning him.

ZS is a baybee - maybe in his 30's? Don't know how old DH is.

Pooooooor ZS! How do these rumors start anyway?



Thanks for setting this straight, I know other members who were told the same thing.
:rolleyes: Guess someone just started a story.

dorry 09-03-2006 02:54 PM

lol that's cool. it was funny though! I've known Zombieslayer for about 4 yrs. Even snail mailed him a disc a few years ago. Not to worry.

ZombieSlayer 09-03-2006 08:22 PM

I'm David H?

Damn...I knew there was something else wrong with me :p

All kidding aside, no I am not David H.

ZombieSlayer 09-03-2006 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorry (Post 2947)
OMG! that's a wild rumor for sure.

http://www.geocities.com/braintalkge...cs/popcorn.gif


Naw ZS isn't DH. Matter of fact ZS was in the room when DH was there and DH split.

ZS is cool. *if* ZS were DH, he would have no problem giving me crap for mooning him.

ZS is a baybee - maybe in his 30's? Don't know how old DH is.

Pooooooor ZS! How do these rumors start anyway?

Alright there missy! Enough with this baby crap :D

Oh and since you brought it up...

http://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley/images/...d/bartmoon.gif

dorry 09-03-2006 11:31 PM

haha thats baybee to you! Or youngin if you prefer ;) Once us ole timers hit 50, everyone else is a baby.

moon me will yah? :eek:

dorry 09-05-2006 06:08 PM

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Waging war to stop terrorism is like putting out fire with gasoline
I like your sig Granola ;)

Thelma 09-05-2006 08:13 PM

Like the little boy caught at the fridge ...........I didn't eat it.........poointing as his siblings.......

they made me do it
a sticky yet

Thelma 09-05-2006 09:52 PM

No


Have to have ten characters so

no
no
no
no
no

sjp_fanatic 09-05-2006 10:06 PM

Keep it up incase the ORIGINAL goes down again, we might have a back-up. JMHO

lady_express_44 09-06-2006 04:33 PM

I love Braintalk . . . even when I was temporarily suspended on one occasion. :)

Admittedly, I was very glad that they opted to suspend rather then ban me completely. I am very sure I would have an entirely different perspective on the management of that board if they had taken it to an extreme of a permanent banning (for a relatively minor infringement).

I generally like the people, the knowledge, the moderating there. Maybe we were lucky on the MS forum because we had very few problems compared to what I am hearing now, and many other boards I've visited.

I'll be going back, but I still voted to keep this open. I will probably visit this site too on a regular basis.

Thanks DrJohn, for setting this up. I would never have found this if you hadn't used the BT handle, so I think that was great thinking on your part.

Cherie

ConsiderThis 09-09-2006 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dorry (Post 1987)
A hearty amen to that barbara!

And, a Cheer!!!!!!

Hip Hip Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ConsiderThis 09-09-2006 12:32 AM

Quote:

Waging war to stop terrorism is like putting out fire with gasoline
Quote:

Originally Posted by dorry (Post 3378)
I like your sig Granola ;)

I do too. :)

swift 09-09-2006 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lady_express_44 (Post 3604)
I generally like the people, the knowledge, the moderating there. Maybe we were lucky on the MS forum because we had very few problems compared to what I am hearing now, and many other boards I've visited.
Cherie

Having looked at the Psych Central forums, it looks like there's a reasonable protection of mods privacy as well as the openess (I was initially concerned when people were saying there were pictures up etc - as that could stop someone becoming a moderator). I know that people have been talking about the 'multiple names' issue - which I think can be appropriate depending on circumstances.

I co-moderate a national charity forum (which can be interesting work at times as it's for 16+ year olds, so every comment has to be premoderated :eek: (well, it's :eek: when I get back from a weekend to find my e-mail box full of spam saying 'forum x has y unapproved messages', 'forum x has y+1 unapproved messages' etc.)). Now on that forum, I can choose to post as me or as 'Moderator'. Even though that forum doesn't have the same level of emotive discussion/difference of opinion any more (as most of the 'interesting' characters left when they started to pre-mod everyone), if I was posting as myself I'd far rather post as 'me' for a couple of reasons:

i. People have feelings associated with 'Moderator' - and may (at least with the age group the board's for) take more account of what I'm saying - not a good thing if I'm just talking about my personal experiences.

ii. It's an odd thing, but if you watch threads closely the actual effect of 'Moderator' posting on a thread can be big - in some forums you actually see people compete to get a 'Moderator' posting on their thread.

That said, I don't think that it's acceptable to deal with differences of opinion (that break t&cs) on a thread that I've posted on as 'me'...it just doesn't feel right - and I'd expect my co-moderators there to treat 'me' exactly the same as any other poster - but maybe I'm being idealistic?

xxx
Swift
PS before anyone goes looking, it's one of the few forums that I actually post on with my real first name. ;)

ConsiderThis 09-09-2006 08:23 AM

Hi Swift,
I posted on an Irish forum for awhile... but it was sponsored by a drug company so some mentions of B12 being useful in depression never got posted. When I made my posts more innocuous, then they got approved.

There was very little activity on the forum. Probably for that reason. I say that because when they let my posts go through, there'd be genuine interest and activity, but if it got to where it might lead to criticism of a drug... or a major opting for vitamins, then the thread was deadened.

I was on another forum where they had these automatic answers... they were so weird. The program took a part of your post and incorporated it into an answer that made it sound as if a person had written it and thought that whatever you said was a bit mistaken in not appreciating such and such a drug, etc. more. Very weird indeed. I was there when they were testing the system at one point, and it was so peculiar to see how it worked...

swift 09-09-2006 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConsiderThis (Post 4275)
Hi Swift,
I posted on an Irish forum for awhile... but it was sponsored by a drug company so some mentions of B12 being useful in depression never got posted. When I made my posts more innocuous, then they got approved.

There was very little activity on the forum. Probably for that reason. I say that because when they let my posts go through, there'd be genuine interest and activity, but if it got to where it might lead to criticism of a drug... or a major opting for vitamins, then the thread was deadened.

I was on another forum where they had these automatic answers... they were so weird. The program took a part of your post and incorporated it into an answer that made it sound as if a person had written it and thought that whatever you said was a bit mistaken in not appreciating such and such a drug, etc. more. Very weird indeed. I was there when they were testing the system at one point, and it was so peculiar to see how it worked...

Don't worry, I wasn't for one moment saying that any adult site should be pre-modded - just thinking about how much hard work moderating can be, and the merits (and otherwise) of anonymous vs. relatively public moderators.

Swift

ConsiderThis 09-09-2006 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swift (Post 4291)
Don't worry, I wasn't for one moment saying that any adult site should be pre-modded - just thinking about how much hard work moderating can be, and the merits (and otherwise) of anonymous vs. relatively public moderators.

Swift

(((((((Swift)))))))

Have a happy day!

SallyC 09-10-2006 01:39 PM

Yes Please!
 
I do want this Forum to stay and I thank DocJohn for starting it.

A couple of years ago, I was a frequent poster in the MS forum at BT and absolutely loved the place and people..well, most of them.(google brought many trolls.

I left there to help someone, who was unhappy with the covert way BT was run, to start his own forum. I was also unhappy that good people were getting banned and whole threads were disappearing (deleted).

People were bickering, which will happen from time to time, and instead of our being left to work things out, the threads were deleted with no explanation...as if we were children, being scolded.

There was no method to the Mod's madness, because not all offenders were punished. If the Mod liked you, you didn't get touched, but if they didn't, then, of course, you were toast. I was never banned, BTW, so I am just speaking from a "what's fair" prospective.

I Loved the old MGH, but not the new improved version, with the invisable Mods and the seemingly, disappearing JL.

I will, most likely not go back to BT, so, since it's really all about MEEEE :D , Please keep BT2 in place.

Thanks a bunch. :p

ConsiderThis 09-10-2006 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyC (Post 4617)
I do want this Forum to stay and I thank DocJohn for starting it.

A couple of years ago, I was a frequent poster in the MS forum at BT and absolutely loved the place and people..well, most of them.(google brought many trolls.

I left there to help someone, who was unhappy with the covert way BT was run, to start his own forum. I was also unhappy that good people were getting banned and whole threads were disappearing (deleted).

People were bickering, which will happen from time to time, and instead of our being left to work things out, the threads were deleted with no explanation...as if we were children, being scolded.

There was no method to the Mod's madness, because not all offenders were punished. If the Mod liked you, you didn't get touched, but if they didn't, then, of course, you were toast. I was never banned, BTW, so I am just speaking from a "what's fair" prospective.

I Loved the old MGH, but not the new improved version, with the invisable Mods and the seemingly, disappearing JL.

I will, most likely not go back to BT, so, since it's really all about MEEEE :D , Please keep BT2 in place.

Thanks a bunch. :p

I liked your whole post, but totally loved "it's really all about MEEEE :D"

Cracked me up!

DocJohn 09-10-2006 02:25 PM

It's clear that folks want to keep this community running, whether or not BT ever returns.

Please visit the naming thread and put in your vote for what you'd like to call the new community. Thank you!

John

ConsiderThis 09-10-2006 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DocJohn (Post 4632)
It's clear that folks want to keep this community running, whether or not BT ever returns.

Please visit the naming thread and put in your vote for what you'd like to call the new community. Thank you!

John

As someone who used to sell alternative phone book advertising, I'd love to see the name remain the same. :D ... And on my way to the appropriate thread. :D


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