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snoozie 05-17-2007 10:36 AM

Many of us have other forums that we visit. Usually we can find another site that deals more with a particular ailment we may have. I am also found at the ASAP site.

One of the things that I disagree with BT is that they will not allow you to share a link to another site. The SM site at BT was very slow if visited at all so it would be nice to let others know that there are other sites to visit where you will find others with helpful advice and friendship.

I think that when you cut up a site into different boards that only "certain" people can visit it has to make you wonder why are they so secretive? I know that when I was first introduced into this cyber world I lurked for a long time. Now if you can't lurk without signing up where does that benefit anyone. After all, all you are doing is reading and hopefully learning.

I like that our mods are open, friendly and share many of the same problems we all face in our daily lives. It makes this place feel more comfortable and relaxing. We may have our disagreements but they are handled in adult like manner rather than petty infighting and banning.

When I was a kid there was a neighborhood bully who when he didn't get his way he would throw a fit and take his football and go home so the fun ended there. Well we found another football and kept right on playing. Hmmmm kinda like we did here. Have a great day everyone...Sue:D

Curious 05-17-2007 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jena1225 (Post 100880)
:confused: Where did you get that idea? Am I not part of this forum b/c I chose to voice my opinion? Somehow, that doesn't quite make sense. I post here often, although I seem to be a thread-killer, I am not the type to have to one place or another, I can do both. But because I choose to make a very clear observation, and respond to a post, has nothing to do with anything. So, I am quite confused by your statement :confused:

from your very own post jena. sorry of i took it wrong, but it reads to me that you consider yourself a bt'er who is visiting. :confused:

I think you guys here at BT2 should think twice when not replying to BT'ers when we visit here, and start treating everyone as if they are real people looking for real support

jena1225 05-17-2007 10:50 AM

Hmmm, I suppose I did, but maybe it hasn't occured to me that it even matters. Does it really matter? Like I said before, I like to post to give and receive support. Is there something special I have to do to be not just a "visitor"?? I mean, seriosly, what is the difference between coming here to post, and visiting?? Come on now, things like this are just petty, don't you think? Am I now the focus of being nit-picked to death for any special reason other than expressing an opinion like everyone else has?

Pamster 05-17-2007 10:55 AM

I just want to add a few points here, that we are all just people looking to find other people who need and offer support to each other. Whether we came here from a google search or an email from a friend last year when BT1 was down, we're STILL here and I can only speak for myself when I say that I haven't seen any heavy handed moderating on BT1 ever, probably because it went on in other forums that I don't post in, I am not saying it didn't happen...I can't say such a thing because to do so would be belittling the feelings of people who feel mods on BT1 'wronged' them in some way. I can say that I have had a couple run ins with reporting rude posts in the Chronic Pain forum and I was glad for the swift banning of the offensive poster.

People in pain especially do not deserve to be dumped upon anymore then someone who is emotionally distraught does. It's not fair that we have to deal with trolls looking for pots to stir up trouble in. I like NT and since the name was changed I feel much more at home here then I did before the name change when I was posting about how it bothered me-I've since settled that in my mind after seeing the name change to something really cool like Neuro Talk. It is a good strong name and I am pleased seeing it on the psych central home page, that is wonderful that Doc John cares about NT enough to list it on the PC page.

Another point I want to hit home is that no matter what we are all just people, people in search of other people to share thoughts and feelings and experiences with, so we shouldn't judge one another because of what happens on other boards. I think personal beefs should be taken care of in email or the IGNORE button be used, that is what the feature is for so if you find yourself in a situation with someone that is bothering you or upsetting you I would definitely engage the ignore feature without a second thought.

That said I have to admire the way this board is being run, the administrators are heavily involved and their welcome presence is comforting. It shows me that they care and are 'walking the walk of the talk they talked' and that impresses me. I thank you all for all you've done to accept me personally and to help me personally. Some of the articles Doc John posts are really important to me and I am delighted to find things like that here. I think that one forum he posts in daily really is a great asset to NT and I thank you Doc John.

And thank you too KimmyDawn & Curious & Chemar, you all are doing a great job, thanks to the other staffers who's names I don't remember at this moment, you've all conducted yourselves with class and I appreciate it. I don't like to see BT1 bashing though, I love BT and will be there until it's no longer there for people...I also am growing to love NT, it's become another place I load up before bed and right after booting up because I know my friends are here just as I know I have friends there on BT. One shouldn't be judged for posting on another board. We should just go on about our business and post the stuff that matters, our friends deserve no less then our loving support just like they give us in return.

Bottom line, thank you NT staff, thank you for not bashing BT1 when it was having trouble, that said a lot to me, I saw Doc John correcting people in one of the forums about where the money went that people gave to BT, and when I saw that I felt very impressed, impressed that he cared enough to answer such a allegation to set the record straight. All I have seen of you Doc John you are definitely a class act and I thank you for keeping the doors here open for people looking for a place to find support and information. :)

Chemar 05-17-2007 11:04 AM

thank you Pamster :hug:

jena...sorry if you felt the subject of a mod-pile :D that was not the intent.

Just as you answer our posts I think we were simply answering points you had made.
Certainly my post was only directed for your attention when I mentioned your name, and to respond to the very specific points you had made, and thereafter I was talking more to ALL of us.

Bottom line is, this thread is welcome to continue as long as the polite requests that KD and I have made are heeded.

This is not singling out any previous posters, but generalizing for ALL posters.

We value opinions, we treasure free speech....but whenever these become even vaguely flaming or accusatory, we have to intervene, especially for the sake of members who already have quite enough battles to face in life, without having to see this one resurface.

Time to move forward doncha think!

jena1225 05-17-2007 11:06 AM

Nicely stated Pam. I also see alot of Moderation, and I also think that is important and that they are sincerely involved.

kimmydawn 05-17-2007 11:08 AM

((((Pam))))

Thank you. This is what it's all about on so many levels. I appreciate your kind words and regard. :) I feel the same about you...a class act. We really try hard and it's nice to know it's appreciated as the same. Will we mess up? Sure...already have. ;) However, intent for the best is ALWAYS there...

{{{{Jena}}}}

I'm sorry you feel nit-picked. I think the opportunity arose in the thread to address concerns and it was taken. It was certainly not for you to feel nit-picked. I was speaking to what I've seen, experienced and witnessed in my time here, as well as adding hopes and tips out of concern for the direction that the thread *might* heading in. :)

I'm glad you're here to make the most of what you can find here. I hope that for ALL members.

There are many that use both forums and I say "GREAT SELF-CARE!" I'm the one who also feels badly for them when they don't have what they depend on...no matter where it is they generally obtain it from. We can consistently keep NT available for anyone who cares to use it for its intended purposes with a warm welcome.

Welcome :)

Respectfully,

KD

jena1225 05-17-2007 11:12 AM

That's quite alright. It really was the whole "visiting" aspect that baffled me is all. Again, I am fine on this end and thank you for the welcome :)

Doody 05-17-2007 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jena1225 (Post 100836)
I have been there quite awhile, and can tell you I have never noticed any of the things you refer to, That does not mean it did not happen, it just means I never felt the need to get involved in the drama, even though I did not even know there was any to be had! Those who chose to are the only ones who got hurt. They say when you know too much....

Hi Jena. I know several people who were hurt and really needed the place. Long-time members in good standing, if you will; since the mid-90s. They didn't 'choose' to get involved in drama. The drama was, for the most part, imposed on them. People who should have been warned and banned, and their threads deleted, weren't. One of those causing the hurt is still there and in a leadership capacity; hence, some of us who know that don't go there.

Saying that those people chose to get involved in drama were the only ones who got hurt is...well, a slap on a lot of their faces in my opinion.

We already hashed out all of this when NeuroTalk first started.

Kimmy Dawn, Chemar, Curious or one of you lovely people...isn't there something that could be done about updates? I mean, is there a link to Doc John's blog or daily reports or whatever he does, that people could refer to when BT goes down?

From what I've read here, BT doesn't allow links to this place, however...when something goes wrong, NT ends up with people looking for help.

Not sure exactly what I'm asking for. An obvious link to Doc John's news briefs?

jena1225 05-17-2007 11:46 AM

Are you serious? Why is it that when you all have an opinion, it's ok because you are "cranky", yet when soome happens to make a state they believe to be true, it's a slap in the face:

DoodyAs I've said before a couple of times, I love this place. It may still be growing, but quite frankly...I get really tired of hearing about BT1. Once upon a time, it was a nice place.

And here I go 'cause I'm of the mood, but friends of mine were treated poorly there, we're here now, and BT is a thing of the past for me. So, I guess now I'll ignore, plug my ears, and not look at BT1 threads again.

This is NeuroTalk.


DoodyArtist, I'm just venting. One too many funerals and mishaps lately and I hope today's funeral was the last one I have to go to in a very long time.

It's just that, if people get started in on BT, it STILL gets my heart racing just a little bit more because believe me, I do have ill will going on regarding that place and certain persons in particular, and being the snotty brat that I am, I can't hold my opinions in to myself when I start getting reallllllly mad. I'm sorry for your folks who still go there.

I can see this all snowballing down a big hill so to that I say....


Seem as if there is a big double standard here, and this may very well not stop.

I am not the type to get "bullied" out of expressing my thoughts and opinions. To my knowledge, I have not attacked anyone, pointed my finger, mentioned ANYONE'S name, although alot of that has gone on here.

Perhaps you feel defensive because I said things you did not "agree" with, and I am not in your "group" or what have you, but come on

Doody 05-17-2007 11:57 AM

We all have a right to express our opinions, including me.

"I'm sorry for you folks who go there" meant I was sorry for the folks who go there who couldn't get in because BT was down again.

So, since you misinterpreted what I was trying to say, then I may have misinterpreted what I thought to be an implication that former BT'ers who were banned were looking for drama.

redjpwranglergirl 05-17-2007 12:02 PM

Lara and everyone else,
I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my comments- they weren't directed at you, Lara, or anyone else. As I stated, I was speaking for MYSELF and stating the way I felt about bt. No where in there did I say that anybody who still reads/posts there is a fool or anything else and I don't feel that way. Maybe things were different in different forums there- I don't know. I just felt that I had a right to state an opinion here as much as anyone else does. It didn't occur to me that I'd be attacked for it. In the months since NT started, I've seen some pretty ugly things said to some people and about a number of different topics but I just read it and if I had something to say, I'd post and if I didn't, I'd just keep reading. Even though I've read some things that were extremely against my personal beliefs, I let it go- you never saw me reply to them. And that's because I feel that while I strongly disagreed with the things being said, that those people were entitled to their opinions- and I have to tell you, some of the things said were VERY offensive to me. While I am known for saying what I think, I don't try to go out of my way to offend anyone or be purposely ugly to anyone. I feel like you have as much right to post here as I do and I don't expect everyone to always agree with me or anyone else. If that were the case, the world would be extremely boring. Again, I apologize to Lara and anyone else I offended. Possibly I didn't make myself clear enough in my post that I was only speaking for myself, although it never occured to me that I was calling anyone stupid or a fool. And possibly it's best that I don't post an opinion on the Community Feedback again because it's not worth it if it ends up hurting someone else, which wasn't my intent. The only other comment I have is, a forum is a forum for everyone, whether we always agree with them or not. And again, I'm sorry if I did hurt anyone and I wasn't trying to take this thread in a bad direction.

Jomar 05-17-2007 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimmydawn (Post 100861)

One way to help minimize hurt is to use "I statements", not "you" as they feel accusatory and can make others feel defensive. Please don't tell another that their decision, or feelings, are wrong or not justified. Please don't tell another that their choices and perceptions are wrong.

KD

Just a reminder. For all posting on this thread as it is a tender subject.

Sometimes the typed words come across as harsh when they may not have been meant that way.
While one may be just being silly or trying to inject humor - another may read it as sarcasm or anger.

jena1225 05-17-2007 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doody (Post 100943)
We all have a right to express our opinions, including me.


Didn't I just spent the last hour saying this? We ALL do, even me, and really did not deserve to be grouped-up on. Everyone should go back and re-read things they have said in the past, and perhaps the pot can stop calling the kettle black. Good luck everyone!!:hug:

kimmydawn 05-17-2007 12:19 PM

This thread began as an informational thread for ANYONE who might need it.

Let's get it back on track please. If you have taken personal offense to something someone has said to this point, please send a PM either to that person or to a mod/admin in the form of a complaint. There is some going back and forth that would be better served in PM for the other members contributing.

Again, there are members here who frequent both sites. Let's respect that and keep responses supportive to all.

From this point, let's contribute to the original topic to avoid upset with supportive responses. Also, from this point, if a response isn't supportive to all I won't hesitate to edit responses and send the member a PM...something I would prefer not to do.

Back to the original topic...

I'm glad BT is up for those who need, use and depend on it. I have concerns regarding the site due to the many problems and hope they're resolved soon in a lasting way....for the members.

KD

kimmydawn 05-17-2007 12:48 PM

I should clarify...

My post was not meant to any one particular member who has posted to this thread, but to any (recent posters to it and not) considering posting as reading it might about some strong feelings.

We just need to get it back to topic to avoid more difficult, hurt, and potential defensiveness.

If you want to respond to personal comments made, PM is a great avenue for that. :)

Thanks,

KD

artist 05-17-2007 12:49 PM

I just had to share...
 
Thanks KD! Yup, it's back up and even I, with my steam-powered computer can get it. So...as you were, men.

I just had to mention this, ...:ROTFLMAO: ..I just looked at a thread there (BT) and nearly fell off my chair laughing - at the top of the page, under that flower border is a huge full-width google ad for...yes!...
NeuroTalk Communities.
-----> wiping away the tears ...so...so much for the ******s in place of NT links (yes, that was me, not the censor).

Anyway, glad people can log in and load there now, and I see the captain has finally boarded his boat. Maybe the ship will sail again....

all the best.

Thelma 05-17-2007 01:02 PM

Well now ladies let a cooler head here prevail lol

Braintalk held the promise of being far more than it turned out to be and JL encouraged many or really a few there to be honest to almost worship him. remember the picture he provided with the long hair and the belt around his waist as if to be a fierce fighter for our rights and standing looking at the sky from a long row of steps.

Thats the propoganda that was perpetuated ther right up to the time he left MGH and went on his own. I say his own but the staff there are his board on Braintalk to this day.

Well it will be hard for those who were so cruelly fooled to give up the dream and many of them still post there.

They are not any different than us save they may take longeer to leave. remember none of us left voluntarily. some were so disillusioned they left and some were too vocal to the new lord and master and he banned them and others leaving were the result of the site being abandoned by John for so long as to let Doc see the need and the advantage to set up this site.

There were no angels at Braintalk and there are none here including the moderators and Doc himself.

We all are only human beings trying to find and make the best for ourselves and anyone who needs this site for themselves.

I don't set out to anger anyone, but I sue do, nor do I try andhurt feelings but I do that as well. sometimes I don't even see the response until much later to even know it. But that is the way it goes on the net.

Myself I do't think there are friends to be made on line. Maybe off ine but not on line. when you talk here you talk to hundreds and in that many differing opinions there is no way not to ager some or hurt some. It is just impossible for me to try and "talk" to one person. It is in the following posts that the responses can turn against you with the multitude of varying responses, don't let it throw such a personal curve at you.

I just read them and if I feel a response in me I do so or I just leave it there and before long there will be someone sharing mine or anothers opinion and it goes from there.

Take these posts as an opinion and not personally and this site will work for all of us.

I myself have a hard time reading all of lthe posts from the moderators and not responding to them but I personally hope this site will in time get to big for them to post so often unless it is really serious to do so.

But that is me. And while I don't like it I can see there point as they seem to talke it personal as well. It is human to be like this. they see something reflecting them or the site and the them disolves and the moderator takes it over.

Very hard to be both a member nd a mod but they do it as best as each one of them can and tha is all that can be hoped for.

the main problem with Braintalk is John either didn't see what was happening or how he was being used and fell into a trap set for him and now has to either face up or leave. His choice of moderator was wrong and it will take him where he did not want to go and I believe doesn't to this day understand why he is where he is.

Things can happen and you have to go with it. I still go to BT as there are many people there who I have posted with for the last almlost 7 years and I have abandoned the site but I will not abandon the people there.

this is to me Braintalk2 and a lot of lthe same people I knew there are here. Some have changed their names but you get to recognize them with their writings and that's okay if they want it that way. I even thought of going that route but decided not to.

So whether this is BT2 or Neurotalk it is what is. For me a Neurological disease and conditions related forum.

Because that is what I want it to be. That is what it was created for as a temporary site for the BT commnity and as such should continue to be or lose it's honor in it's existence.

Okay were here and this is where it is going to happen in the future for us all so forget the lilttle innuendos of posts being edited or changed and the constant reminders to be "nice". We are grown adult human beings and we know the manners of today and yesterday and as human beings we are kind and mean and generous and at times downright irritable.

Not me of course lol lol lol lo

lSo this is it for the immediate future and I sure hope we make it this time.

Sounds like a song [Didn't we almost make it last time] Well we will this time.

Damn that song will haunt me now all day lol

Lara 05-17-2007 02:02 PM

Well, I hope my posts didn't cause all this fuss. Sometimes I get the feeling it's ok for everyone else to say whatever they want but the moment I open my silly mouth all heck breaks loose. :D

Have a great evening everyone. New morning here where I live and it sure looks good!

Anyone up for a cuppa tea?

:rm_milk:

Chemar 05-17-2007 02:08 PM

Lara, you are an asset to any forum you are on :hug:

:grouphug: everyone

onward and forward!

kimmydawn 05-17-2007 02:18 PM

:) Lara

My post wasn't intended for any one person, action, or statement.

It was just that the thread was taking a certain direction and wasn't correcting itself, so I wanted to try to help that along...for all members.

We're a great group of ppl...people with feelings, opinions and experiences...all of us.

KD

Lara 05-17-2007 02:52 PM

G'day KD,
Yes, I know your post wasn't directed at me. It was just my observation after going to sleep and coming back and reading the rest of the posts. lol I'm more of a fire stopper than a fire starter. I was just throwing a little water around.

Absolutely no worries this end. Happy as a lark. Well, a lark with a broken wing maybe.

Chemar my high school motto was "Forth with Courage". It was actually in Latin but that's what it meant. Actually our school badge was very modern. It had a rocket ship on it and that was before man landed on the moon.

:Tip-Hat:

Alffe 05-17-2007 02:54 PM

Now Lara, don't be throwing the water around...I thot it was rationed. :p

And what happened to your wing? :hug:

who moi 05-17-2007 03:28 PM

I am offended...

I am offended when people are offended by me...when they misunderstand me...

I am offended when people look at me funny, when they think I look funny...

I am offended when people tease me...because they think I like being teased...

I am offended when people say when either the left or the right are evil....when both are or are not...

OK, those above are NOT directed at anyone...but it opens the door to a few things I'd like to share...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I have tics...you know, barking like a dog, twitches, eye blinks, spits, blah blah blah...

it is funny how people would look at me and make assumptions...they think:

1: this guy is retarded, my mom would be asked if "I" was retarded(while they point at me asking my mother)

2: this guy is "funny" with all the noises he makes

3: this guy is winking at me, what a jerk!! (from the ladies, usually...and a guy named Bubba, LOL)

4: this guy is spitting in public!! What a nasty (___@___)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There was a time when I would get offended, hurt, angry, really mad, and then, I'd feel the need to shoot these people...don't worry, I won't...

but then I realized that in this world, the thing that leads to most the arguments, offensiveness, wars, bickerments, battles are usually stemmed from this ONE thing: miscommunication

everyone of us are probably ignorant about something at some point...

that is OK...as long as we are open to being "educated" or "communicated with"
I think that is OK?

people are passionate about their religions, politics, beliefs and everything else. It doesn't really make one person badder or better than the other/next person.

so, I'd like to lay out this question as a challenge to everyone...

let's say you are a Bush hater or a Clinton hater. And yes, they've done bad things. Does anyone REALLY REALLY think that they want the WORST for their country and their country men/women?

Step back a second before you answer this and please don't use the simple answer "Yes, he wants the worst for their country!"

think about it carefully and ask yourselves this other question.

While you may disagree with their policy (and I do with many of their issues, by the way) does that make them "bad" people or "evil" people? (Doody, hold your thoughts here, I know you hate all republicans. LMAO...)

the truth is, NO! They are NOT evil. Bush isn't evil just like Clinton isn't evil either, they may be (_@_)'s...but that's whole another subject...I believe that they are passionate about what they BELIEVE in in that they are RIGHT about the path that the country should take. And that passion is often disagree by the "other side" that is also passionate about their own views. Thus the two passionate yet opposite parties argue and fight over the very same thing...

Remember when Clinton and the Older Bush got together to speak for the Hurricane Katrina victims to help raise money?

now, keep that point in mind and then think about how heated it was when the democrats and the republicans went at eachothers throats(they still do and always will, and that goes for any political parties)yet, when tragedy struck, everyone in both parties were able to come together and let go of the arguments and debate because they DO care deep inside because of their passion to the people...


the two very different Presidents who are very passionate about their own political parties were able to throw away their difference to come together to aid the victims, why? Because behind all the political non-sense. They TRULY care!

Yes, there are bad seeds in all political parties...I am not referring to those people. I am referring to those that truly believe in what they believe in and this next word "compassionate" about what they believe in.

And while people may disagree with what they are compassionate about. You can't take the passions out of it....

So, it comes down to this...as I step back and read all of your comments. I see one thing...EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE is compassionate and passionate about this issue...

yes, there are old feelings being hurt, new feelings being hurt. But it all comes down to because we all CARE....that's all...actually, we are all talking about the same thing, really...

if there were a hurricane tomorrow here in the U.S. Then those that are else where in other countries (that come to this forum)would jump right in to do all that they can to help the U.S. no matter the differences.

If there were to be a crisis in England, Australia, or NZ , or any other countries tomorrow, those of us that are in this country that visit this forum would do anything they can to help. I've seen it...with my own eyes and ears...(well, I can't see with my ears, but you get the photo?? LOL)

I know a lot of personal stories because (this is where I disagree with Thelma about not making friends on line, respectively though) I know a lot of these folks personally. I am only going to speak for the folks that I know personally and have met...and I am NOT saying this to say that they are more special than anyone. But just what I've seen...I've seen it! Compassion? YES! Do I always agree with them? NOOOOOO!!!! But I know that deep inside, they do! They love and they CARE and they are deeply passionate about what they believe in!

now, let's talk about the folks that I haven't met in person...
let's take the mods, for example. Curious, she has tons on her plate, but I see her here giving support and some of them are pretty silly ones, but because people know that she cares, it doesn't matter. I see jo55 ubiquitously to offer her support as much as she can as well to any in need. Chemar going around being the peace keeper and reminding us why we are here...Kimmy dawn's over all loving grace and that she usually have the final words(thus the thread killer. LOL)

OK, these folks above I haven't met, but I've seen their names around and they are truly supportive.

And then there are all these other names, too many to delve into. As I do a search on where you post and what you have posted. My gosh, you all are compassionate wonderful folks!! And I applaud you for your hearts and your passions about what you truly believe in!

And that is where COMPASSIONs and PASSIONS can turn into heated debates about what we all care about...which is usually the same thing(s)...

SO, OK, a lot of folks got heated over this, cool. Sometimes, we need to vent...but then, let's go back and look at this again...was anyone wrong in their views? NO...because that IS their view and they can and have the right to their views. Sometimes, it just gets misinterpreted. Nobody really wants to hurt anyone except for an evil few, but I don't think that they(evil ones) are around here...

perspectives can be a difficult thing...

"an Indian Prince brought an elephant to his court, he brought in five blind men. The first blind man touched the elephant's nose;The second, the elephant's ears; the third, the elephant's body; the fourth, the elephant's feet; the fifth, the elephant's tail.

None of them got to feel the whole elephant.

The prince then brought them in one by one and asked them to described what an "elephant" is:

each gave the description of what he felt.

but remember, they are still describing an elephant. It is just a different perspective."

Now, someone will read what I've wrote above and say this: I think who moi is calling us blind...

and that will be ok, that will be their perspective...as long as they let me know and are willing to let me explain back that I am NOT calling them blind...just (_@_)'s. LOL

alrighty...now, I am not lecturing...I am asking everyone to look behind the names...and see what flows out...we are all compassionate about this place and BT..it is human nature...

my own two cents on John Lester isn't that he doesn't care...I think he does, or at least he did at one point. I think he got tired of it, just like a lot of people would. If he really really didn't care. He'd just let the whole BT thing shut down, to be honest with you...

but I do think that he has slacked off thus have let some of those mods run amok over there with over banning and such...and that, is why a lot of us are here...right???

But there ARE still real human beings over there...they are there because they feel safe, they feel it is HOME...I know that while I really like it here...I still feel like I've lost my "HOME" there,even though I am rebuilding it over here...

I lost my real house due to hurricane Floyd back in 1999. 10 feet of sludge went into my house, I slept in hog/chicken poops for 3 days...I left heartbrokened...

but now, I have a new home, with my new lovely wife...but it still have to be BUILD...

let's build this place...let's support the other place(for those that want to)

yes, people are allowed to love or hate Lester. That is fine...but there are tons of people there...lost, needing support, needing love...

let's have that compassion for them...

the above post is meant for all the smurfs and not for anyone else...

and I am going back to retirement...

sincerely(very very sincerely and I will apologize in advance if this offends anyone, it is not meant to, but if you are offended, that will offend me and we'll have to duke it out in private. LOL)

moi

Snoopy 05-17-2007 03:36 PM

What a wonderful post Who moi;)

kimmydawn 05-17-2007 03:37 PM

I don't know you, moi, but with this one post I know a couple of things about you...you are WISE and A BEAUTIFUL SOUL.

It's a pleasure getting to know you.

KD

Alffe 05-17-2007 03:39 PM

Do not encourage that man! you will live to regret it! :D

Thelma 05-17-2007 03:46 PM

Oh I hope it is who I think it is...............................

Lara 05-17-2007 04:47 PM

Moi and his wife are two of those special souls I met and spent time with when I travelled 1/2 way around the world way back in '98. I think I mentioned my amazing trips in one of my posts above somewhere.

Moi, we don't have Walmart here... yet. It'll be here any moment I'm sure, but meanwhile everytime I go to KMart I think of you. :D I think of you other times as well of course.

Alffe, long story about the wing.
Now I'm feeling all sentimental. :cool:

'There's a pale light in the east
All the stars are in the west
Oh, here's to all the dreamers
May our open hearts find rest
'Cuz the wing & the wheel
Are gonna carry us along
And we'll have memories for company
Long after the songs are sung'
~ The Wing and the Wheel - Nanci Griffith

Doody 05-17-2007 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who moi (Post 101054)
While you may disagree with their policy (and I do with many of their issues, by the way) does that make them "bad" people or "evil" people? (Doody, hold your thoughts here, I know you hate all republicans. LMAO...)

:thud: Okay, someone needs to pinch and pull this guy's ears. :rolleyes: It just so happens I know at least 1 republican I adore. So there. :p

Doody 05-17-2007 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thelma (Post 100975)
Well now ladies let a cooler head here prevail lol

:thud:

Okay, now...we have 2 here who need their ears pulled. Thelma, you goofball! I say we get Thelma over there in S. Carolina, get the rest of us back there for another vacation, and have one big group ear pulling. Then Moi can cook for us while Thelma tells him how he should be doing it. LOL Course, we should have KD, Chemar, Jo and Curious there to keep us from getting too out of line.

:mf_swordfight:

Curious 05-17-2007 10:28 PM

i'll bring the brownies doody. :D

:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

kimmydawn 05-17-2007 11:04 PM

Heck, you get me outside of here with brownies and someone will have to keep ME in line. ;)

I can get pretty wild, I'll have you know. I've been known to stay up till three a.m. even! ;) That's all I'm telling and will plead the fifth on the rest...LOL.

hehe.

KD

kimmydawn 05-18-2007 12:04 AM

Back to the original topic...

You're welcome.

Again, I'm glad BT is fully functional for the many that use and need it. I do have concerns for those same people that it keeps having difficulties, and will continue to welcome and help in any way that I can...as I can.

With respect,

KD

who moi 05-18-2007 02:50 AM

I just wanted to come back and make sure I didn't offend anyone. LOL

and to let you all know that I truly care and that I thank you all, for being who you are...

May I offer a group hug??

And I sincerely offer this...if you all would like to come here to visit, we would be honored and I will BBQ for you all...

:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: (I am known as the yellow one that likes to pinch the other ones (_!_)'s)

Alffe 05-18-2007 04:51 AM

I just love these drive bys....or are they fly bys? :rolleyes:

Aren't you supposed to be working 24/7 ....:D

Have you noticed that your ears are getting longer? :hug:

Doody 05-18-2007 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimmydawn (Post 101313)
Back to the original topic...

You're welcome.

Again, I'm glad BT is fully functional for the many that use and need it. I do have concerns for those same people that it keeps having difficulties, and will continue to welcome and help in any way that I can...as I can.

With respect,

KD

Me too. It's frustrating when your favorite sites are down. :grouphug:

Thelma 05-18-2007 10:45 AM

Don't ask me why I am posting this as I don't know why. I just feel like it.

I have this up in front of my computer to remind me of the times when I have seen my family and friends forget that it is themselves who have to pick up the pieces and move on when anything happens to disrupt their lives be it love or illnesses or just the long labor of living each day.


Love after Love

by Derek Wilson

The time will come
when, with elation,
you will greet yourself arriving
at your own door, in your own mirror,
and each will smile at the others welcome.

and say, sit here, Eat.
you will love again the stranger who was yourself.
Give wine. give bread. give back your heart
to itself, to the stranger who has loved you

all your life, whom you ignored
for another, who knows you by heart.
Take down the love letters from the bookshelf,

the photographs, the desperate notes,
peel your image from the mirror.
Sit. Feast on your life.

kimmydawn 05-18-2007 11:04 AM

Whether you know why you had to post that or not, I do.

Thank you for following that inner voice...I needed to read that.

KD

Alffe 05-18-2007 05:16 PM

So did I KD.....thank you Thelma. (I'd hug you but am afraid it would tick you off. *grin)


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