[mollymcn]

It's complicated, and while I'm not a lawyer, I'll try and explain what I've learned over the years in dealing with this issue online...

If you post a copyrighted work here for "educational or research purposes," it may be allowed under Fair Use. But we'd greatly prefer that whenever possible, you simply link to where you found the article online, because that is completely allowed and won't ever get us into trouble (whereas posting copyrighted works here may).

Thanks,
DocJohn

Hmm - I AM a copyright lawyer, and also a former health law professor. I am a big advocate of disseminating medical information to patients, and internet boards are the primary way of doing so because doctors are no longer the first source of information about health and illness.(sorry Doc!) What you said about #1 and #2 is exactly right ... HOWEVER in regards to your paragraph about posting copyrighted works While I would not want to get Neurotalk "in trouble," I would argue vigorously that attaching a PDF article (as I just did in the RSD community) falls under Fair Use because it is purely for educational use for sick people in a nonprofit noncommercial setting .

Hello,

I fully agree with the warning about respecting copyright, which is a matter of law. Another important issue is plagiarism which is an ethical matter. I have not observed any problem with either of these on this forum.

If you want to find out what happened to another forum, where blatant wholesale copyright theft and plagiarism was allowed, you are invited to visit my web site; URL at end of this message.

Select the link in the orange banner at the top of The B12 Betrayal Home Page, then select the Copyright Theft or Plagiarism in the new menu on the left.

Paul

[Wiix]

Originally Posted by DocJohn

Generally we frown upon the wholesale copying and pasting of copyrighted articles found elsewhere on the Net, especially if they are publicly available articles.

When we're made aware of such copyright violations, we're required by law to remove the offending article.

If you'd like to post something about an article you find online, please feel free to go and post a short summary of the article (or an abstract, or the first paragraph or the like), along with a link to the full article for folks to read if they're interested.

Please refrain from posting entire copyrighted articles without first obtaining the author's explicit written permission. Exceptions can be made for articles that are behind pay walls and are for educational or research purposes, but these should be few and far between.

Thank you for your cooperation!
DocJohn

Fair Use Allows you too post up to 65 words. Just include the link where you get it. So what's the problem??? Copy and Paste the relevant part up to 65 words ONLY.

[DocJohn]

Actually, from my understanding of the case law that defines "Fair use," there is no word limit on what constitutes "fair use." If an article is 65 words long, and you copy the entire thing, that is not fair use (unless you're doing so for educational or research purposes). Without getting technical, there are a number of factors a court would look at to determine whether the use is "fair" or not. Percentage copied (usually less than 10%), is one of those factors.

As mollymcn, there very well may be appropriate exceptions for educational or research purposes here, but we drew up our guidelines to strike an easy balance between what is easy for others to understand and to set a guideline that is readily followed.

DocJohn

[tinglytoes]

Originally Posted by DocJohn

Generally we frown upon the wholesale copying and pasting of copyrighted articles found elsewhere on the Net, especially if they are publicly available articles.

When we're made aware of such copyright violations, we're required by law to remove the offending article.

If you'd like to post something about an article you find online, please feel free to go and post a short summary of the article (or an abstract, or the first paragraph or the like), along with a link to the full article for folks to read if they're interested.

Please refrain from posting entire copyrighted articles without first obtaining the author's explicit written permission. Exceptions can be made for articles that are behind pay walls and are for educational or research purposes, but these should be few and far between.

Thank you for your cooperation!
DocJohn

Hi DocJohn, I found this link fascinating and easy to understand. Quite extensive in scope and indispensable for responsible and proactive protective measures for those on multiple long term drug use. Fairly up to date; food indexes; interactions, warning combinations; and nutritional status of problematic nutrients or lack thereof. I hope you will post this in the appropriate link for me. I also would like to know if you have seen this before or not? With respect and warm regards to all..

[Chemar]

hello tinglytoes

this thread is related to our copyright guidelines so not too sure what you are asking? I also could not find the document you mention?

if that is a useful site related to medications, I would suggest that once your membership status allows you to post links, you add it to the useful websites sticky thread on our medications forum, or if it is something that you wanted to draw to DocJohn's attention specifically, you could PM it to him

[jkl626]

I want to post some pdfs of aticles for my forum but they are all too big. does anyone know how to compress them or make them smaller> I use a mac. Thanks,
jkl

[Jomar]

[How do I post PDF's
I want to post some pdfs of aticles for my forum but they are all too big. does anyone know how to compress them or make them smaller> I use a mac. Thanks,
jkl ]

Originally Posted by DocJohn

Generally we frown upon the wholesale copying and pasting of copyrighted articles found elsewhere on the Net, especially if they are publicly available articles.

When we're made aware of such copyright violations, we're required by law to remove the offending article.

If you'd like to post something about an article you find online, please feel free to go and post a short summary of the article (or an abstract, or the first paragraph or the like), along with a link to the full article for folks to read if they're interested.

Please refrain from posting entire copyrighted articles without first obtaining the author's explicit written permission. Exceptions can be made for articles that are behind pay walls and are for educational or research purposes, but these should be few and far between.

Thank you for your cooperation!
DocJohn

As long as they don't violate any copyright rules, and if they aren't available for online viewing via a link , I believe breaking them into sections and posting each section as post in the same thread.

If it is linked somewhere online that would be the easiest way to share.

[jkl626]

Originally Posted by Jo*mar

[How do I post PDF's
I want to post some pdfs of aticles for my forum but they are all too big. does anyone know how to compress them or make them smaller> I use a mac. Thanks,
jkl ]




As long as they don't violate any copyright rules, and if they aren't available for online viewing via a link , I believe breaking them into sections and posting each section as post in the same thread.

If it is linked somewhere online that would be the easiest way to share.

These are articles that have been published in medical journals that I have ordered through my local medical library. Are they copywrite protected?
Thanks
from the local medical library

[Jomar]

It should be on the top or bottom of the pages, or check with the library to make sure.
I'd hate to see you go to all the trouble of getting it posted and us finding out it is copyrighted and having to remove it.

Or if you do a web search on the title & author , names, dates and such something should come up and maybe then you can find out if it is copyrighted or not.

Many papers & articles are fine to copy & keep for your own personal use, but when you post, or distribute it, that is where the legal factors come into play.