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Lara 09-30-2011 11:55 PM

ugh, how awful. Hope you get it sorted fast.

[I use a mobile broadband USB Modem for internet connection. I have had to get two new sim cards during the past couple of years for my modem as during some computer issues they totally stopped functioning.]

mrsD 10-02-2011 02:07 PM

The Microsoft rescue disk found 4 severe threats:

Exploit: Java/CVE-2010-0840.DW , .EW , .BF , .DZ

He removed them with the Essentials disk, and all showed "severe". Appears it came off a website using Java.

However, all .exe programs are still not working, and Restore will not go.

We are still looking for answers, but may have to reformat the drive and reinstall Windows and use the system restore discs which we made, and restore files with the Backup.

Last attempt is an AVG download to CD ... still scanning with that.
If it fails to find the culprit that sneaked in with java... it will be a full system wipe and restore. :(

heebeejeebee 10-02-2011 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chemar (Post 810962)
I have stopped using all the adaware etc and only use the free Microsoft Security Essentials now, which has everything needed all in one (Firewall, anti ad/malware and antivirus etc etc)

The Windows firewall comes bundled with the Windows Operating System and using it isn't dependent on having Security Essentials installed.

There's a freeware frontend to the firewall called Windows 7 Firewall Control that works with Windows 7 and XP put out by Sphinx Software that gives you added control over what programs can and cannot have incoming and outgoing access to the internet that I like.

Google Sphinx Software Windows 7 Firewall Control if you're interested.

It doesn't hurt to run another program like MalwareBytes to double check to make sure MSE doesn't miss anything.


mrsD, you might as well reformat and be done with it. That way you have a clean start with a clean machine.

tnthomas 10-05-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heebeejeebee (Post 811428)
The Windows firewall comes bundled with the Windows Operating System and using it isn't dependent on having Security Essentials installed.

There's a freeware frontend to the firewall called Windows 7 Firewall Control that works with Windows 7 and XP put out by Sphinx Software that gives you added control over what programs can and cannot have incoming and outgoing access to the internet that I like.

Google Sphinx Software Windows 7 Firewall Control if you're interested.

It doesn't hurt to run another program like MalwareBytes to double check to make sure MSE doesn't miss anything.


mrsD, you might as well reformat and be done with it. That way you have a clean start with a clean machine.

+1, malware often masquerades as legitimate system files, making manual removal difficult and risky.

Always have personal files backed up off the computer and preferably off-site. I have all my family pictures backed up on a 32GB USB drive, which I leave off-site in my locker @work. That way, if my house burns down, at least it won't get that copy of irreplaceable files. ;)

mrsD 10-09-2011 06:47 AM

Update:

Well... this Win7 computer has a partition on the very large harddrive....that is hidden. Because of it, the restore system discs would not run. I guess those are for new harddrive installation.

During the discussion with our son on the phone, they discovered this hidden spot, and used "image restore" from it, and now the computer is totally wiped. This must be a "reformat" feature? McAffe is now running again (it expired and we had avast on it) so next task is to do something with the virus protection. I want him to try the Microsoft Essentials Chemar recommends, but he found on Consumer Reports, that AVG was the best they tested. :Dunno:

Anyway my partition is gone. All the icons are gone except for 6 or 8 of them. The default wallpaper is on it. And it will connect now to the internet. He had no success with restore to a "date" prior to the crash. But neither he or my son understood this "image restore".

I know I sound incredibly dense about this, but does this mean everything is truly gone? Or is it lurking in the background, or partitioned off in the harddrive someplace?

Next task is to restore some programs. We have discs for my stuff but we don't know if Word was lost, yet. Word came already installed. So hubby is going to futz with the backup and see what comes back. He thinks he made a clone in the beginning. But he seems relieved that at least he got on the net.

I guess when this computer --the old Dell tower/desktop "goes" to cyber heaven, I will get a new one JUST FOR ME! I don't think I'll ever understand Win 7 or by the time I do it, Win 8. Maybe I should get a MAC like my son nags me to do? :o:p :Dunno:

Jomar 10-09-2011 12:54 PM

I think the hidden partition is for restoring, but they usually want you to make a back up of those files in case the whole hard drive or main board goes bad and you can't access those files at all..
since the drive was OK, then using the files to restore is the way to do it.

The are free file recovery programs that can even find files after a format- as long as it wasn't a multi secure format/encryption kind.
I usually look on cnet.com for many prgms. you can choose free, then editor ratings , user ratings... and many have reviews at the bottom of the page.

http://download.cnet.com/1770-20_4-0...tsTile;navForm


That's why it is important to not do a regular generic format on a drive and sell it, give it away or donate it.
keep old drive, destroy them- magnets/hammer:rolleyes: or do heavy secure multi encrypted wipes. then try a recovery pgm to see if you can access any old info.

mrsD 10-09-2011 02:03 PM

Thanks, Jo. Hubby is going to look there.

I don't have much on that computer, if anything. I have a copy of my main file that I use on the net, but I rarely use that computer so no new things have been added to it. My original is on this machine and my own back up. I really don't like using that Win7 so I avoid it. It should be easy for him to do. The only thing he seems to have lost unless it is on the backup upstairs are is YouTube videos he likes to watch.

What a battle... Now I have to look for old Java files, that a reference site said to get rid of. The Exploit virus uses them to work itself. The MS advice site said to get rid of old java scripts...but I'll have our son look that over.

http://www.microsoft.com/security/po...VE-2010-0840.W

mrsD 10-09-2011 03:34 PM

Removing old Java updates:
 
Here from the Java website:

http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/...erversions.xml

This is important to prevent EXPLOIT virus/trojans from invading your machine. They may bypass your antivirus...they did ours!

I looked in my desktop and I have over TEN of them!

The newest version is Java 27. I don't have that one yet. My last one is 26, but since this machine is OLD, I have so so many here!

mrsD 10-09-2011 03:46 PM

When I clicked on the Java security link I posted above, it had a subdivision, which I clicked, and it read my cookies and told me what to delete! How nice is that?

Quote:

We have detected the following old versions of Java that are installed on your system:

Java 2 Runtime Environment, SE v1.4.2_03
J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 2
J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 6
J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 9
J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 10
J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 11
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 6
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 1
Java(TM) 6 Update 2
Java(TM) 6 Update 3
Java(TM) 6 Update 4
Java(TM) 6 Update 5
Java(TM) 6 Update 7

These should be removed to maintain your system security.
So I have no qualms now about doing so. Also before this popped up, I did update to version 6 update 27. Maybe that is how they knew what I had? duh?

This is the link with directions to XP and Vista/Win 7
http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp

edit: Okay I did it... removed all that were suggested. This left 3 others and the new version 27 I just downloaded,-- I checked. By going to Java it was pretty straightforward. It would be nice if we KNEW this had to be done! duh? :rolleyes: BTW you have to reboot completely to get the uninstalled files to totally go away. That is done too.

bent98 10-17-2011 07:58 AM

Install malewarebytes also for your spyware removal. ITs free and its better then some of the other ones like adware.


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