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Originally Posted by megveg (Post 337694)

theres a website called Ruckus (http://www.ruckus.com/) and it says you can download free music for college students with a student email. I havent tried it (i dont have my student email yet but in a few weeks) and im going to see how it works out.

i hope its legit.

Well Meg, I hope it's legit too -- but if it's not, it may not last very long. There is a new bill being introduced that will take away funding for higher education institutions who don't comply with the law:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2326961,00.asp

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Originally Posted by Bearygood (Post 337471)

It is SO inexpensive to download from legitimate sites like iTunes, etc. There are a lot of other ones as well. There are also places like Rhapsody, where for a monthly subscription fee you can listen all you want and then purchase if you so decide.

I try to avoid getting into heated conversations about this (my work involves intellectual property) but I want to point out that this really is STEALING. Plain and simple. When you steal music or movies you are hurting the very people who created it and inhibiting them from making a living. It's not just about big companies -- to me, they're the very smallest part of it.

Of course, I can't stop anyone from doing this but just know that if you do, someone out there is being hurt.

Well, maybe now you see why I try to avoid these types of discussions. I just want to add that I think it's so very sad that it's come to this. It really was not a problem before the digital age -- again, because of the concept of distribution -- it's very easy now. Specifically re: music, there were always bootlegs and yes, I own a few! I looked at them mostly as a fan "extra" and often used them to turn a friend onto an artist I liked. That is why I used the word "intention" in my last post. I really wish it were that simple now but unfortunately, it's not. I think it's such a shame that all of this had to become a legal matter.

Let your conscience be your guide...

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Originally Posted by Bearygood (Post 337718)

I don't doubt it at all.

I'm not sure if it was technically "legal" but yes, we all did it. However, it didn't present the problem it does today. And -- it is a question of DISTRIBUTING it. It is illegal to distribute if you are not the legal owner or have permission

that's true. And I think I meant to use another word other than legal. "Bear" with me. My English isn't the greatest and I suck at conveying my thoughts. LOL

as far as distribution goes, it goes back to the owner. We've known folks that wanted us to give others their music in hopes that they will buy their future music or even the current one. But back then, we have more honor system than we do now...

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Originally Posted by Bearygood (Post 337718)

For the most part, people don't buy what they can get for free.

I think this depends on what it is...I think people WANT to own their own UNIQUE things. Just like I'd rather own my own clothes than a hand me down. But there is truth to what you say, it is the media that has been throwing at us. MP3 files, ipods, CD-R's, technology is so advanced that we are just wondering, why not?

But last I checked, Eagles last album sold very well still and I already saw advanced MP3's on many sites that have already served it as P2P yet it didn't deter the sales??

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Originally Posted by Bearygood (Post 337718)

The law is pretty clear but even I agree that to a certain extent there's a middle ground. In the most simplified terms, it's related to intention.

true...but law is also clear about drugs, but I've seen coke houses and drug houses that every cops drive by and know where it is....

you are right about intent...:)

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Originally Posted by Bearygood (Post 337718)

There's TONS of good music out there that you don't know about. It's out there but it's not easy to find because access to the public is limited.

Gosh, you'd think with the internet today that it WOULD be out there for moi to find them? LOLOL

Thanks, bearygood...you are always refreshing to read!

:D

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Originally Posted by Bearygood (Post 337723)

LOL Bearygood, I think you have brought up many good points!!

I enjoyed it! :D

It is just like speeding...name ONE person that didn't do a 46 in a 45...

;)

:hug:

LOL. Glad you enjoyed it. Me? I am now tired, LOL. Perhaps I'll respond to your other points later with some explanations but the truth is, I don't think we are very far from the same page. Kind of like "one ruins it for all".

I love your analogy about the speed limit. :)

well, I have to disagree about "buying" into something...LOL I really try to look at the big picture...

When I was younger, I was involved in a few projects myself so I am not totally blind or unsympathetic to the companies...

record stores are hurting also because of what's availabe out there on the internet.

LEGIT sites offer MP3 downloads. IPODS sales are on the rise.

When one go and download music from a site onto their pods, I don't think record stores are going to be able to compete??

I BELIEVE the creators SHOULD be compensated...I've said that I WOULD buy music if it is good...:)

I want to make it clear that I am NOT condoning music downloading, but I will admit that I have downloaded a few myself. I don't anymore...

like you say, it is with intent...

I think I have my points about the record industry and such cause my youngest brother worked in such field...but as you've said, this perhaps is not the best place to go into it. But once again. I enjoyed it! :D

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Originally Posted by Bearygood (Post 337718)

Well, both the record AND film industry IS hurting as compare to the profit they once made. But forget the big companies' bottom lines themselves -- people are losing jobs. On the music side artists, producers, songwriters and their representatives ARE hurting. Record stores are barely existent anymore. I could go on but honestly, your assessment of what happens behind the scenes is absolutely incorrect. The people you don't see and the creators you never hear of. By making the comment you did above, you're completely buying into why these sites tell you it's okay and it's a big bunch of baloney. If you don't believe creators should be compensated for their work, that's another story. But if you do, plesae understand that when the companies don't get paid, they don't either.

Re: YouTube, there is a huge crackdown. The large companies continue to go after YouTube and/or make deals with them. There are many sponsored sites up on YouTube now by music, television and film companies.

As for putting out crap, it is definitely related but it's a whole 'nother conversation...

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Originally Posted by Bearygood (Post 337731)

I am with you, I think we are on the same page basically...*biggrin....

will get off my soapbox now....

LOL

Are we running for office?????? ;)

before I log off,

I wanted to say that this has been one of the most stimulating thing I did today...

thanks for what you've posted...I am an open person and will take what you've posted to heart and know that I don't have all the answers and that you have opened doors for me...:)

I really really appreciated it, Bearygoody....:D

have a great weekend

:D

Thank you, who moi. I appreciate that. And the same to you for being willing to see the another side -- a side that I think is very easily cloaked.

Have a great night! :)

Have mercy, who gave him a double espresso?

My niece depends on royalties from albums and movie sales. She is not famous, not rich, and not paid unless there are sales. She is a studio vocalist among thousands of other "hidden" musicians and artists trying to earn a living in a tough business. Downloading "free" music is taking food off my baby's table.