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Old 12-28-2008, 02:23 PM #21
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Wait...you mean I can just hook up another regular modem....like the extra Speed Stream one I have?

I already have a Lyksys wireless router. It's just not hooked up.
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Old 12-28-2008, 02:27 PM #22
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huh?

no, just ONE modem...

but that modem you have might be subpar...IE, the amount of hrtz it has...

cable to modem, modem to router....

one modem, two modems mean TWO prices. LOL

what I am thinking is that the modem that they gave you is an old slow one...

you can usually buy a modem of similar model (refurb) that all the wires are "crossed" and works faster, it COULD be that....or it could be just the modem itself....

usually, a modem provided by the company themselves are refurb, older models....and they have the nerve to try to sell those things...

I would look up what model number, what type it is...if you want to, let me know and I'll do a search on it for ya.

is the linksys G band?

I am thinking maybe you should start your own thread so we'll stop hide yakking river's thread...
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I need to back way up here.

I have the DSL modem plugged into my computer and the phone line. Can Lil'Monkey just plug into the phone line in her room and get internet?LOL. She hasn't even tried that. Friends at school told her had to have a wireless router.
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no....LOL

it depends on the modem...

the newer modems might give you TWO ethernet cords (there are modem/router hybrids out there now). If that IS the case, then, YES, you can plug two computers in.

If it IS truly a modem/router hybrid, there is a likely chance that it might also be wireless, but it'll ususally say so...and I doubt it.

the ethernet cords look like phone jacks (I am sure you know this) but is BIGGER...

there are two types, Cat5 and Cat6. Cat6's are faster than cat5's...

what it looks like should be a cable co-axial (usually the round cable thing with a stick sticking out) to your modem.

Then, from your modem to your puter, is connected by ethernet cord.

They usually try to use red/yellowblue for the main connections for the routers and then white or grey for the conveyers(but usually don't make a difference in most cases)

if you have more then ONE ethernet connection in the back of your modem, you MIGHT be in luck so try running the other one to the laptop

if you only have ONE ethernet connection on your modem, then:

it goes from modem to router>>>>router splits it usually into 4 separate connections.

this is just for fun on how this works.

A router has its own gateway address, then you have your subnets IP address that are given by your routers. (this is good to know in case you are thinking about networking printers, you can go P2P printer or routing your printer,but that's another story for another time)

so, what's happening is the router is taking your modem's main IP address and splitting that and giving each one of your networks an individual address...

this is why security becomes important...(but that's another story)

if you have a modem with ONLY one ethernet cord, only ONE IP address is assigned there thus you cannot split that modem. A router will do that.

But if a modem is a hybrid, then it has that capability to give you another sub IP address...

LMAO....

I just realized what a geek/nerd I am...and how excited when I talk tech...gosh, I Need to get a life...LOLOLOL

PS. some newer Vonage modems also has two ethernet cords and can act as router....just an FYI
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River,

IF you get dsl in your area and decide to get it then by all means do so. if you want the dsl line so you can use a voip program. once on dsl there are many alternatives.

but first let me explain what dsl is....

dsl is a digital subscriber line. it uses the copper wires in the phone lines to send the digital signal to and from your house lines to the switch in the telephone companys switching station. ideally the closer you are to the central office and its main switch the better the signal. the further you get from the office the weaker the signal. the phone companies use repeater stations along its rout to amplify the signal so it can send the signal further away from the central office. in your case unless your within a couple of miles from the central office of the phone cpmany in your town chances are the lines in the ground near your housing do not have the capability to run dsl.

the phone company needs to install special switches under the ground in its stations where the wires are routed. other wise it wont work. you can still have your phone line but it doesnt mean it can be used for dsl....



so answer to question number one is yes. as the lines that make the dsl work belong to the pnone company you will more than likely need to pay for thier service to use thier lines. if they are also the isp who sells the dsl then you will need to pay them for it as well.

to answer question number two.


the voip services that let you call people using the internet are going through a broadband connection. which is not the dsl connection.

broadband uses coax cable and does not use the phone companies landlines it uses the cable lines.


to answer question number three is yes. most isps who sell you dsl also have a backup phone number for dial up just in case the dsl service drops.


unfortunately because you do live in a rural area the powers that be that do provide you with any service will get you coming and going as you say. me being a geek i pay the price for not living rurakky but would prefer to do so,


we all give up something to get something else.

if you choose to use a satalite service you will get a dsl download and a dialup upload. it is not symetrical. and from my experience with customers its a step up from dialup but stil better than nothing.

i hope this explains this for you ..

as far as the dsl router not a box... its best to use the one the isp provides cause if something oges wrong with it the service provider will give you telephone support and also support for the service. if you purchase your own then no support from the isp for anything. so the little amount you think you will save at the beginning you will end up spending ten fold on the backside.

it is sad when folks get bad tech suport from an offshore support technician. just remeber this.

if you pay a telephone bill then the telephone cmpany is responsible to fix them. its thier equipment. dont take no for a n answer. older lines can cause a lot of problems with dsl.






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curoius,


if you have att and dsl then your dsl service came with a dsl router. in order for your lil monkee to be able to use the internet let me know the following information.

1. the model number of the dsl router.

2. the model of the linksys router

3. the operating systems for the main computer the router goes to now and the operting system on the lil monkees new computer. and if possible the model number of the dell system also.

you can send these to me in a pm and i can assist you though email if you would like,



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