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Bryanna 02-20-2012 07:25 PM

Hi Jedijud,

I agree with the ENT doctor in that you need to have this situation taken care of as soon as you can.

With regard to your dental records.... legally the dentist that extracted your tooth has to turn over a copy of your written records and xrays if you make this request in writing. Any other dentist or physician that treats this condition knows the law and knows that the treating dentist has to comply with your written request.

As I stated previously, the original dentist is partially responsible for your current situation because she was neglectful by not informing you of the size and severity of the sinus opening and also she was a bit lax to say the least in performing the oral surgery properly to close the sinus OR refer you immediately to an oral surgeon.

As far as the severity of the infection.... there can be several reasons why it became that way and it is possible that she may be at some fault having to do with her surgical abilities and sterile technique... or there the lack of. You also could have had a severe infection to begin with which proliferated either during or immediately after the removal of the tooth.

At times, dentists make mistakes or perform below acceptable standards and when this has become obvious or it is brought to their attention, they usually will do whatever it takes to make amends with the patient. I would suggest that you request your records in writing and if possible state the day and time you will pick them up. Have the surgery done to remove the infection, pay the surgeon, and then take the bill to the original dentist and request that she at least reimburse you half of it. Or whatever amount you feel she should pay.

Again, I am sorry this has happened to you. It's such a shame that you have had such a bad experience. I hope you are able to get the help you need soon and I hope the original dentist takes responsibility of her actions.

Bryanna




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Originally Posted by Jedijud (Post 853761)
Hey thanks for answering briana I've misspelled your name I am sorry doing this on my break don't have much time.I seen the ear nose throat doctor today he said I need surgery ASAP costing me 880 I am aggravated as the dentist that I went to does not want to hand my records over?The person doing the surgery said I could save sum money by using the x rays they performed!The ent doctor said it's a very good sized hole and she should tried at least closed it up some.I have been taking antibiotics till I am blue in the face he said the tissue is rotted and will not grow back until the flesh has been removed.He looked me dead in the eye and said you haves very serious problem and it needs to be fixed.I am scared now this was suppose to a simple extract now I am 950 dollars in the hole and a rotting hole in my sinuses.Please help where did I go wrong will keep informed


Bryanna 02-20-2012 07:46 PM

Hello ginnie,

Yes, I am still here trying to help people.... as I see you are too!!

Glad to hear that your dental work went so well... yay!!! So you are wearing a nesbit... great! Did it need any adjustments? I am sure at your check ups your dentist will be monitoring those two last root canaled teeth. Glad you are aware and acknowledge their instability. That will make things easier for you in the future :)

I hope your check up shows more improvement in the gum health and you are on your way to easier dental visits in the future :)

Thanks so much for keeping us updated :)
Take care!

Bryanna



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Originally Posted by ginnie (Post 853807)
Glad you are still helping people. I thought to write and let you know how I turned out. I had cleaning done. No pockets at #5 all are reduced now to 3 or better. No lazer, just with gum numbing meds. I have a besnit, and I am very pleased with it. One tooth had decay under the crown. Crown replaced. another I had a fracture in the filling and had a crown on that one. so I am just about finished, and have been doing just fine. The cleaning was not a root scaling, rather just below the gum line, not bad at all. She doesn't like doing that scaling unless it is really severe, which mine was not. I will be back to her for a check up with my gums on the 28th. I hope for some more improvement. all is well, thank you for all you did for me. I got good resolution, and I won't be having any more root canals no matter what in the future. The long range out look for the two I have is not good and I know it. This dentist I found is indeed fantastic and has provided the very best of care. ginnie


ginnie 02-20-2012 07:52 PM

Hi Bryanna
 
Yes I am trying to help on the site too. Lots of people with spinal issues.
I did get #18 removed also. The other dentist wanted gum surgery, root canal and crown. Couldn't see going that way. I didn't choose the root cannal and I am glad I didn't. The besnit is great. Very easy to get use to and I can smile again. Gums doing fine, and I feel good knowing they are doing so much better. I will keep going now for regular cleanings. This dentist took alot of money off what I owe so I could do this work. she gave mercy on my bill. so I will try even harder to pay her off. That is the kind of doc. that deserves the pay! My teeth are stain and cavity free, and I am smiling!:D ginnie

Jedijud 02-27-2012 04:17 PM

Sorry to reply on this comment but I am kinda new at this and I wanna get a answer for my question.Alright you have heard my story.I am trying quote trying to get my records from the dentist.They are not wanting to cooperate with me they are only giving me x rays no records last week it was we can only give you records no x rays?This has me puzzled they ask twenty questions why do I need them name of next dentist I am seein?Why are they giving me 20 questions bryanna?Why are they so head strong bout not giving me all my records?

ginnie 02-27-2012 08:18 PM

About records and the dentist
 
I want to welcome you to Neuro Talk. I am sure Bryanna will answer your question at some point. I want you to know that things happen in dentists offices that should not happen. You are allowed by law to get your records. If they are not giving them to you, that would put up all kinds of red flags in my mind. I live near Tampa Bay, Last night there was a late night news hour about chain dentists doing work that is unecessary. We are not taught to question dental proceedures, and we should. The first dentist I went to, which was in a chain, proposed doing about 3 thousand dollars work on a single tooth. I found out after a different doctor, and through Bryanna that this tooth was not salvageable to begin with. Question all proceedures, and learn all you can. Bryanna did save me all kinds of money. As you know dental care is very expensive. Getting a second dentist, and that opinion was the best thing I ever did for myself. The New dentist was extremely good with explaining things to me, the first dentist did NOT. I really do hope you can get your records with no more trouble, don't accept their excuses. I do with you all the best with your oral care. ginnie

Bryanna 02-28-2012 10:56 PM

Jedijud,

It is my understanding that you are legally entitled to a copy of your written records. I have provided records for many patients upon their request without any question.

You can call your local dental board, their number will be listed in the phone book or online. They will be able to tell you the legality and perhaps even help you obtain your records.

You don't have to give the dental office ANY reason for wanting your records.... you are just entitled to them. I get the sense that they may be trying to hide the incident or they have not kept very good records and that fact alone could get them into trouble.

Have you had the oral surgery to deal with this infection?

Bryanna




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Originally Posted by Jedijud (Post 856126)
Sorry to reply on this comment but I am kinda new at this and I wanna get a answer for my question.Alright you have heard my story.I am trying quote trying to get my records from the dentist.They are not wanting to cooperate with me they are only giving me x rays no records last week it was we can only give you records no x rays?This has me puzzled they ask twenty questions why do I need them name of next dentist I am seein?Why are they giving me 20 questions bryanna?Why are they so head strong bout not giving me all my records?


Jedijud 03-04-2012 11:45 AM

Hey guys well got my records after I went down and demanded them I had to be a prick but I got them.Well when I went in the girl said can I help you I said I want all my records she said why?I said they are mine and I want them she said what part do u want and I will get that part?I kinda lost it and said I wanted my records she said I have to get ahold of my office manager can you come back I said I will wait.No office manager ever came come to find out she was the office manager and what she did was call the dentist that performed my extraction and told her I was there to get my records she then went on to say the dentist said she strongly recommends you come back to our oral surgeon!I said no I am going to a better orAl surgeon.I live in a very small town so I see the girls from the office everyday it went from talking to me to straight snubbing me.I feel something bad has happened and they r covering it up now.I think the infection has maybe subsided bit now I am breaking out in a rash and I can hold a drink of anything in my sinuses.What I mean is I can hold a drink of pop in my sinus cavity for at least an hour.Then I give it a little suction and it pours out like a fountain drink.Go to oral surgeon on Tuesday will keep you posted thanks for the help it means alot.

ginnie 03-04-2012 12:40 PM

Hi jedijud
 
The dentist you got the records from was not doing right by you. I do think her mishandling of your case, has caused the problem you have. I am glad you got the records, even if it took you getting angry about it. I have had the problem before with other physicians. I hope your infection can be cleared up now with a new oral specialist. Sorry this happened to you. ginnie

Bryanna 03-04-2012 01:10 PM

Jedijud,

It sounds like you have a "severe" sinus perforation. DO NOT drink anything other than water. Any other type of drink can cause further irritation and additional bacteria for the infection to thrive on. Try to avoid drinking on that side of your mouth if possible. Also refrain from drinking with a straw because the suction on the straw will re-open the perforated tissue.

I am glad that you were persistent in getting your records. I hate to hear stories like this.... but hopefully your new oral surgeon will be more competent than your previous dentist.

Please check in with us after your surgery to let us know how you're doing.

Bryanna


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Originally Posted by Jedijud (Post 857895)
Hey guys well got my records after I went down and demanded them I had to be a prick but I got them.Well when I went in the girl said can I help you I said I want all my records she said why?I said they are mine and I want them she said what part do u want and I will get that part?I kinda lost it and said I wanted my records she said I have to get ahold of my office manager can you come back I said I will wait.No office manager ever came come to find out she was the office manager and what she did was call the dentist that performed my extraction and told her I was there to get my records she then went on to say the dentist said she strongly recommends you come back to our oral surgeon!I said no I am going to a better orAl surgeon.I live in a very small town so I see the girls from the office everyday it went from talking to me to straight snubbing me.I feel something bad has happened and they r covering it up now.I think the infection has maybe subsided bit now I am breaking out in a rash and I can hold a drink of anything in my sinuses.What I mean is I can hold a drink of pop in my sinus cavity for at least an hour.Then I give it a little suction and it pours out like a fountain drink.Go to oral surgeon on Tuesday will keep you posted thanks for the help it means alot.


Jedijud 03-06-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ginnie (Post 857903)
The dentist you got the records from was not doing right by you. I do think her mishandling of your case, has caused the problem you have. I am glad you got the records, even if it took you getting angry about it. I have had the problem before with other physicians. I hope your infection can be cleared up now with a new oral specialist. Sorry this happened to you. ginnie

Hey ginnie and bryana just got back from my 2nd oral surgeon I will be operated on next week.He explained that he was worried about my sinus and that the hole had been opened to long.The sinus is a sterile cavity he went on to explain he must remove tissue from my cheek to repair the hole.All together 950 dollars and I have to be put under


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