[GrannyLaLa1960]

*tried to post earlier but it logged me out, hope this didn't double post, I couldn't find the other post if it did. My apologies if it did.

Where to start?
Allergic to penicillin and took a LOT of Tetracycline as a child until age 12 due to severe ear/throat/sinus infections (found out age 12 I had no eardrum thanks to a bout with Scarlet fever at age 5).

A lot of baby teeth had to be pulled, permanent teeth were very white, straight and pretty.

I'm 52 and missing:

#1, 4, 14, 16, 17,30, 31, 32. I don't have 2, 15, 18, don't recall them being pulled nor coming in. Have had dentist tell me I'm "missing" teeth.

Wisdom teeth came in at age 17.

Root canals:

11, 9, 8,6,5,29, 20.

Now here's my issue:

#6 root canal was done by an incompetent dentist (broke off 3 of my husband's teeth, he had to run out of the office and straight to oral surgeon is just 1 example but our insurance had him as ONLY one listed)

My new dentist just wants to pull it, no ifs ands or buts. No infection. And put in a bridge. There is no infection on capped tooth #7 but she says there is decay and when she pulls off the cap to see how bad the decay is. If it's bad no attempt at root canal, she wants to pull it too. If it's not that bad then a permanent bridge 5-7.

Tooth #5 had root canal AND was patched because a new dentist attempted root canal, drilled through SIDE of tooth, rushed out without telling me what happened, ran back in and say QUICK, GET TO DR. *****, ENDO. I get to endo and it's explained there the sac ruptured, might save tooth, finish root canal, patch, etc. I still have the tooth over a year later, patch worked it's way out, need cap.

I'm so confused.

Do I pull pull pull? I've spent THOUSANDS to keep my teeth in, no infections in my root canals that the first dentist did, he cleaned them at least 3 times before capping back in early 90's.

My problem with a bridge is that I've seen the teeth they're connected to get bad and the bridges fall causing such ugly teeth. I don't want partials, my mom accidentally spit hers out of the window and has to glue in her full set before eating. How many people have I seen glue their teeth in, can't eat, reline, reline, reline and eat with them laying on the table?? Sores, blisters, etc.

I'm leaning towards root canal by endo on #7 if needed and can be done, implant on #8 and regular cap on #9 then live in a tent to pay for it all.

I'm about to embark on a new career and I really need to put forward a professional look with a nice smile. Not broken, discolored teeth and spitting dentures across the room slapping clients in the face. If I were a comedian I'd just buy wind ups and wear them. Speaking of which caps on 8/9/10 are darker and need to be replaced.

[ginnie]

Bryanna is tops about this subject. Oh Granny, I do know people who have spent alot to retain their teeth. The RC teeth are not worth a re-do, no matter what your doctors say. These RC teeth have infection in them which eventually do just what yours did, infection under, then you spend more and more on the same teeth. It is a big money making industry and they don't tell you the truth. The tiny cannals inside the tooth, retain infection. They can never get all of it out no matter what proceedure or re-proceedure they do.
If there is any way to swing it, implants may be the best, so you can have a normal bite and look. Bryanna can tell you about each tooth and really what is going on. Don't spend any more money until you get the full scoop OK? I am sorry you are having these issues. ginnie

[GrannyLaLa1960]

The broken root canal I can see the pulling, even if I don't want it pulled but it's not infected. The number 7 tooth that she says she might have to pull isn't infected either. It's just that the type of antibiotic I had to take as a child made the enamel weaker than it should be and when I get a cavity it's isn't too long before I have to get the tooth redone.. over and over, so a cap is the only way to go asap. The root canals have been done on the teeth that I didn't have insurance on and had to just fill too many times before I got insurance back in the 90's.

I just want nice teeth that are still IN my gums, not GLUED in. :

Originally Posted by ginnie

Bryanna is tops about this subject. Oh Granny, I do know people who have spent alot to retain their teeth. The RC teeth are not worth a re-do, no matter what your doctors say. These RC teeth have infection in them which eventually do just what yours did, infection under, then you spend more and more on the same teeth. It is a big money making industry and they don't tell you the truth. The tiny cannals inside the tooth, retain infection. They can never get all of it out no matter what proceedure or re-proceedure they do.
If there is any way to swing it, implants may be the best, so you can have a normal bite and look. Bryanna can tell you about each tooth and really what is going on. Don't spend any more money until you get the full scoop OK? I am sorry you are having these issues. ginnie

[Bryanna]

Hi GrannyLaLa,

I am in the dental field and can offer you some information that your dentists may or may not have shared with you.

Your baby and permanent teeth were compromised from the frequent antibiotics you took as a kid. The permanent teeth are forming during childhood so antibiotics taken during childhood will have a negative affect on them when they come in. They may (or may not) look okay esthetically but the interior of the teeth are usually malformed or compromised in some way. So it is common then for these teeth to have constant problems irrelevant of how many times they are root canaled.

Root canaled teeth are always in a compromised state. It is not possible to remove all of the nerve tissue irrelevant of how well the procedure is done or how many times the tooth is cleaned out. There is no access to the microscopic canals which will continue to harbor dead tissue. This renders the tooth very unhealthy and eventually the surrounding bone. There are also numerous systemic risks associated with retaining unhealthy teeth.

So with that said....and given your medical and dental history.... your dentist may be trying to tell you that it's best to remove the teeth rather than root canal them. In your case since you are missing so many teeth... it may behoove you to remove the teeth that are root canaled as well as those that are in guarded condition and wear partial dentures or discuss with your dentist if you area candidate for dental implants.

If you continue to patch up these teeth and place bridges here and there... you are going to constantly be in the dental chair because there is no longevity in teeth that are root canaled and/or in guarded condition. You will spend more money doing that than you would if you had a more definitive plan that took into consideration the longevity of your dental care.

I hope this information is helpful to you.

Bryanna

Originally Posted by GrannyLaLa1960

*tried to post earlier but it logged me out, hope this didn't double post, I couldn't find the other post if it did. My apologies if it did.

Where to start?
Allergic to penicillin and took a LOT of Tetracycline as a child until age 12 due to severe ear/throat/sinus infections (found out age 12 I had no eardrum thanks to a bout with Scarlet fever at age 5).

A lot of baby teeth had to be pulled, permanent teeth were very white, straight and pretty.

I'm 52 and missing:

#1, 4, 14, 16, 17,30, 31, 32. I don't have 2, 15, 18, don't recall them being pulled nor coming in. Have had dentist tell me I'm "missing" teeth.

Wisdom teeth came in at age 17.

Root canals:

11, 9, 8,6,5,29, 20.

Now here's my issue:

#6 root canal was done by an incompetent dentist (broke off 3 of my husband's teeth, he had to run out of the office and straight to oral surgeon is just 1 example but our insurance had him as ONLY one listed)

My new dentist just wants to pull it, no ifs ands or buts. No infection. And put in a bridge. There is no infection on capped tooth #7 but she says there is decay and when she pulls off the cap to see how bad the decay is. If it's bad no attempt at root canal, she wants to pull it too. If it's not that bad then a permanent bridge 5-7.

Tooth #5 had root canal AND was patched because a new dentist attempted root canal, drilled through SIDE of tooth, rushed out without telling me what happened, ran back in and say QUICK, GET TO DR. *****, ENDO. I get to endo and it's explained there the sac ruptured, might save tooth, finish root canal, patch, etc. I still have the tooth over a year later, patch worked it's way out, need cap.

I'm so confused.

Do I pull pull pull? I've spent THOUSANDS to keep my teeth in, no infections in my root canals that the first dentist did, he cleaned them at least 3 times before capping back in early 90's.

My problem with a bridge is that I've seen the teeth they're connected to get bad and the bridges fall causing such ugly teeth. I don't want partials, my mom accidentally spit hers out of the window and has to glue in her full set before eating. How many people have I seen glue their teeth in, can't eat, reline, reline, reline and eat with them laying on the table?? Sores, blisters, etc.

I'm leaning towards root canal by endo on #7 if needed and can be done, implant on #8 and regular cap on #9 then live in a tent to pay for it all.

I'm about to embark on a new career and I really need to put forward a professional look with a nice smile. Not broken, discolored teeth and spitting dentures across the room slapping clients in the face. If I were a comedian I'd just buy wind ups and wear them. Speaking of which caps on 8/9/10 are darker and need to be replaced.

[ginnie]

A friend of mine,. decided to do the implants and is very very happy with his choice. No more expensive treatments, and a smile he had not been able to show for years. ginnie

[GrannyLaLa1960]

Thank you Bryanna. I'm glad I found this site. I'll have to cap the teeth that have cavities but still have plenty of the tooth left as a temp measurement for now, that's only a few teeth as of right now.

I'll do the implant as I don't want a bridge to be connected to a very compromised tooth. I don't want partial plate if I can help it.

My bottom teeth in the front are doing very well so far, maybe because they formed faster and came in faster than the back, who knows?

I'll just out like McDonald's.. here an implant, there an implant, everywhere an implant

Originally Posted by Bryanna

Hi GrannyLaLa,

I am in the dental field and can offer you some information that your dentists may or may not have shared with you.

Your baby and permanent teeth were compromised from the frequent antibiotics you took as a kid. The permanent teeth are forming during childhood so antibiotics taken during childhood will have a negative affect on them when they come in. They may (or may not) look okay esthetically but the interior of the teeth are usually malformed or compromised in some way. So it is common then for these teeth to have constant problems irrelevant of how many times they are root canaled.

Root canaled teeth are always in a compromised state. It is not possible to remove all of the nerve tissue irrelevant of how well the procedure is done or how many times the tooth is cleaned out. There is no access to the microscopic canals which will continue to harbor dead tissue. This renders the tooth very unhealthy and eventually the surrounding bone. There are also numerous systemic risks associated with retaining unhealthy teeth.

So with that said....and given your medical and dental history.... your dentist may be trying to tell you that it's best to remove the teeth rather than root canal them. In your case since you are missing so many teeth... it may behoove you to remove the teeth that are root canaled as well as those that are in guarded condition and wear partial dentures or discuss with your dentist if you area candidate for dental implants.

If you continue to patch up these teeth and place bridges here and there... you are going to constantly be in the dental chair because there is no longevity in teeth that are root canaled and/or in guarded condition. You will spend more money doing that than you would if you had a more definitive plan that took into consideration the longevity of your dental care.

I hope this information is helpful to you.

Bryanna