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Old 02-03-2014, 12:46 PM #11
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PriME,

Just to bring some clarity to the topic of root canaled teeth......
Many, many thousands of people have root canaled teeth. Every single one of them has a chronic infection inside of their tooth. Whether they have symptoms or not is irrelevant as most dental problems do not show signs of a problem until it has progressed beyond the original problem. The nature of the chronic infection has nothing to do with someone being more sensitive to changes in their body. It is an anatomical issue pertaining to the tiny canals that are in every single tooth as well as a systemic (whole body) issue pertaining to the filtering of the bacteria in the blood moving through the blood vessels. No one is immune to either of those things.

An example of a similar analogy would be with people who smoke cigarettes. Some will develop lung cancer.... while others will not. But every single person who smokes cigarettes has some form of a lung deficiency and/or other respiratory issue due to the toxic chemicals in tobacco.

I truly wish infected teeth were salvageable.... but the fact of the matter is, they are not and the bacteria that resides in the tooth will eventually proliferate beyond the tooth. Every dentist is aware of this.... but it is their business to sell root canals just like a store owner being aware of the dangers of smoking who still sells cigarettes.

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How do you feel after it? Which tooth was it?

Both my brother and his wife have had root canals, and they don't have any issues after it, per se, so I don't really know...I mean, some people may just be more sensitive to changes in their body, I don't know.
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How do you feel after it? Which tooth was it?

Both my brother and his wife have had root canals, and they don't have any issues after it, per se, so I don't really know...I mean, some people may just be more sensitive to changes in their body, I don't know.

I feel okay. However, the research on the subject does concern me and it appears creditable.

The RC was done about a week ago and I am considering if I should have had the procedure performed with Ozone. I local dentist does perform the RC w Ozone treatment. I wonder if retreating the RC w the local dentist would make any difference in eliminating bacteria from dental tubins. Sounds impossible from the research I have observed. Thus making extraction the only effective remedy.

I have a titanium implant already and wondering what would be the best course of action there as well. Extraction would sounds as though it would be painful as would be the potential consequences.


Anyways great site and appreciate any feedback on this subject.
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PriME,

Just to bring some clarity to the topic of root canaled teeth......
Many, many thousands of people have root canaled teeth. Every single one of them has a chronic infection inside of their tooth. Whether they have symptoms or not is irrelevant as most dental problems do not show signs of a problem until it has progressed beyond the original problem. The nature of the chronic infection has nothing to do with someone being more sensitive to changes in their body. It is an anatomical issue pertaining to the tiny canals that are in every single tooth as well as a systemic (whole body) issue pertaining to the filtering of the bacteria in the blood moving through the blood vessels. No one is immune to either of those things.

An example of a similar analogy would be with people who smoke cigarettes. Some will develop lung cancer.... while others will not. But every single person who smokes cigarettes has some form of a lung deficiency and/or other respiratory issue due to the toxic chemicals in tobacco.

I truly wish infected teeth were salvageable.... but the fact of the matter is, they are not and the bacteria that resides in the tooth will eventually proliferate beyond the tooth. Every dentist is aware of this.... but it is their business to sell root canals just like a store owner being aware of the dangers of smoking who still sells cigarettes.

Bryanna

Was not aware there was a page 2 before I posted my previous comment. Still new.

Thank you for the post above. It is very clear you have ample knowledge on this subject.

If what I have read from various internet research on the subject, then a RC at this time does not cure the infection. That would also include Ozone therapy from reports ive reviewed.

I recently had this RC done last week and was hoping that maybe if it were done with Ozone it would eliminate the bacteria but appears it only last for about a year if that.

Would there be any purpose in having ozone therapy done at this time as a form of retreatment?

I have yet to have my permanent crown placed at this time and if I am going to retreat the RC w Ozone it would be best to complete asap.


Appreciate any feedback available.

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Hi agape,

Thank you for your kind words and glad that you find the information here helpful. I am in the dental field for 30+ years..... so yes, I am knowledgeable about this topic.

There is no access to the tiny canals within a tooth... they cannot be reached... and are not even visible to the eye. They will continue to harbor necrotic nerve tissue irrelevant of what procedure is done and irrelevant of what medicament is used to inject into the area.... including ozone.

Ozone has some therapeutic uses in dentistry and in medicine as it encourages the immune system to send healing cells to an injured or traumatized area of the body. However, it has no positive effect on the tooth itself and therefore cannot alter the necrosis occurring inside of the tooth. Because the bacteria is inflaming the tooth and the area surrounding the tooth, the affects of the ozone can actually create more inflammation/pressure to build up in the area that it is injected into. Ozone injections are risky and cannot provide long term relief from a problem that will continue to progress due to the nature of the problem.

Regarding your dental implant.... are you thinking of having that removed?

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Was not aware there was a page 2 before I posted my previous comment. Still new.

Thank you for the post above. It is very clear you have ample knowledge on this subject.

If what I have read from various internet research on the subject, then a RC at this time does not cure the infection. That would also include Ozone therapy from reports ive reviewed.

I recently had this RC done last week and was hoping that maybe if it were done with Ozone it would eliminate the bacteria but appears it only last for about a year if that.

Would there be any purpose in having ozone therapy done at this time as a form of retreatment?

I have yet to have my permanent crown placed at this time and if I am going to retreat the RC w Ozone it would be best to complete asap.


Appreciate any feedback available.

Thank you
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Hi agape,

Thank you for your kind words and glad that you find the information here helpful. I am in the dental field for 30+ years..... so yes, I am knowledgeable about this topic.

There is no access to the tiny canals within a tooth... they cannot be reached... and are not even visible to the eye. They will continue to harbor necrotic nerve tissue irrelevant of what procedure is done and irrelevant of what medicament is used to inject into the area.... including ozone.

Ozone has some therapeutic uses in dentistry and in medicine as it encourages the immune system to send healing cells to an injured or traumatized area of the body. However, it has no positive effect on the tooth itself and therefore cannot alter the necrosis occurring inside of the tooth. Because the bacteria is inflaming the tooth and the area surrounding the tooth, the affects of the ozone can actually create more inflammation/pressure to build up in the area that it is injected into. Ozone injections are risky and cannot provide long term relief from a problem that will continue to progress due to the nature of the problem.

Regarding your dental implant.... are you thinking of having that removed?

Bryanna

Thank you Bryanna for the info above.


At this time I am considering removal of the dental titanium implant. I had it placed approx. 5 years ago due to an injury sustained playing sports. I had no idea at that time any possible ramifications. I have several projects I am working on at this time and all of this is still very new to me in regards to dental issues. I am thankful to at least be aware of this info at this time.

A concern for me is that because I have had a RC that the implant could potentially be more prone to infection/bacteria. The teeth are beside one another. These are front teeth so removing them is a little more of a concern.

I have read up that ceramic implants are a possibility and that they are potentially less toxic to the immune system. I will certainly be considering removal of the impant and RC within the next 6 months. Financially at this time I cannot afford it. I presume this will also be a painful procedure and will want to seek out a qualified physician.


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My hope was since the RC was recently treated and the permanent crown has not been placed that I would potentially be able to "buy time" by having the RC retreated with Ozone while performing the RC. I have read the Ozone injections are dangerous from the various posts of members on this forum. The Ozone therapy completed during a RC sounded to be more safe and was hoping more effective at treating the bacteria. As studies have indicated, the best I can hope for if the RC was retreated with Ozone would be about a year before bacteria would set it once again.

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I also have a loved one who has been diagnosed with Thyroid Cancer. The first surgery was not successful, therefore a second surgery was done to remove lymphnodes. Unfortunately there is Cancer that still remains and has not spread or grown larger. Since reviewing miscellaneous data on this subject of RC's I asked if they had ever had a RC and the answer was yes on a back molar that is not visible.

I realize that RC's detrimental effects are most commonly on the immune system. If this person were to have the RC removed would they be in danger of potentially making matters worse if the removal of the RC was done by a highly trained physician. I have read various reports that a RC that has been present for over ten years is a weaker tooth and therefore can break into several pieces during removal. If anything were to be left behind the infection could still be present. Would it be dangerous for the RC to be removed for this individual or would it be best to leave be.


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I want to thank you kindly in advance for any information you would have a moment to share.


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I had a root canal on my last upper molar "27" if you will (last Thur). Today, I got a permanent filling on it.

This tooth is on the left side of my face.

As I write this, my left nostril is COMPLETELY plugged. When I hold my right nostril closed, I cannot breathe through my left nostril. When I hold my left nostril closed, my right nostril IS COMPLETELY, ASTONISHINGLY CLEAR.

I have no doubts that this is due to bacteria or whatever affecting my sinus emanating from a root canal that was not properly cleaned.

Can someone advise me on pulling a tooth after a root canal? I have no health issues of any kind, definitely no sinus issues, and I do not want this to become permanent - that would mean that I paid $1600 to give myself sinus issues.
I relate to your symptoms exactly. My right nostril is plugged after a root canal done 4 weeks ago. I went to 3 endos, an ENT and oral surgeon. The endos said the X-ray looks normal, cat scan shows minor sinus inflammation. The ENT prescribed drugs of course. The oral surg suggested an apio after an ENT's prognosis. Make a decision. You know intuitively what's best, not these glorified, ignorant Dr.'s. I plan on pulling the tooth after I consult again with my endo and oral surg.
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I've learned a lot already from reading Bryanna's posts. I had an infected tooth under a bridge. When the root canal was finished, the endodontist said that the disinfectant he put in the canal "went right out." Because all of my pre-procedure symptoms have continued, I assume that (1) the infection is still there and also (2) that it may have spread because he perforated the apex. I have been on amoxycillin for 10 days and since the root canal on Vicodin. How long do I wait before I ask for an extraction? They seem unconcerned that I have more pain now than before.
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Hi Ploy,

I am in the dental field and can offer you some information here.

I am going to re post some of your thread and reply in bold type.

<<My right nostril is plugged after a root canal done 4 weeks ago.>>

THIS SYMPTOM SHOULD NOT BE IGNORED. DID THE ENDO MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT PERFORATING THE APEX DURING THE RC PROCEDURE? IS THERE ANY CHANCE YOU COULD POST THE PRE AND POST OP X-RAYS HERE?

<< I went to 3 endos, an ENT and oral surgeon. The endos said the X-ray looks normal, cat scan shows minor sinus inflammation. >>

NOT UNUSUAL FOR SOMEONE TO SEE SEVERAL DENTISTS AND BE TOLD THE RC TOOTH LOOKS "NORMAL". THIS IS MAINLY BECAUSE IT IS "TYPICAL" TO SEE PATHOLOGY AROUND MOST RC TEETH. NORMAL IS JUST ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING TYPICAL OR COMMON.

<<The ENT prescribed drugs of course.>>

OF COURSE HE DID. HOWEVER THINK ABOUT THIS. HE SAYS THE XRAY LOOKS "NORMAL"... SO WHY THE ANTIBIOTICS???

<<The oral surg suggested an apio after an ENT's prognosis.>>

OF COURSE HE DID. BUT AGAIN... IF IT'S NORMAL WHY THE NEED TO DO AN APICO??

<< You know intuitively what's best, not these glorified, ignorant Dr.'s. I plan on pulling the tooth after I consult again with my endo and oral surg.>>

THE DENTISTS ARE GOING TO LEAVE THE DECISION UP TO YOU. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE TOOTH IS INFECTED AND WILL REMAIN THAT WAY. THE ONLY WAY TO ATTEMPT TO CURE THE INFECTION IS TO REMOVE THE SOURCE OF INFECTION WHICH IS THE TOOTH. AN ORAL SURGEON SHOULD BE THE ONE TO REMOVE IT AND I WOULD REMIND HIM ABOUT YOUR PLUGGED NOSTRIL SO HE KNOWS TO DEBRIDE THE AREA THOROUGHLY AND CHECK FOR SINUS INVOLVEMENT.

Hope this information helps!
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