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Old 01-15-2014, 03:43 PM #1
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Thanks for the reply Bryanna! Do you think there is a different naming convention in Canada? Pretty sure they said #27 in reference to the last upper molar on the left side. (It's not a wisdom tooth, bc I had all 4 removed about 7 years ago.)

I've made an appointment with my dentist for next week. I'm going to see how my symptoms go, and then discuss with him my options for removal of the tooth.

Bryanna, just wondering - in your experience, is there anytime you would suggest NOT extracting? ie, do you ever think root canals are better than the alternative, or at least, not as harmful? Are some more stable than others? I find this a very fascinating subject - I've found several research articles looking into the presence of bacteria in RC teeth, and most studies suggest that the sterilization process does not clear tooth of much bacteria... My endodontist mentioned that he had had several RCs as a child due to a hockey accident...he still has all of them - I guess some people are less susceptible to complications than others?
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Hi PriME,

The tooth numbering system may be different in Canada.

I can tell you without any hesitation that all root canaled teeth become chronically infected and that is due to the anatomy of the tooth and having no access to the tiny canals to remove the nerve tissue. It is also due to the fact that all teeth require blood as nutrition in order to remain healthy. During the rc procedure, the blood vessel that feeds the tooth is severed meaning the tooth is no longer fed nutrition. This process progresses into necrosis and ischemia in the surrounding bone and tissue of the tooth.,.... and beyond.

Healthy teeth that have been root canaled, meaning those that were traumatized but treated immediately with a rc procedure may have a longer "retainment" in the bone than those teeth that are already infected prior to the rc procedure. The reason being is due to the lack of pathology at the time of the root canal. However, as with all root canaled teeth, the necrosis will occur as I have explained above.

In the case of your dentist who had a hockey accident as a child and received several root canals... he may very well still have some of those teeth at this time. This is due in part to the fact that he was a child, the tooth may not have been fully formed yet AND there was no infection prior to the rc's. However, I would venture to say he has had those teeth re treated and/or had apicoectomies done. Neither of which "cure" the bacteria that is now residing inside those tiny canals.

Some people who have very healthy immune systems, no chronic health conditions, no chronic stress, eat very wholesomely and have impeccable dental health may "retain" their rc teeth without obvious symptoms longer than those in a different category. But the end result is unfortunately the same.... the teeth are what they are and there is no procedure to "cure" the problem.

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Thanks for the reply Bryanna! Do you think there is a different naming convention in Canada? Pretty sure they said #27 in reference to the last upper molar on the left side. (It's not a wisdom tooth, bc I had all 4 removed about 7 years ago.)

I've made an appointment with my dentist for next week. I'm going to see how my symptoms go, and then discuss with him my options for removal of the tooth.

Bryanna, just wondering - in your experience, is there anytime you would suggest NOT extracting? ie, do you ever think root canals are better than the alternative, or at least, not as harmful? Are some more stable than others? I find this a very fascinating subject - I've found several research articles looking into the presence of bacteria in RC teeth, and most studies suggest that the sterilization process does not clear tooth of much bacteria... My endodontist mentioned that he had had several RCs as a child due to a hockey accident...he still has all of them - I guess some people are less susceptible to complications than others?
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Ugh, this is just SO ridiculous. How is possible for my nose to be STILL plugged ONLY and consistently in the left nostril?
I went back for an X-ray yesterday from the original dentist who referred me to the endodontist to get the root canal and he said there was no sign of infection around that tooth.

So could the cleaning of the canals during the root canal have led to infection into the sinuses? Like it's actually ridiculous how clear my right nostril is, in comparison to my left.

I guess I can continue breathing through my mouth until winter is over and people believe me when I say I don't have a cold ... I don't know if the removal of the tooth will help with the sinus though? I guess once that source of infection is gone..
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simply unbelievable there may be potential hazards of root canals and the general public is completely blind to those assertions.

the medical field does not seem to think this is a relevant issue. however, the documentation seems to be very credible.

I realize losing a tooth is never what someone wants to hear,, but if it potentially jeopardizes health its a very easy decision.

seems like more organizations would get involved to make the public aware.

new to all this so not sure what to think. I too just had a root canal and kinda felt the same as far as too late to say no.

haven't had the root canal crowned yet and was considering retreatment with ozone therapy but that sounds like its no guarantee there either.


if I had known all this I would been flossing religiously.
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How do you feel after it? Which tooth was it?

Both my brother and his wife have had root canals, and they don't have any issues after it, per se, so I don't really know...I mean, some people may just be more sensitive to changes in their body, I don't know.
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PriME,

Just to bring some clarity to the topic of root canaled teeth......
Many, many thousands of people have root canaled teeth. Every single one of them has a chronic infection inside of their tooth. Whether they have symptoms or not is irrelevant as most dental problems do not show signs of a problem until it has progressed beyond the original problem. The nature of the chronic infection has nothing to do with someone being more sensitive to changes in their body. It is an anatomical issue pertaining to the tiny canals that are in every single tooth as well as a systemic (whole body) issue pertaining to the filtering of the bacteria in the blood moving through the blood vessels. No one is immune to either of those things.

An example of a similar analogy would be with people who smoke cigarettes. Some will develop lung cancer.... while others will not. But every single person who smokes cigarettes has some form of a lung deficiency and/or other respiratory issue due to the toxic chemicals in tobacco.

I truly wish infected teeth were salvageable.... but the fact of the matter is, they are not and the bacteria that resides in the tooth will eventually proliferate beyond the tooth. Every dentist is aware of this.... but it is their business to sell root canals just like a store owner being aware of the dangers of smoking who still sells cigarettes.

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Both my brother and his wife have had root canals, and they don't have any issues after it, per se, so I don't really know...I mean, some people may just be more sensitive to changes in their body, I don't know.
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PriME,

Just to bring some clarity to the topic of root canaled teeth......
Many, many thousands of people have root canaled teeth. Every single one of them has a chronic infection inside of their tooth. Whether they have symptoms or not is irrelevant as most dental problems do not show signs of a problem until it has progressed beyond the original problem. The nature of the chronic infection has nothing to do with someone being more sensitive to changes in their body. It is an anatomical issue pertaining to the tiny canals that are in every single tooth as well as a systemic (whole body) issue pertaining to the filtering of the bacteria in the blood moving through the blood vessels. No one is immune to either of those things.

An example of a similar analogy would be with people who smoke cigarettes. Some will develop lung cancer.... while others will not. But every single person who smokes cigarettes has some form of a lung deficiency and/or other respiratory issue due to the toxic chemicals in tobacco.

I truly wish infected teeth were salvageable.... but the fact of the matter is, they are not and the bacteria that resides in the tooth will eventually proliferate beyond the tooth. Every dentist is aware of this.... but it is their business to sell root canals just like a store owner being aware of the dangers of smoking who still sells cigarettes.

Bryanna

Was not aware there was a page 2 before I posted my previous comment. Still new.

Thank you for the post above. It is very clear you have ample knowledge on this subject.

If what I have read from various internet research on the subject, then a RC at this time does not cure the infection. That would also include Ozone therapy from reports ive reviewed.

I recently had this RC done last week and was hoping that maybe if it were done with Ozone it would eliminate the bacteria but appears it only last for about a year if that.

Would there be any purpose in having ozone therapy done at this time as a form of retreatment?

I have yet to have my permanent crown placed at this time and if I am going to retreat the RC w Ozone it would be best to complete asap.


Appreciate any feedback available.

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How do you feel after it? Which tooth was it?

Both my brother and his wife have had root canals, and they don't have any issues after it, per se, so I don't really know...I mean, some people may just be more sensitive to changes in their body, I don't know.

I feel okay. However, the research on the subject does concern me and it appears creditable.

The RC was done about a week ago and I am considering if I should have had the procedure performed with Ozone. I local dentist does perform the RC w Ozone treatment. I wonder if retreating the RC w the local dentist would make any difference in eliminating bacteria from dental tubins. Sounds impossible from the research I have observed. Thus making extraction the only effective remedy.

I have a titanium implant already and wondering what would be the best course of action there as well. Extraction would sounds as though it would be painful as would be the potential consequences.


Anyways great site and appreciate any feedback on this subject.
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