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Bryanna 04-19-2015 01:31 PM

Cleo,

Every root canal procedure utilizes toxic chemicals to disinfect and fill the interior of the tooth. Sargenti is just one of those chemicals and those that still utilize it, do not readily inform their patients of that. Even if the dentist did mention it to the patient, chances are the patient would not have a clue of what he was talking. The toxicities associated with root canaled teeth does not just occur from the chemicals used. It also comes from the various species of bacteria that set up house inside of the tiny canals which easily proliferates beyond the tooth taking the toxic disinfectant with it.

Bryanna





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Originally Posted by Cleo (Post 1136695)
Amit, Do you know what was used in your root canals? there is known scientific research about certain endodontic preparations.....


2013, American Association of Endodontists, *


amitsa 04-19-2015 02:30 PM

Hi,

My dentist has not used any Sargenti paste. He has used normal high quality materials only.

What dentists dont want people to know is that the tooth is 2/3 rds of dentin.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to disinfect and block the dentinal tubules and the miles of nerves therein from the bacteria no matter how hard you try. Even if the root canal is done under microscope ,it is still impossible. No matter how many sealants are used or how nicely the RC is irrigated with sodium hypochlorite or any material, one can never disinfect the dentinal tubules. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to block the bacteria from entering there. They are so microscopic they can penetrate thru practically anything - smallest pore imaginable. The nerves there are decayed by the bacteria causing necrosis. They continue to flourish there and slowly make their way downwards. They then infect the ligament. When a person bites ,with every bite the bacteria are thrown into the blood stream from the ligament.

They travel through the blood to various organs. They attach to cells and travel in the body. The person's immune system thinks these bacteria attached to normal body cells as something alien and starts attacking own body cells. This is how one gets auto immune disease. Some bacteria prefer the lungs to thrive,some prefer the heart ,some the liver ,some the nerves and others the kidney. This is called chemotaxis or something. I am not sure about the word. As the disease progresses, the functioning of the organs is affected eventually causing other diseases.

Which is why a root canal is actually a failure. Dentists dont want their patients to know all this.They would be happy if people are kept in the dark and remain ignorant. If a root canal appears to be a success, it is only because of the GOOD CLEVER distinguishing immunity of the person and not
because the root canal has been done meticulously. Root canal is always infected and so is always a failure. It is the person's immunity that makes it a success and not the root canal procedure by itself.

-Amit.

Bryanna 04-19-2015 05:18 PM

Amit,

You have been doing some great research!! You are so on the money with your information about the bacteria from root canaled teeth causing or contributing to a systemic, even auto immune reaction! A persons good immune health can make a difference as to progressive the bacteria may travel, at least at the onset. However, the health of their immune system can change from the plethora of bacterias and toxins they are exposed to not just from their root canaled teeth but from everything else they are exposed to on a daily basis. This change in health status is referred to as the cumulative effect in which the assorted toxins accumulate in the body rather than dissipate. This is why someone can easily think their health problems are not related to their teeth because their physical symptoms may be elsewhere in their body and the correlation in not being diagnosed.

For whoever is following along with this thread......
I believe Chemotaxis was the correct word Amit was looking for and it is basically the movement of white blood cells such as Neutrophils or Macrophages by way of a chemical reaction. So for instance if we placed these white blood cells, which are immune cells that fight infection, in a pool of good bacteria nothing would happen. But put those same cells in a pool of bad bacteria and through a natural chemical reaction the cells start to eat the bacteria. That reaction works great when the infection is minor or acute, can be remedied by medication or can be surgically removed. However, the reaction becomes boundless and exhausting to the immune system when the infection stays chronic and progressive.

Thank you Amit for sharing your personal journey and for sharing all of your wise postings. I know some people are reading them and thinking.... what the heck is she talking about! But there are others who are reading them and saying.... yup, that's me!

Bryanna






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Originally Posted by amitsa (Post 1136846)
Hi,

My dentist has not used any Sargenti paste. He has used normal high quality materials only.

What dentists dont want people to know is that the tooth is 2/3 rds of dentin.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to disinfect and block the dentinal tubules and the miles of nerves therein from the bacteria no matter how hard you try. Even if the root canal is done under microscope ,it is still impossible. No matter how many sealants are used or how nicely the RC is irrigated with sodium hypochlorite or any material, one can never disinfect the dentinal tubules. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to block the bacteria from entering there. They are so microscopic they can penetrate thru practically anything - smallest pore imaginable. The nerves there are decayed by the bacteria causing necrosis. They continue to flourish there and slowly make their way downwards. They then infect the ligament. When a person bites ,with every bite the bacteria are thrown into the blood stream from the ligament.

They travel through the blood to various organs. They attach to cells and travel in the body. The person's immune system thinks these bacteria attached to normal body cells as something alien and starts attacking own body cells. This is how one gets auto immune disease. Some bacteria prefer the lungs to thrive,some prefer the heart ,some the liver ,some the nerves and others the kidney. This is called chemotaxis or something. I am not sure about the word. As the disease progresses, the functioning of the organs is affected eventually causing other diseases.

Which is why a root canal is actually a failure. Dentists dont want their patients to know all this.They would be happy if people are kept in the dark and remain ignorant. If a root canal appears to be a success, it is only because of the GOOD CLEVER distinguishing immunity of the person and not
because the root canal has been done meticulously. Root canal is always infected and so is always a failure. It is the person's immunity that makes it a success and not the root canal procedure by itself.

-Amit.


amitsa 04-20-2015 02:33 AM

Hi Bryanna,

Another problem is the Gutta percha shrinks over time making it even more easier for the bacteria to migrate to the bottom. When I had abscess on my root canaled tooth over a year ago, the dentist here prescribed me Augmentin 625 twice a day and Metronidazole 200 mg thrice a day for 5 days.He said this will clear out the abscess. These antibiotics are extremely harsh on the gut.The side effects were more unbearable than the original abscess. I had severe headache while taking these antibiotics.
I had mild colitis for 10 days after stopping these antibiotics.

Antibiotics are not the solution.They are a bigger problem in this case. Antibiotics may kill the bacteria in your body temporarily where there is a blood supply but what about those inside the dentinal tubules,ligament and the bone. The immune system cannot reach there because the blood supply (pulp) has already been removed. They will continue to multiply in their safe haven and come again in your blood stream. Actually bacteria will develop resistance to antibiotics this way.

As you said the bacteria themselves are a problem but the extremely potent toxins that they generate and lodge inside your body are even more deadly. Over time,those toxins will make you sick.

I am not a dentist or from any medical profession. I am an electronics engineer and have been a software programmer by profession for
the last 17 years. I do development programming and testing on IBM Z/OS mainframe technologies like COBOL,DB2, CICS,IMS-DB /DC,ASSEMBLER.
Also on Java,J2EE and other technologies. I am IBM certified DB2 (RDBMS) associate.

My problems with root canals compelled me to do this internet search. I have been doing this for last year or so.

Regards,
Amit.

Cleo 04-20-2015 12:55 PM

I'm glad to hear you know what was used during your root canal and it was not the cause of your neuralgia.

Cleo 04-20-2015 05:38 PM

*admin edit* I'm reposting in hopes that this fixes the problem since this is information that is crucial and needs to be known.



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Paraformaldehyde-containing endodontic filling materials or sealers (frequently known as Sargenti pastes, N-2, N-2 Universal, RC-2B or RC-2B White) should not be used for endodontic treatment because those materials are unsafe. Extensive scientific research has proven unequivocally that paraformaldehyde-containing filling materials and sealers can cause irreversible damage to tissues near the root canal system including the following: destruction of connective tissue and bone; intractable pain; paresthesia and dysthesia of the mandibular and maxillary nerves; and chronic infections of the maxillary sinus. Moreover, scientific evidence has demonstrated that the damage from paraformaldehyde-containing filling materials and sealers is not necessarily confined to tissues near the root canal. The active ingredients of these filling materials and sealers have been found to travel throughout the body and have been shown to infiltrate the blood, lymph nodes, adrenal glands, kidney, spleen, liver and brain. . . .

Public health concerns and litigation have made the AAE aware of a significant number of patients who have suffered injuries as a result of treatment with paraformaldehyde-containing filling materials and sealers. Undoubtedly, there are many other patients who have also suffered injuries because of these materials, but whose injuries have not been publicly disclosed [4].


http://www.dentalwatch.org/questiona.../overview.html


[4] AAE Position statement concerning paraformaldehyde-containing endodontic filling materials and sealers. Chicago: AAE, 1991, 1998, 2015.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo (Post 1136695)
Amit, Do you know what was used in your root canals? there is known scientific research about certain endodontic preparations.....


2013, American Association of Endodontists, *


amitsa 04-21-2015 10:57 AM

Hi,

In India, there is an age old medicinal system called the ayurveda. It is 5000 years old written in Sanskrit. It uses only natural herbs and natural eatables nothing else to cure all diseases including cancer. No chemicals,no artificial materials. But it calls for due diligence to cure a disease. There are strict diet restrictions. It can cure even diabetes completely . It takes 18 months to cure it. One should not eat any sugars or any sugary foods during that period. Complete abstinence is required.

Ayurveda says in order to prevent tooth decay ,proper diet is important. One should eat almost zero sugars. The only eatables allowed in Ayurveda are natural vegetables,fruits and cow milk. If you eat only this,you will never get a cavity even at the age of 80. This is just what Weston Price said. He examined the diets of people who had almost no cavities. They ate only raw vegetables, some fruits and ocassionally maple and honey. This is exactly what Ayurveda says. All white breads, soft drinks,burgers,pizzas,cookies,sugary and processed food are the root cause of cavities. Cavities are prevented by the correct diet and not by some fluoride toothpaste. This is exactly what Weston Price concluded after his 40 year research. He advocated raw milk (as in ayurveda) and not pasteurised milk.

In India ,those who follow Ayurvedic diet have not had a single cavity in their entire lifetime. It is difficult to believe this. There are many such people in India even now. My grandmother never saw a dentist or an allopathic doctor in her lifetime. She lived for 92 years.

Cavities were rare in India till 100 years ago. With the advent of westernisation and western diet which consists of mainly processed food in India ,even Indians have started developing dental cavities in large numbers.

ADA should ask people to correct their diet. It never asks people to do this.

The Sushruta Samhita in Ayurveda says once the tooth decays the only natural and safe way out is extraction - nothing else.

One more thing Ayurveda prescribes is Oil pulling. It is called Kavala and Gandusha (two types ) to keep your mouth clean. It is being practised in India since time immemorial. The correct oil to use is Irimedadi oil but it is expensive .So people use sesame or coconut oil.

-Amit.


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