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iammagi36 06-24-2013 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryanna (Post 991873)
Magi,

I will provide these links for you about root canal therapy and you can follow up on them as you wish.


The Roots of Disease Connecting Medicine and Dentistry by Dr Robert Kulacz.


The articles that are pro Endodontic therapy are easily obtainable. After all it is a multi million dollar profession! I will not provide those for you as they intentionally offer a partial explanation of the acutal procedure and completely neglect to inform about the risks associated with retaining an infected tooth.

The science regarding bacteria and infection is very simple and well documented in medical and dental literature but it is often written for the professionals rather than the public. So as a lay person, you will need to rely on other trusted sources. So perhaps you will find the work of Dr Meinig, Dr Kulacz, Dr Price, reliable sources since they all were in the thick of things and fortunately lived to write about it for the betterment of all people.

Good luck on your journey. I hope your research helps you make the choice that you feel is in your best interest.

Bryanna




QUOTE=iammagi36;991843]I tried to search for actual studies on pubmedDOTgov but I can't find anything pro or con. Could you point me to some scientific studies that prove this?

[/QUOTE]

My dentist is putting aside extra time to try to fix it with just a filling. She feels it's possible if she does some of it manually and uses low speed drilling rather than the high speed drill. I hope so because I'm sure as heck not ready psychologically for another extraction after this last one.

BTW, Thank you. I would have replied sooner but for some reason I wasn't notified (or didn't see it) by email of this post.

Lynney 09-30-2013 10:56 AM

Several months later....
 
Hi Bryanna

I wanted to have a chat about what has happened since my wisdom tooth extraction. Both my dentist and the surgeon say it has all healed extremely well and there should be no problems. However, I have continued to have pain in the No 6 tooth area and all down the side of my face. (Which was the reason I went to the dental hospital in the first place)

Another x-ray shows both of the molars next to the extracted wisdom tooth (which includes No 6) have roots into the sinus cavity. But although an MRI showed some evidence of inflammation, I have been told there is nothing to be concerned about.

It seems its ok for the professionals to say there is nothing to worry about, but I live with discomfort down that side of my face, into the tooth roots. It hurts more when I floss and I have pressure pain when driving in hilly areas (and I haven't dared fly for a couple of years)!!

The dental surgeons say its a sinus issue and to go back to ENT, as it must be referred pain, but ENT say it must be teeth related as they can't see anything major. I can't believe its nothing to do with my teeth, as I get more pain when flossing...

I am at a loss now, as I really feel like having those 2 upper teeth out in the hope that the pain will go away.

Sorry for going on, just wanted to off-load.

Thanks

Lynne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynney (Post 975948)
Hi Bryanna

Thank you for your kind reply.

I had the impacted wisdom tooth extraction 2 days ago, under local anaesthetic. The root had connected with the sinus cavity (I think she said it was a small perforation). I have stitches, and didn't have excessive bleeding from the mouth, but am coughing up phlegm that is coloured red. Is this to be expected?

I have to not blow my nose for a month, when I return to have it checked out.

Incidentally, the tooth was not decayed, but had a hole from resorption, she told me the body was trying to absorb the tooth internally. Does that make sense?

Thanks for your help again

Lynne


Bryanna 09-30-2013 11:02 PM

Hi Lynne,

Obviously there is something wrong. Whether it is tooth related, sinus related or both..... I cannot tell you. Your symptoms mimic sinus more so than teeth. However, pain upon flossing indicates oral inflammation.

Do the gums bleed when you floss? Does the floss get stuck in the area where it hurts to floss? Are the gums puffy? Does the pain with flossing linger or cause any throbbing? Are you aggressively flossing or brushing in this area? Are you putting anything else on that area... like peroxide, alcohol, mouthwash... anything?

Bryanna


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynney (Post 1018645)
Hi Bryanna

I wanted to have a chat about what has happened since my wisdom tooth extraction. Both my dentist and the surgeon say it has all healed extremely well and there should be no problems. However, I have continued to have pain in the No 6 tooth area and all down the side of my face. (Which was the reason I went to the dental hospital in the first place)

Another x-ray shows both of the molars next to the extracted wisdom tooth (which includes No 6) have roots into the sinus cavity. But although an MRI showed some evidence of inflammation, I have been told there is nothing to be concerned about.

It seems its ok for the professionals to say there is nothing to worry about, but I live with discomfort down that side of my face, into the tooth roots. It hurts more when I floss and I have pressure pain when driving in hilly areas (and I haven't dared fly for a couple of years)!!

The dental surgeons say its a sinus issue and to go back to ENT, as it must be referred pain, but ENT say it must be teeth related as they can't see anything major. I can't believe its nothing to do with my teeth, as I get more pain when flossing...

I am at a loss now, as I really feel like having those 2 upper teeth out in the hope that the pain will go away.

Sorry for going on, just wanted to off-load.

Thanks

Lynne


Lynney 10-02-2013 05:30 AM

Thank you for replying Bryanna :hug:

No, I don't get any bleeding when flossing, nor does the floss get stuck. I do get some gum inflammation above No 6 though. Not using anything else at all in that area, apart from my usual toothpaste.

Lynne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryanna (Post 1018836)
Hi Lynne,

Obviously there is something wrong. Whether it is tooth related, sinus related or both..... I cannot tell you. Your symptoms mimic sinus more so than teeth. However, pain upon flossing indicates oral inflammation.

Do the gums bleed when you floss? Does the floss get stuck in the area where it hurts to floss? Are the gums puffy? Does the pain with flossing linger or cause any throbbing? Are you aggressively flossing or brushing in this area? Are you putting anything else on that area... like peroxide, alcohol, mouthwash... anything?

Bryanna


Bryanna 10-02-2013 01:31 PM

Lynney,

When you say tooth #6 which tooth are you referring to? In the universal code system tooth #6 is the upper right canine/eye tooth.

Is tooth #6 root canaled?

Bryanna

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynney (Post 1019181)
Thank you for replying Bryanna :hug:

No, I don't get any bleeding when flossing, nor does the floss get stuck. I do get some gum inflammation above No 6 though. Not using anything else at all in that area, apart from my usual toothpaste.

Lynne


Lynney 10-02-2013 02:21 PM

Oh dear, I just thought that was what my dentist had said, but that doesn't sound right at all now so I must have been mistaken... (so sorry) :confused:
There was the wisdom tooth, then another molar then this one (which is 2nd back from the eye tooth)
No root canal.

Lynne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryanna (Post 1019281)
Lynney,

When you say tooth #6 which tooth are you referring to? In the universal code system tooth #6 is the upper right canine/eye tooth.

Is tooth #6 root canaled?

Bryanna


Bryanna 10-02-2013 03:30 PM

Lynney,

No problem. Some dentists use a different tooth numbering system. I just asked to clarify which tooth it was ;)

So it is a first molar and it is not root canaled.
Does it have a large filling or a crown on it?
Also refresh my memory.... is this tooth an upper or lower and on your left or right?

Bryanna


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynney (Post 1019296)
Oh dear, I just thought that was what my dentist had said, but that doesn't sound right at all now so I must have been mistaken... (so sorry) :confused:
There was the wisdom tooth, then another molar then this one (which is 2nd back from the eye tooth)
No root canal.

Lynne


Lynney 10-04-2013 05:27 AM

This is an upper tooth (root into the sinus cavity). Left side.
It had previously had a large filling and a hairline crack developed, so an inlay (overlay) has been put on - not a full crown.
Lynne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryanna (Post 1019311)
Lynney,

No problem. Some dentists use a different tooth numbering system. I just asked to clarify which tooth it was ;)

So it is a first molar and it is not root canaled.
Does it have a large filling or a crown on it?
Also refresh my memory.... is this tooth an upper or lower and on your left or right?

Bryanna


Bryanna 10-04-2013 03:37 PM

Lynne,

Thanks for clarifying. I sometimes forget all of the incidentals with each case and don't want to go back and re read everything.

I am wondering if the crack has deepened and/or gotten larger? If that were to occur, bacteria would initially encase the cracked portion of the tooth and that would cause inflammation on the gum as well as internally. Unfortunately this would lead to infection in the tooth. But it may be slowly developing.

It can be very difficult if not impossible to diagnose a cracked or fractured tooth unless the crack was blatantly visible or obvious on an x-ray. Has anyone mentioned this possibility to you?

Bryanna


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynney (Post 1019695)
This is an upper tooth (root into the sinus cavity). Left side.
It had previously had a large filling and a hairline crack developed, so an inlay (overlay) has been put on - not a full crown.
Lynne


Lynney 10-07-2013 04:09 PM

Thanks Bryanna. No, no-one mentioned this possibility.... I was told that the tooth appeared healthy on the recent x-ray. Its difficult to know what to do for the best now.
Lynne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryanna (Post 1019850)
Lynne,

Thanks for clarifying. I sometimes forget all of the incidentals with each case and don't want to go back and re read everything.

I am wondering if the crack has deepened and/or gotten larger? If that were to occur, bacteria would initially encase the cracked portion of the tooth and that would cause inflammation on the gum as well as internally. Unfortunately this would lead to infection in the tooth. But it may be slowly developing.

It can be very difficult if not impossible to diagnose a cracked or fractured tooth unless the crack was blatantly visible or obvious on an x-ray. Has anyone mentioned this possibility to you?

Bryanna



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