Dentistry & Dental Issues For support and discussion about dentistry and dental issues.


advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-23-2015, 06:59 PM #11
Bryanna's Avatar
Bryanna Bryanna is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,624
15 yr Member
Bryanna Bryanna is offline
Grand Magnate
Bryanna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,624
15 yr Member
Default

Hi Bradw,

I am so sorry to hear of your suffering. Chronic pain can become physically and emotionally debilitating. Let's try to sort through this and see if sounds like there may be a correlation between your physical pain and your dental health. I am going to re post some of your thread and reply to it in bold type. It's just easier for you to follow it that way. I will also offer you some additional insight and information at the end.

<<I have an unusual but tragic case. I have been suffering for nine months straight form non-bacterial prostatitis and which has no migrated to my bladder. It feels like I have an infection moving around my entire urinary system. On a 1-10 pain level, I am a 10 around the clock.>>

AS YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW "CHRONIC" (KEEP THAT WORD IN MIND) NON BACTERIAL PROSTATITIS IS AN "INFLAMMATION" (KEEP THAT WORD IN MIND) OF THE PROSTATE GLAND. THERE ARE SEVERAL POSSIBLE REASONS FOR THIS CONDITION WHICH I WILL LIST AND MAYBE SOME OF THEM DO ACT AS IRRITANTS TO YOUR SITUATION.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT "CHRONIC INFLAMMATION" ANY PLACE IN THE BODY, ESPECIALLY LONG TERM INFLAMMATION, CAN TRAVEL TO ANOTHER AREA OF THE BODY. THE ORIGINAL SITE OF INFLAMMATION IS KNOWN AS THE FOCAL POINT AS THIS IS THE CENTER OF THE ORIGINAL PROBLEM.
AN EXAMPLE OF THIS WOULD BE: GINGIVITIS CAN BE AN AGGRESSIVE INFLAMMATION OF THE GUM TISSUE. IF NOTHING IS DONE TO REDUCE THE INFLAMMATION, THE GINGIVITIS BECOMES MORE VIRULENT AND THE RESULT IS PERIODONTAL DISEASE WHICH IS A BACTERIAL INFECTION. ALTHOUGH THIS INFLAMMATION STARTED ON ONLY ONE MOLAR, IT SPREAD AROUND EVERY TOOTH. INFLAMMATION TRAVELS VERY QUICKLY LOOKING FOR ANOTHER SPOT TO RESIDE IN. VERY OFTEN IT WILL SETTLE IN AN ALREADY COMPROMISED ORGAN OR AREA OF THE BODY.

DIET IS A BIG CONTRIBUTOR OF UNFAVORABLE CONDITIONS OF THE PROSTATE AND RENAL COLLECTING SYSTEM (BLADDER, KIDNEYS, ETC) AND DIET CAN EITHER AGGRAVATE A CONDITION OR IMPROVE IT.
CERTAIN THINGS IN THE DIET TO AVOID AS THEY ARE BOTH CONTRIBUTING AND AGGRAVATING FACTORS ARE ALCOHOL, CAFFEINE, TOBACCO, AND SPICY FOODS. OTHER IRRITANTS ARE DEHYDRATION AND PROLONGED SITTING. YOU CAN GOOGLE A LIST OF CONTRIBUTOR AND IRRITANTS TO BE MORE CONCLUSIVE.

<<All this happened two weeks after I had dental work performed. A teeth cleaning and some cavities filled. The dentist however, asked me if my root canal was bothering me. I replied no. He said that I had a low grade infection on tooth #21.>>

HOW LONG HAD IT BEEN SINCE YOU HAD A DENTAL CHECK UP AND HAD YOUR TEETH CLEANED? DO YOU HAVE INFLAMED GUMS OR PERIODONTAL DISEASE? DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ROOT CANALED TEETH? DO YOU TAKE MEDICATIONS THAT CAUSE YOU TO HAVE DRY MOUTH OR CAUSE YOUR GUM TISSUE TO SWELL? DO YOU USE ANTIHISTAMINES OR DECONGESTANTS ON A REGULAR BASIS?
WHAT TYPE OF RESTORATIONS WERE PUT IN THE TEETH THAT WERE DRILLED AND FILLED? AMALGAM MERCURY FILLING (SILVER COLORED) OR COMPOSITE RESINS (WHITE COLORED FILLINGS)?
A TOOTH CLEANING ALWAYS STIRS UP BOTH GOOD AND BAD BACTERIA WHICH IS NOT A PROBLEM FOR A HEALTHY PERSON WHO HAS A HEALTHY MOUTH. IF YOU HAVE A CHRONIC INFLAMMATION OF THE GUM TISSUE THAT IS DUE TO AN ACCUMULATION OF PLAQUE THEN THAT PLAQUE IS INFECTIOUS TO SOME DEGREE.
KEEP IN MIND THAT THE HEALTHY AND UNHEALTHY GERMS THAT RESIDE IN OUR ORAL TISSUE, SALIVARY GLANDS, TEETH AND OUR JAW BONE CONTINUOUSLY TRAVEL VIA THE BLOOD STREAM THROUGH EVERY VESSEL AND EVERY ORGAN OF THE BODY. THAT IS WHY IT IS SO EASY FOR BACTERIA AND INFLAMMATORY CELLS TO TRAVEL BEYOND THE MOUTH.

YOUR DENTIST WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO INFORM YOU OF THE INFECTION HE SAW WITH YOUR ROOT CANALED TOOTH. THIS FINDING IS VERY TYPICAL OF ROOT CANALED TEETH BECAUSE THESE TEETH ARE CHRONICALLY UNWELL DUE TO THE NECROTIC NERVE TISSUE THAT RESIDES INSIDE OF THE MANY HUNDREDS OF MICROSCOPIC CANALS CALLED DENTIN TUBULES. THESE CANALS ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE DURING A ROOT CANAL SO EVERY DENTIST KNOWS TO EXPECT SOME INDICATION OF INFECTION TO EVENTUALLY SHOW UP ON EVERY ROOT CANALED TOOTH. THE BLIND SIDE OF HIM ASKING YOU THAT QUESTION WAS THAT ONCE YOU SAID IT DID NOT HURT, HE WAS NOT ABOUT TO PUSH THE ISSUE ANY FURTHER. IF YOU HAD SAID IT BOTHERS YOU OR YOU DO HAVE PAIN THERE, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE INCLINED TO DISCUSS IT MORE WITH YOU.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THE BACTERIA IN THE DENTIN TUBULES DOES NOT SHOW UP RADIOGRAPHICALLY UNLESS IT HAS SIGNIFICANTLY SPREAD ENOUGH TO BE PICKED UP ON A 2 DIMENSIONAL DENTAL XRAY. SO THE IDEA OF IT BEING A LOW GRADE INFECTION IS A BIT MISCONSTRUED AS THIS TOOTH, AS ALL ROOT CANALED TEETH, HAS HAD A LOW GRADE OR HIGHER INFECTION SINCE THE RC WAS FIRST DONE. ALONG WITH THAT, RC TEETH ARE NON VITAL AS THE BLOOD VESSEL WAS SEVERED DURING THE RC PROCEDURE. BUT YET THE TOOTH STILL RESIDES IN A VITAL LIGAMENT AND VITAL BONE. A NATURAL RESPONSE BY THE IMMUNE SYSTEM IS TO REJECT THIS DEAD TOOTH AND IN DOING SO UNFAVORABLE CHANGES TAKE PLACE IN THE BONE SURROUNDING THIS TOOTH WHICH SENDS OFF "INFLAMMATORY CELLS" THROUGH THE BLOOD STREAM TO OTHER AREAS OF THE BODY. THIS EXPLANATION IS ONLY BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF WHAT OCCURS TO AND FROM A TOOTH THAT HAS BEEN ROOT CANALED. BUT I THINK YOU CAN GET THE JEST OF THE TRAVELING INFLAMMATION PRETTY WELL, YES?

<<Since I didn't feel pain, I thought not much about it. All my urine tests show negative and I don't have cancer, but something in my heart tells me that my ills could be from the low grade infected root canal although I don't fell any pain on that tooth at all.>>

MANY TOOTH INFECTIONS ARE NOT PAINFUL UNTIL THE INFLAMMATION OR INFECTION OVERWHELMS THAT PARTICULAR SITE. IF THE INFLAMMATION IS BUSY TRAVELING ELSEWHERE, THE TOOTH WILL BE THE LAST PLACE YOU WOULD FEEL IT. URINE TESTS, BLOOD TESTS ARE DEPENDENT UPON THE ACTUAL TIME THEY ARE DONE. THE RESULTS CAN DIFFER FROM ONE HOUR TO THE NEXT. SO THESE TESTS ARE ONLY CONCLUSIVE TO A POINT.

<<I went to an oral surgeon last week and refused to pull it, although he did see a very tiny infection at the base of the root.>>

HE REFUSED TO PULL IT OR YOU DID?
AGAIN IF THE PATIENT IS NOT COMPLAINING OF PAIN, CONVENTIONAL DENTISTS CONSIDER THIS INFECTION TO BE TYPICAL AND EXPECTED.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE TINY INFECTION IS THE PROLIFERATION OF BACTERIA COMING FROM THE DENTIN TUBULES AND UNFORTUNATELY THE INFECTION IS OFTEN LARGER THAN HOW IT IS DEPICTED ON THE 2 DIMENSIONAL XRAY.
ALSO KEEP IN MIND ....THOSE TRAVELING INFLAMMATORY CELLS VIA THE BLOOD.

<<I'm in so much agony, I want this tooth removed. Have you ever heard of anybody with bladder pain getting a root canal removed and had some kind of recovery?>>

I FEEL TERRIBLE THAT YOU ARE SUFFERING SO! YES, I HAVE MOST DEFINITELY KNOWN MANY PATIENTS WHO HAVE HAD CHRONIC PROBLEMS WITH THEIR RENAL COLLECTING SYSTEM, PROSTATE AND VARIOUS OTHER AREAS OF THE BODY WHO HAVE GOTTEN GREAT RELIEF AFTER EXTRACTING THEIR INFECTED TEETH OR THEIR ROOT CANALED TEETH AND MANY WHO HAVE BECOME WELL AFTER GETTING CONTROL OF THEIR PERIODONTAL DISEASE. DOES THIS MEAN THAT IT IS GUARANTEED TO HAPPEN THIS WAY WITH EVERY ONE, NO IT DOES NOT. THERE ARE OFTEN EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES IN ADDITION TO THE INFECTED TEETH THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE PHYSICAL PROBLEMS. DIET AND LIFESTYLE ARE TWO OF THOSE FACTORS THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE EQUATION OF THE PROBLEM.

I AM GOING TO ADD TWO ATTACHMENTS.

ONE IS A DIAGRAM OF THE ANATOMY OF A TOOTH WHICH CLEARLY INDICATES THE DENTIN TUBULES AS THEY ARE OUTLINED IN BROWN. THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF JUST HOW MANY THERE ARE IN YOUR TOOTH. THIS HELPS YOU TO HAVE A GENERAL IDEA OF HOW INFLAMED THAT TOOTH REALLY IS DUE TO THE NECROTIC TISSUE THAT RESIDES INSIDE OF THEM.

THE SECOND IS A LINK TO A TOOTH AND ORGAN CHART WHICH SHOWS THE CORRELATION BETWEEN OUR TEETH AND DIFFERENT ORGANS/AREAS OF THE BODY. THIS CHART HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE ANCIENT CHINESE MEDICINE AND IS STILL BEING USED TO HELP WITH DIAGNOSIS TO THIS DAY.
TAKE A LOOK AND MAKE NOTE WHAT ORGAN IS AFFILIATED WITH TOOTH #21...

http://www.drwolfe.com/docs/tooth_chart.pdf

I hope this information is helpful to you. Feel free to ask for clarification or more questions.

Bryanna
Attached Thumbnails
Possible infection under root canal treatment. What to do?-dentin-tubules-jpg  
__________________
Bryanna

***I have been in the dental profession for 4 decades. I am an educator and Certified Dental Assistant extensively experienced in chair side assisting and dental radiography. The information that I provide here is my opinion based on my education and professional experience. It is not meant to be taken as medical advice.***

Last edited by Bryanna; 08-24-2015 at 02:12 PM.
Bryanna is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote

advertisement
Reply

Tags
dentistry, extraction, infection, root canal, sedation


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Infection after root canal archers4 Dentistry & Dental Issues 1 05-09-2015 03:06 PM
infection under root canal Paula K Dentistry & Dental Issues 1 11-03-2013 07:16 PM
Root canal infection tyndi Dentistry & Dental Issues 6 09-27-2013 11:10 PM
root canal infection cathy75 Dentistry & Dental Issues 5 08-21-2013 03:43 PM
root canal infection cathy75 New Member Introductions 1 08-20-2013 01:33 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:45 AM.

Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.7.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.