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Old 08-07-2016, 11:03 PM #21
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Bryanna, Stop with the constant BS every time i post something here... which isn't often. You are not the one that feels like they are dying here with very little time left before the statue of limitations runs out.... Not that i have a crystal ball predicting negligence. FYI- I didn't show up at the OS with any of my prior records. You may or may not recall, I had my lingual nerve disected out of scar tissue.

Angel, Yes he can refer you to places where you might get this figured out and it may be nothing more than time will tell. I wish you better luck than you've encountered so far!
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Cleo,

I do not give you BS when you post here. I will frequently ask you to clarify your short blanket statements. I truly believe you have the best of intentions but some clarification of your knowledge can really go a long way.

I also ask that you please think twice before you lash out at me again. I really feel it was not warranted at all.

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Bryanna, Stop with the constant BS every time i post something here... which isn't often. You are not the one that feels like they are dying here with very little time left before the statue of limitations runs out.... Not that i have a crystal ball predicting negligence. FYI- I didn't show up at the OS with any of my prior records. You may or may not recall, I had my lingual nerve disected out of scar tissue.

Angel, Yes he can refer you to places where you might get this figured out and it may be nothing more than time will tell. I wish you better luck than you've encountered so far!
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Cleo,

I do not give you BS when you post here. I will frequently ask you to clarify your short blanket statements. I truly believe you have the best of intentions but some clarification of your knowledge can really go a long way.

I also ask that you please think twice before you lash out at me again. I really feel it was not warranted at all.

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Oh no! I don't want this to turn into a negative thing. I so appreciate everyone trying to help me.
Bryanna, the last statement of being overly dramatic or needy, what do you mean by that?
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Cleo,

Just curious, how do you know about this dentist/attorney? They are very hard to find because it is an unusual combination of degrees.

Thanks, Bryanna
Hi Bryanna,
I just heard from the ENT office and they keep telling me also there is nothing wrong. After I explained that I was still having symptoms they offered to do an MRI. The last time I had an MRI it was of my neck and keep telling them that it was the maxofacial MRI that caught it before. He says the neck MRI will show the dental area. Is that true? I am so frustrated, nobody will listen to me.
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Angels,

I know you are very appreciative of the help that you get here. Asking to clarify something should be a part of the communication that is shared here .... just as you are asking me to do now.

To answer your question Angels ...

Patients, both medical and dental, are typically profiled (for lack of a better word). It's not done to discriminate against anyone. It's done because patients are often anxious (maybe even petrified or in pain) and sometimes not very forth coming or accurate with information or they are not acting rationally like they would under different circumstances. Some people are naturally combative or thrive on the negative which means anything you say or do to them, is going to come back to you conflicted in some way. Also, most lay people have little knowledge of what exactly has taken place in their mouth or they have been told only bits and pieces of what was done. It can get pretty sticky ...

As a professional we need to be able to keep the important stuff at the forefront and not get too caught up in the other. When a patient is unhappy with their dentist or they are unsure of the work their dentist has provided, but they keep going back to that dentist... it makes the other dentists/doctors who were consulted wonder... why does that person keep going back there? That patient may be doing that because they feel loyal to that dentist, they may be concerned about the $$$ they laid out, they could feel confused or may feel lost as to where else to go since at least some or maybe all of the work has been done. It makes it sticky for anyone else to get involved because they do not want to make matters worse for that patient, their peers or themselves. Also, not all practitioners are going to take the time to take all of those possibilities into consideration. Instead they might interpret their initial impression of the person as overly dramatic, unsure, very needy .... etc. Did I explain that okay??

A basic example for you would be a passenger on one of your fights who is acting overly needy, dramatic or aggressive. Who knows why they are acting that way but instinctively you will know to handle that person differently because you can't get caught up in their issues, you have to get through the flight and there are also others that you have to think about.

When you speak to your ENT or others you have already consulted as well as any new practitioners you consult (including an attorney), it would always behoove you to be well prepared with your history of what has taken place and why you have concerns that something is not healing well. If your demeanor or words come across as being overly sensitive/needy, aggressive, vengeful, angry, neglected or anything other than deeply concerned about your ongoing symptoms of which you are very unsure of where to go from here for help ... you will be perceived very differently and in a more positive light. Did I explain that okay?

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Oh no! I don't want this to turn into a negative thing. I so appreciate everyone trying to help me.
Bryanna, the last statement of being overly dramatic or needy, what do you mean by that?
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Angels,

MRI's just like CT scans are done according to what is written on the script. It has to specifically be written to view the area of concern.

Who has the MRI that was already taken that showed the area? That is the MRI that you need to get a hold of.

Also, did you speak directly to the ENT or someone else at that office? Is this the ENT that saw something suspicious on that other MRI?

Before you go any further, besides feeling better, what do you want to happen? Do you want an ENT and an oral surgeon to collaborate on your case? Are you willing to force that issue if you have to? Are you confident with anyone that you have consulted with so far? If so, who?


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I just heard from the ENT office and they keep telling me also there is nothing wrong. After I explained that I was still having symptoms they offered to do an MRI. The last time I had an MRI it was of my neck and keep telling them that it was the maxofacial MRI that caught it before. He says the neck MRI will show the dental area. Is that true? I am so frustrated, nobody will listen to me.
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Angels,

MRI's just like CT scans are done according to what is written on the script. It has to specifically be written to view the area of concern.

Who has the MRI that was already taken that showed the area? That is the MRI that you need to get a hold of.

Also, did you speak directly to the ENT or someone else at that office? Is this the ENT that saw something suspicious on that other MRI?

Before you go any further, besides feeling better, what do you want to happen? Do you want an ENT and an oral surgeon to collaborate on your case? Are you willing to force that issue if you have to? Are you confident with anyone that you have consulted with so far? If so, who?


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Ok, I just called the oral surgeons office and he did a 3D ct scan the day he did the implant. He said he didn't see anything. No the ENT did not find anything on the other MRI. The doctors will not collaborate because they don't think anything is wrong. I think they think I am a hypochondriac or something. I really am not, I just want to feel good again. Meanwhile, I sit and suffer. Not sure what to do. Nobody wants to pursue this any further.
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I didn't pass the nice, polite patient profile with flying colors after what happened to me in 2001. I was most likely every dentist/doctors worst nightmare. The chairside assistant was fired and the other one wouldn't even step foot in the same room with the dentist and I, I would still suggest you seek legal help. Or you can just step away and keep going to ER
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I didn't pass the nice, polite patient profile with flying colors after what happened to me in 2001. I was most likely every dentist/doctors worst nightmare. The chairside assistant was fired and the other one wouldn't even step foot in the same room with the dentist and I, I would still suggest you seek legal help. Or you can just step away and keep going to ER
Legal help is not going to fix the immediate problem. I realize that I will need that, but I feel like I am dying here.
Also, I am married to an attorney.
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Angels,

Okay .. so your husband is an attorney. Then he can probably tell you how difficult it would be to win a case against a dentist. However, it can be done, but the plaintiff needs to have an incredibly "rare" attorney who will not hesitate to take it on. The plaintiff also needs to have ALL of their ducks in a row. By any chance does your husband know of the attorney that Cleo recommended? Any chance your husband could give him a call on your behalf or even go with you to a consultation?

You may need to pursue legal help sooner than you would like if you cannot get an oral surgeon and an ENT to collaborate and take your situation seriously. You can't keep getting scans and ending up in one dead end after another. What does your husband say about all that is going on?

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Legal help is not going to fix the immediate problem. I realize that I will need that, but I feel like I am dying here.
Also, I am married to an attorney.
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