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Old 02-05-2011, 09:50 AM #1
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Lightbulb Grapefruit and Insulin Resistance:

http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs.../jmf.2006.9.49

I just saw an author on Dr. Oz, this week, who said that grapefruit juice (unsweetened) can open receptors in muscles
and prevent weight gain when eating forbidden foods. (in his opinion, having one free day to eat forbidden foods, helps with weight loss when the other 6 days, are carefully managed.)
His name is Tim Ferriss and his video is on Dr. Oz's website.

So I decided to research his claim, and found this paper.

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/four-...fect-body-pt-3

Click on parts 1 and 2... as well...all are very interesting...and Dr. Oz and his medical staff vetted these ideas!

Be aware that Grapefruit interferes with the absorption of some drugs you may be taking. So check with your pharmacy before trying it.
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Default Thank you - Great videos with Dr. Oz.

Personally, I nix the ice therapy - no way! I feel cold already!

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/four-...fect-body-pt-1



Click here to watch Part 2.

Click here to watch Part 3.

Anyone here read the book about the 4 hour body? Follow it? Results?
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I just ordered and received it from Amazon. I was very curious about it.

Haven't read much yet. It is huge tho and filled with medical stuff. 500+pgs and very heavy to hold.

I am doing the cold packs on the neck and upper chest once a day, and they are not really that bad. With a thin cloth to protect the skin, they don't make me cold at all! (I do cold packs sometimes anyway for my spine, and PN).

What I have noticed right away is that I am warmer at night.
Our temps this winter have been in the single digits, and I tend to be cold because of my thyroid issues, but the cold packs seem to be resulting in more metabolism and creation of heat!

The grapefruit thing is not in the book that I can find. It is not in the index in the back. But it was intriguing on the show. And Dr. Oz went to the trouble of making a digital graphic to illustrate it. There has always been a "grapefruit diet", but new evidence of moderate use of it with calorie restriction, shows that it may help those with elevated insulin levels, improve that.

His diet is restrictive and is called the slow carb diet. Basically it is NO white anything. Even limits dairy.
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Well then, I retract my "nix" of the cold compress. I'll give it a try.

Slow carbs? Sounds like what my family calls "better carb choices." Nothing refined. Not meaning we eat nothing refined, but we eat them with the understanding they are a poor choice.
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His slow carbs are beans... lentils and beans and other legumes.

He claims that lentils are easier to digest, and I am going to try that. Red beans really upset me! He has a "mashed" lentils with cauliflower" to subsitute for mashed potatoes.

I am doing steak and eggs omelets with some success for breakfast tho. That 30 gm of protein is difficult. I've also done salmon for breakfast. (trying to keep the new kitten off my plate! LOL )

He also states, that if you diet everyday, your thyroid hormones slow and stop converting to T3. Hence the "binge" once a week to prevent that. I guess he tested himself and showed that or has a study to back it up. I find this intriguing too... because of my low thyroid status.

Amazon is offering this huge hardcover book 1/2 off right now. It was only $13.98.
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Okay Mrs. D.

I watched Dr. Oz and understood about the grapefruit thing if a person binges. I do not binge. I cannot binge. I don't want to binge. But they say one day a person has to binge!!!!

Maybe I can eat some forbidden food (but this does not have to be a sugar laden thing, right?) It could be fried chicken, or some other indulgence but not a big piece of cake right?

let's say once a week, I drink a small glass of grapefruit juice before I eat some forbidden thing.

I just need to know what you think a forbidden thing is better for a diabetic.

Or can I eat ANYTHING I want and just make sure I drink a small glass of grapefruit juice before I eat this.

I mean, I don't eat pizza, red meat, anything with sugar, nothing white, no refined carbs, so all of these are a FORBIDDEN thing to me.

I can pick anything of that list, and drink a small glass of grapefruit juice before I eat this, and it will rev up my metabolism??

Sounds strange but hey if it helps me lose the last 20 or so pounds I'll do it.

As a matter of fact, I'm going to buy a bottle of fresh unsweetened grapefruit juice and before each meal I'll have a small cup. Then I'll continue to monitor my sugar and if it stays good, well, I just might have a shot at losing the rest of my weight.

Imagine if I hit 65 and look like Beyonce???

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Lightbulb List of drugs that interact with grapefruit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._by_grapefruit

No one list is 100% complete. New drugs come out all the time and may not appear on lists yet.

So if in doubt, ask your local pharmacist before mixing your drugs with grapefruit.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._by_grapefruit

No one list is 100% complete. New drugs come out all the time and may not appear on lists yet.

So if in doubt, ask your local pharmacist before mixing your drugs with grapefruit.
I read the list. I looked up Alprazolam (I take either one half or 1 mg) at bedtime. I also take Lisinopril in the am. Being taking a PRIL since I'm 26 and I weighed 250 and my doctor said "you are 26 and I'm putting you on a high blood pressure med"" The only time in my life I ever had high blood pressure after that was when I had toxemia when I gave birth.

After that, (maybe it's because I take this pill every morning), I have NEVER had any high blood pressure readings. At Cornell or any doctor's office.

So I'll just take a bit of the grapefruit juice and see what happens with the Alprazolam. If I need to take one half of the pill, I'll take that.

Thanks much for all the great info. I do not know what I would do without you.

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Lisinopril should be ok. This drug is NOT metabolized by the body at all and is excreted whole in the urine.

If the grapefruit is far enough away from the alprazolam, it might be ok. But you may have to reduce the dose of it by 1/2 also, and that you will have to see when you do this.

In the book, when went to press before the TV shows, he suggests 3 oz of unsweetened lemon juice. You might have to use that.
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Lisinopril should be ok. This drug is NOT metabolized by the body at all and is excreted whole in the urine.

If the grapefruit is far enough away from the alprazolam, it might be ok. But you may have to reduce the dose of it by 1/2 also, and that you will have to see when you do this.

In the book, when went to press before the TV shows, he suggests 3 oz of unsweetened lemon juice. You might have to use that.
I have true lemon packets of crystalized lemons. I can pour a packet into a little water, chug it down and that would be that.

I can do this INSTEAD of the grapefruit juice?? Same effect?

If not, I'll just do what they all did in the video, chug down a little cup of unsweetned grapefruit juice, have some binging (god I hate that word) thing, and then do squats (or whatever resembles squats) for 60 seconds.

The video was very informative, but all that food on that table made me want to barf. To think that this is exactly how I used to eat, well, good lord!!

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