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Old 03-13-2007, 01:23 PM #1
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Default What Is Type 2 Diabetes, Really?

Here is an alternate view of Type 2 diabetes that I think makes a lot of sense.

"The classification of Diabetes as a failure to metabolize Carbohydrates is a traditional classification that originated in the early 19th century when little was known about metabolic diseases or about metabolic processes. Today, with our increased knowledge of metabolic processes, it would appear quite appropriate to define Type 2 Diabetes more fundamentally as a failure of the body to properly metabolize Fats and Oils as well as carbohydrates. This failure results in a loss of effectiveness of Insulin and in the consequent failure to metabolize Carbohydrates. Unfortunately, much medical insight into this matter, except at the research level, remains hampered by its 19th century legacy."

http://www.healingmatters.com/diabetes.htm

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Default Unhealthy Blood Sugar Levels

Even if it doesn't qualify as type 2 diabetes; even if it doesn't qualify as pre-diabetes; a somewhat elevated fasting blood glucose level (85-110 mg/dL) seems to be unhealthy (40% greater risk of death from cardiovascular diseases):

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Hi all, I am 25 weeks pregnant. Is gestational diabetes like regular diabetes? I am a bit worried about this since type 2 diabetes runs in my family. I have been trying my best to steer clear of junk food but have also given in quite a few times to cookies, etc during my pregnancy. Is that going to contribute to me getting this form of diabetes? How serious is it? Please help me with your helpful advice. Thanks a lot.
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will test you for this.

It is thought that women with familial history will express gestational diabetes...but not all do.

Also it tends to be age driven...and you are under 30.

I have strong family history of diabetes and I did NOT have
gestational diabetes. (at 34).

At this time I don't think you can predict who will have it or not.
I'd not worry at this time. You should be eating healthy anyway.
Lots of complex carbs, fruits and veggies and lean meat, with adequate omega-3 intake (either from the new prenatals) or the
OTC supplement Expecta, or from smart Omega-3 products like Smart Balance spreads, peanut butter and Mayo, and Omega-3 eggs. It is important to get adequate choline (as found in eggs) for the fetus, so get the special Omega-3 eggs when you buy your eggs and you get TWO benefits.

The baby's brain develops from essential fats, and will rob the mother for them. Another good source is Flax oil.

You can read about Expecta here:
http://www.meadjohnson.com/app/iwp/H...1&r=3407594432

Your baby will have less risk of ADHD and the best start for a good IQ with proper attention to Omega-3 intake during your pregnancy. There are restrictions to eating fish for pregnant women, including tuna. By using supplements made safely for pregnancy you will both do better.

There are several prenatals now with Omega-3's in them. Ask your doctor.

Congratulations and Best Wishes.
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"a somewhat elevated fasting blood glucose level (85-110 mg/dL) seems to be unhealthy (40% greater risk of death from cardiovascular diseases):"

Now I am thoroughly confused.

I thought 85 to 110 was normal. I'm excited when my blood sugar is 101. They reduced my Lantus the other day when I went to Cornell.

I am now on 14 of the Lantus instead of the 16. I thought my sugar reading would go up but it's fine. I'm really happy.

the other day I ate lunch and one hour later my blood sugar was 101. To me, (and when I joined the ACCORD program, my goal was to reach a post prandial reading of 170).

Well, when you see 101 one hour after you've eaten your lunch, well, I got excited.

They have no idea if I will ever go off of insulin completely. I would have to get really thin, and I have my age against me (61). but since they don't know, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

But why is 85 to 110 considered somewhat elevated.

I know MANY diabetics who are on various pills plus insulin and they can't get their sugar readings below 180. And yeah, they are obese.

What the heck is NORMAL, if 85 to 110 is considered slightly elevated?

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Hi Mel,

I dont think wasabi has been back in a while and may not answer your post.
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I dont think wasabi has been back in a while and may not answer your post.
Hi Shelley:

Thanks for letting me know.

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Well if I had numbers of 85-110 I sure wouldn't stress over it! I have a theory about how they are changing these numbers: to make more money!

My neighbor in her 80's told me one day she ate some ice cream & went over 400,now I was shocked since I've never ever had a reading in that range. This woman is thin as a bean & has lots of energy. Of course the ice cream was a treat & not something she does often.

My point in this: I think we have to look at everything as an individual. When I was first diagnosed type 2 I was thin & in good shape. I doubt you'll ever read about thin people being type 2!

I'm planning to go back on Metforim,can't seem to lose anything I don't gain right back. Also,I've neglected my B12 for far too long,after reading your post I'm going back to it.

My father takes Metforim,his fasting numbers are in the 70's,if I went that low I'd be crawling from weakness & sweating!

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Well if I had numbers of 85-110 I sure wouldn't stress over it! I have a theory about how they are changing these numbers: to make more money!

My neighbor in her 80's told me one day she ate some ice cream & went over 400,now I was shocked since I've never ever had a reading in that range. This woman is thin as a bean & has lots of energy. Of course the ice cream was a treat & not something she does often.

My point in this: I think we have to look at everything as an individual. When I was first diagnosed type 2 I was thin & in good shape. I doubt you'll ever read about thin people being type 2!

I'm planning to go back on Metforim,can't seem to lose anything I don't gain right back. Also,I've neglected my B12 for far too long,after reading your post I'm going back to it.

My father takes Metforim,his fasting numbers are in the 70's,if I went that low I'd be crawling from weakness & sweating!

Just my 2 cents

Ah, so you think that if they put lower numbers, that people would go on more pills or insulin and the big pharmaceuticals would make EVEN MORE MONEY???

Can't argue with you there. Today I made sprout soup, fresh blueberry/blackberry muffins (from scratch, using whole wheat flower and splenda).

I could eat this way forever. The salads are to die for, and a muffin every now and then is a treat.

Thank god I find this way of eating extremely tolerable. Doesn't bother me a bit. And I get to grow my own food!!!

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Just need to add, the metformin is helping me a lot.

I have been late a couple times this week. ANd I'm wondering
if this has caused my increase in problems with my gallbladder,
or that was my thought.

I'm just not sure, and gallbladder comes out next week, will
sure make me happy.

Donna
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