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Old 10-19-2013, 03:04 PM #1
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Default Chocolate, Ice Cream, etc.?

While not diabetic (so I'm told), my PN responds as if I were, so I eat accordingly—no sugar, white carbs, etc. The most I can get away with is a level tsp. of sugar/honey in my coffee; any more and my PN flares.

I'm a confirmed carbo/chocoholic, it's been ~3 years, and quite frankly... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy1SyXuWBt8

I've tried the "sugar-free" bulk candy from the grocery store, and while it tastes great, my PN still thinks the sugar alcohols (maltitol, etc.) are sugar, so... Aspartame is fine—PN doesn't care. Dark/baking chocolate doesn't do it—gives me migraines—gotta be light/milk chocolate (and sorry, but white chocolate isn't chocolate ).

What do diabetic folk eat to feed the chocolate beast that dwells within? Same question for ice cream; haven't found any kind of sugar-free ice cream—does any exist?

Found only 1 chocolate thread in the PN forum archive, unfortunately nothing of help.

I would even settle for... ...recipes at this point.

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Well, I can suck on a Dove milk chocolate piece slowly and let it melt slowly in my mouth.... giving me major chocolate blast without eating too much.

I think ice cream with the fat content, will raise triglycerides too much and that makes for thick blood for several hours, and hence maybe some foot reactions.

I will only eat vanilla HagenDaz, because they don't put so many nasty additives in it. But I rarely have ice cream... if at all.
Since our new refrigerator keeps it better, I've had a little since vacation, however. But ice cream sometimes really bothers my feet.

Watch out for sorbitol in sugar free candy and foods. One mechanism of PN offered, is a sorbitol pathway (polyol), in the peripheral nerves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyol_pathway

I have to say histamine containing and releasing foods and
nightshades cause me more grief than sugar. But I do avoid most treats most of the time...but after all a little now and then, I seem to crave. I am only human after all!
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Default Chocolate from healthy options

I love eating chocolates, too! About 4 years ago, somebody gave me a bar of chocolate that he bought from healthy options (it's a healthy store) and he said that chocolate was intended for people who are on a diet. Perhaps it's also okay for diabetics. I have diabetes, too but I still eat regular chocolates and ice cream.
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Chocolate beast ideas:

I make and eat chocolate cover strawberry,banana or carrots. I use and melt Enjoy Life chocolate chip and dip the chocolate in fruit or/and veggie.

I have no advice for chocolate ice cream or chocolate candy bar
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Well, I've had to resort to fat-free (not that fats are an issue) sugar-free chocolate pudding. Yeah, I know—all chemicals... Never eat anything you can't pronounce/spell!


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While not diabetic (so I'm told), my PN responds as if I were, so I eat accordingly—no sugar, white carbs, etc. The most I can get away with is a level tsp. of sugar/honey in my coffee; any more and my PN flares.

I'm a confirmed carbo/chocoholic, it's been ~3 years, and quite frankly... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy1SyXuWBt8

I've tried the "sugar-free" bulk candy from the grocery store, and while it tastes great, my PN still thinks the sugar alcohols (maltitol, etc.) are sugar, so... Aspartame is fine—PN doesn't care. Dark/baking chocolate doesn't do it—gives me migraines—gotta be light/milk chocolate (and sorry, but white chocolate isn't chocolate ).

What do diabetic folk eat to feed the chocolate beast that dwells within? Same question for ice cream; haven't found any kind of sugar-free ice cream—does any exist?

Found only 1 chocolate thread in the PN forum archive, unfortunately nothing of help.

I would even settle for... ...recipes at this point.

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Hi Doc,
Yesterday was Father's Day here in Australia. My husbands son came over and brought him a massive gourmet dark chocolate bar. Then they proceeded to eat this in front of me. Oh my god the torture!

I got in my kitchen last night and made my own dark chocolate. It came out perfect.

Here is recipe:

Whole roasted almonds(which I crushed)
Organic coconut oil
Stevia
Dark unsweetened Cocao

I melted all this together and poured in a mold on top of wax paper. When it cooled, I put in refrigerator over night. I woke up to 2 bars.
I hope this recipe works for you.
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Hi Doc,

Re: ice cream. If you peel bananas, wrap individually and freeze. Then throw the frozen bananas in a blender, what comes out is a frozen desert that tastes exactly like banana ice cream. Same texture too.

Just thought I'd share that tip, even though its not chocolate as such, but you mention ice cream.

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Hi Doc,

Oh how I wish I had a good answer for you. I have chocolate "attacks" where I NEED a chocolate fix. I AM diabetic, diagnosed about 7 years ago.

At first, the only thing I ate to squash a chocolate attack was something called Vita-tops. It is NOT sugar free and not for diabetics but it was healthier than my other choices. It is made by a company called Vitalicious and depending on where you reside, it is sometimes hard to find in the grocery freezer. You might want to check out their website for possibilities to appease the chocolate beast.

When I began to have trouble finding my Vita-tops locally, I switched to Russell Stover Sugar Free chocolate that comes with 6 individually wrapped bite size pieces in a bag.

Oh, one last thing. Forget the sugar free chocolate brownie mix. It tastes awful. I don't remember what they use but whatever it is, I don't like it.

I will eat the sugar free Jello chocolate pudding (already prepared and in refrigerator section of grocery) on occasion.

I don't remember what the ingredients are in most things so I don't know if these items contain, sugar alcohols, or other sugar substitutes and which ones. I pay attention at the time I purchase an item but the memory is gone after the initial purchase.

Personally, I like the Dark, solid patties but I know that would NOT be your choice.

I wish I had some good ideas for you but I think we are BOTH very limited in our choices for different reasons.

Good luck in your quest. I know the chocolate beast will hit me every so often and nothing but chocolate will put the beast back in its cage.

Oh, about the ice cream. It has been a while (since I have never been much of an ice cream person) but Weight Watchers makes an individual little one serving size of chocolate ice cream that has reduced sugar. I don't remember if they use sugar alcohols or sugar substitutes or just less sugar than most ice cream. It has been a few years since I had it. The taste is pretty good.

Again, wish I had some answers but I don't. Just wanted you to know that this person WITH diabetes has trouble with the chocolate beast sometimes, too. Thank goodness it doesn't hit me very often. Good luck in your quest.

Oh, and forget the sugar free brownie mix. It tastes terrible.

I will have sugar free Jello chocolate pudding on occasion. The ones that are already prepared and sold in the refrigerator section of the grocery. (Don't like the Hunt's brand.) I can't remember how it is sweetened. Sugar alcohols or some other sugar substitute? I check the ingredients of items at the time I purchase them but my memory is gone and I don't remember once the purchase has been made.

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Hi mrsD,

Dove is my FAVORITE chocolate. I have tried your tactics of letting one slowly melt in my mouth. Oh, how wonderful to savor. The problem is I always want MORE when it comes to Dove so I have to stay away from it completely. It is too good to stop with one. If it sounds like I have a problem with self control, I do when it comes to Dove. The only way I can control my Dove consumption is to NOT have it in the house at all.

I can use self-control with many other things but Dove kicks my self control out the window.
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