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Old 11-11-2008, 02:52 PM #1
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I have a friend that has just been diagnosed as Diabetic 2, but this guy is skinny & active and has been all his life, which is confusing to what i thought caused adult onset diabetes, he hasn't got diabetes 1, it is definatly diabetes 2 and now suffering with neuropathy of the feet, he has no family history of diabetes on either parents sides of his family, anyone heard of this before ?

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Brian,

I have seen many thin diabetics. Sometimes in adulthood,
Type I can surface. Type I is an autoimmune disease and if the attack on the pancreas comes then, well, the person may be misdiagnosed as Type II.

I knew a nurse who had this, and almost died due to poor medical management. A friend's husband became Type I diabetic at 43.

By the time type II arrives for others, about 1/2 of the pancreas can be gone. So the best way to approach type II for some is to use insulin instead of oral drugs.
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Thanks Mrs D,
I am going to try convince him to be evaluated again by another doc, making sure that his insulin levels are checked out.

His doctor put him on metformin & was told to eat a low carb diet & not to drink anymore beer [ which he did drink a lot of ] but to exercise more which the [excercising more bit] just seem ridiculus to me, as he works a very hard physical job anyway.

Crikey, i guess a misdiagnoses like this could be fatal.

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Thanks Mrs D,
I am going to try convince him to be evaluated again by another doc, making sure that his insulin levels are checked out.

His doctor put him on metformin & was told to eat a low carb diet & not to drink anymore beer [ which he did drink a lot of ] but to exercise more which the [excercising more bit] just seem ridiculus to me, as he works a very hard physical job anyway.

Crikey, i guess a misdiagnoses like this could be fatal.

many thanks
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Hi Brian:

I'm a formerly fat Type 2 diabetic who was diagnosed with Diabetic Neuropathy last year. I immediately began taking Methyl B-12. Best thing I ever did.

Try and ask your friend if he can begin taking this. I just might help him. It doesn't work for every one, but in MY case, it was a life-saver.

All the best

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Thanks Melody, i have already give him a big list of supplements from our stickies on the PN board, i told him especially about the qualities of methyl b12, he said he will get them all & will get himself rechecked by another gp, i haven't heard from him for a while as he goes away from time to time, so i don't know what is happening up to date.
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Thanks Melody, i have already give him a big list of supplements from our stickies on the PN board, i told him especially about the qualities of methyl b12, he said he will get them all & will get himself rechecked by another gp, i haven't heard from him for a while as he goes away from time to time, so i don't know what is happening up to date.
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Brian:

One more good piece of info that I have just discovered (all by lonesome by the way). I am ALWAYS trying to find various kinds of foods that are 1. healthy, 2. low glycemic, and 3. just all around good for you. (and hopefully it will be tasty as well).

Well, boy did I hit the motherload when I stumbled across this.

Simply put....I have discovered SPROUTING!!!

Don't laugh. I used to go to the health stores (the ones that served food), and I used to buy the various pints of sprouts (never knowing that I could sprout them myself). I just plunked down $2.99 to $3.99 for those little boxes.

Some were Broccoli sprouts, some were alfalfa, etc. I would just toss them in the salad and eat them.

This was years ago.

But lately (because they opened up an organic food store within walking distance of my house), well, I went in and holy cow, all the produce, the sprouts (and packages of seeds, organic lentils, etc.).

I went online, watched youtube videos and decided "why buy these when I can grow them in my kitchen".

Well, for 2 weeks now, I've been growing organic sprouts in my kitchen.

I've been adding them to my salds, mashing them up and adding them to Alan's veggie patties, WHATEVER!!! I HAVE BEEN SPROUTING.

Well you should see the difference in my sugar readings. Holy cow. They actually lowered my Lantus to 16 (I'm not on any other diabetic meds).

This morning my sugar reading was 106 and in the afternoon it's 110. Yeah, sometimes if I don't eat every 4 hours, it will read 170, but that's not the norm. My a1c is 6 (down from 9) when I entered the Accord program.

My goal is to go off of insulin. Don't know if I'll get there but that's my intention.

And if eating sprouts helps me attain this (and it's great for the digestion, and full of enzymes), well to me, it's a no-brainer.

I just made veggie patties with my left over vegetables from yesterday, and I threw in some ground up Lentil sprouts. Holy Cow, are they good.

So as far as diabetic eating, I now have found something that I can grow, eat and it helps my body.

All good, right?

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Thanks Mrs D,
I am going to try convince him to be evaluated again by another doc, making sure that his insulin levels are checked out.

His doctor put him on metformin & was told to eat a low carb diet & not to drink anymore beer [ which he did drink a lot of ] but to exercise more which the [excercising more bit] just seem ridiculus to me, as he works a very hard physical job anyway.

Crikey, i guess a misdiagnoses like this could be fatal.

many thanks
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i would suggest that he be worked up for celiac disease.......good luck
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I have a friend that has just been diagnosed as Diabetic 2, but this guy is skinny & active and has been all his life, which is confusing to what i thought caused adult onset diabetes, he hasn't got diabetes 1, it is definatly diabetes 2 and now suffering with neuropathy of the feet, he has no family history of diabetes on either parents sides of his family, anyone heard of this before ?

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Brian,

Ask your friend if his doctor ran a GAD test. This test detects the antibodies that are present if a person has autoimmune type 1 diabetes. I was diagnosed with type 2 and I felt that I didn't fit the bill for that. I was 27, I was thin and very active. I questioned the doctors because we have a strong history of type 1 in my family. The possibility that I had type 1 was brushed off. I was frustrated because I never got great results with the pills. My blood sugars were all over the place and I was very brittle. About a year into treatment for type 2, the glucophage and glyburide quit working. It was then that I was sent to an endocrinologist and he ran the GAD test. It was positive. That is when it was determined that I had developed type 1. I guess the pills worked for me as long as my pancreas was still making a little bit of insulin. As soon as it stopped making any insulin, the pills stopped working. I have been on the insulin pump for four or five years now and I love it. I am getting ready to upgrade to the Paradigm by Medtronic. I can hardly wait. It is truly like an artificial pancreas. Well, I better run. Best of luck to your friend. Let us know what he finds out...

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Thanks Evonne for the advise about the GAD test, I will inform him about that...
but anyway apparently he is doing fine these days, last Ac1 was 5.5, just doing the low carb diet and no beer at all, the neuropathy has also settled down a lot.
I guess time will tell what happens in the future though, thanks everyone
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