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Old 11-11-2008, 02:52 PM #1
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I have a friend that has just been diagnosed as Diabetic 2, but this guy is skinny & active and has been all his life, which is confusing to what i thought caused adult onset diabetes, he hasn't got diabetes 1, it is definatly diabetes 2 and now suffering with neuropathy of the feet, he has no family history of diabetes on either parents sides of his family, anyone heard of this before ?

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Brian,

I have seen many thin diabetics. Sometimes in adulthood,
Type I can surface. Type I is an autoimmune disease and if the attack on the pancreas comes then, well, the person may be misdiagnosed as Type II.

I knew a nurse who had this, and almost died due to poor medical management. A friend's husband became Type I diabetic at 43.

By the time type II arrives for others, about 1/2 of the pancreas can be gone. So the best way to approach type II for some is to use insulin instead of oral drugs.
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Thanks Mrs D,
I am going to try convince him to be evaluated again by another doc, making sure that his insulin levels are checked out.

His doctor put him on metformin & was told to eat a low carb diet & not to drink anymore beer [ which he did drink a lot of ] but to exercise more which the [excercising more bit] just seem ridiculus to me, as he works a very hard physical job anyway.

Crikey, i guess a misdiagnoses like this could be fatal.

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Thanks Mrs D,
I am going to try convince him to be evaluated again by another doc, making sure that his insulin levels are checked out.

His doctor put him on metformin & was told to eat a low carb diet & not to drink anymore beer [ which he did drink a lot of ] but to exercise more which the [excercising more bit] just seem ridiculus to me, as he works a very hard physical job anyway.

Crikey, i guess a misdiagnoses like this could be fatal.

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Hi Brian:

I'm a formerly fat Type 2 diabetic who was diagnosed with Diabetic Neuropathy last year. I immediately began taking Methyl B-12. Best thing I ever did.

Try and ask your friend if he can begin taking this. I just might help him. It doesn't work for every one, but in MY case, it was a life-saver.

All the best

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Thanks Melody, i have already give him a big list of supplements from our stickies on the PN board, i told him especially about the qualities of methyl b12, he said he will get them all & will get himself rechecked by another gp, i haven't heard from him for a while as he goes away from time to time, so i don't know what is happening up to date.
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Thanks Melody, i have already give him a big list of supplements from our stickies on the PN board, i told him especially about the qualities of methyl b12, he said he will get them all & will get himself rechecked by another gp, i haven't heard from him for a while as he goes away from time to time, so i don't know what is happening up to date.
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Brian:

One more good piece of info that I have just discovered (all by lonesome by the way). I am ALWAYS trying to find various kinds of foods that are 1. healthy, 2. low glycemic, and 3. just all around good for you. (and hopefully it will be tasty as well).

Well, boy did I hit the motherload when I stumbled across this.

Simply put....I have discovered SPROUTING!!!

Don't laugh. I used to go to the health stores (the ones that served food), and I used to buy the various pints of sprouts (never knowing that I could sprout them myself). I just plunked down $2.99 to $3.99 for those little boxes.

Some were Broccoli sprouts, some were alfalfa, etc. I would just toss them in the salad and eat them.

This was years ago.

But lately (because they opened up an organic food store within walking distance of my house), well, I went in and holy cow, all the produce, the sprouts (and packages of seeds, organic lentils, etc.).

I went online, watched youtube videos and decided "why buy these when I can grow them in my kitchen".

Well, for 2 weeks now, I've been growing organic sprouts in my kitchen.

I've been adding them to my salds, mashing them up and adding them to Alan's veggie patties, WHATEVER!!! I HAVE BEEN SPROUTING.

Well you should see the difference in my sugar readings. Holy cow. They actually lowered my Lantus to 16 (I'm not on any other diabetic meds).

This morning my sugar reading was 106 and in the afternoon it's 110. Yeah, sometimes if I don't eat every 4 hours, it will read 170, but that's not the norm. My a1c is 6 (down from 9) when I entered the Accord program.

My goal is to go off of insulin. Don't know if I'll get there but that's my intention.

And if eating sprouts helps me attain this (and it's great for the digestion, and full of enzymes), well to me, it's a no-brainer.

I just made veggie patties with my left over vegetables from yesterday, and I threw in some ground up Lentil sprouts. Holy Cow, are they good.

So as far as diabetic eating, I now have found something that I can grow, eat and it helps my body.

All good, right?

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Yes, very good Mel & great Ac1 reading too, well done i am always interested in reading about foods that are healthy for you & low GI as well, you know my story with prediabetes so i still treat myself as a diabetic 2 person just to be carefull.
I do enjoy alfalfa sprouts in the summer times mixed in with salads, i will use more of them now after reading your post, thanks ... i am not blessed with green fingers though, i fail miserably at every attempt of growing anything, but well done Mel, you are truly inspirational.
happy sprouting to you

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[QUOTE=Brian;412950]Yes, very good Mel & great Ac1 reading too, well done i am always interested in reading about foods that are healthy for you & low GI as well, you know my story with prediabetes so i still treat myself as a diabetic 2 person just to be carefull.
I do enjoy alfalfa sprouts in the summer times mixed in with salads, i will use more of them now after reading your post, thanks ... i am not blessed with green fingers though, i fail miserably at every attempt of growing anything, but well done Mel, you are truly inspirational.
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You don't need a green thumb. Believe me I have yellow thumbs. I never have been able to grow ANYTHING.

But this is fool proof. You don't have to do anything but (to start with), buy a package of organic lentils (plain lentils will also do). Put some lentils in a strainer and wash thoroughly. Rinse well. Put them in a bowl, or a jar (or anything you have). Just pat them down so they are not all over each other (try this with a small amount, so you can do a test). Then pour water over them so there's sufficient amount of water in the jar, bowl, whatever.

Leave overnight to soak.

Next day, pour out and rinse WELL!!!

Now 3 times a day, just put some water, and rinse WELL.

See, all you are doing is rinsing well 3 times a day. By the third day, the lentils start to open and you see little things coming out of them.

4th day. Take the lentils, pat them a bit dry (you don't want to put wet anything in the fridge).

When they are nice and dry, put in a bowl, cover and put in fridge. Take them out when you need to put them in a salad.

Try this, YOU CAN DO THIS.

I want to hear that you did this. It's fun!!!!
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Hi Brian:

They say a picture is worth a thousand words!!! And I do wish I had better lighting where my webcam is, but you can still see them.

Here's the journey to SPROUTING!!!

Here's what my sprouts look like in the rectangle ziplock bowl that I soak then in, and I keep them in for 3 days as I rinse and drain them.



Now here is a close up of the sprouts once they are sprouted and ready to be eaten:


And here is the lovely finished product mixed in with my spring mix, a few sliced black olives, some lovely cherry tomatoes and anything else you care to put in a salad. Add a dash of extra virgin olive oil, some freshly ground pepper and (if you're allowed), a bit of light salt, or sea salt.


Looks good no????
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Brian:

One more good piece of info that I have just discovered (all by lonesome by the way). I am ALWAYS trying to find various kinds of foods that are 1. healthy, 2. low glycemic, and 3. just all around good for you. (and hopefully it will be tasty as well).

Well, boy did I hit the motherload when I stumbled across this.

Simply put....I have discovered SPROUTING!!!

Don't laugh. I used to go to the health stores (the ones that served food), and I used to buy the various pints of sprouts (never knowing that I could sprout them myself). I just plunked down $2.99 to $3.99 for those little boxes.

Some were Broccoli sprouts, some were alfalfa, etc. I would just toss them in the salad and eat them.

This was years ago.

But lately (because they opened up an organic food store within walking distance of my house), well, I went in and holy cow, all the produce, the sprouts (and packages of seeds, organic lentils, etc.).

I went online, watched youtube videos and decided "why buy these when I can grow them in my kitchen".

Well, for 2 weeks now, I've been growing organic sprouts in my kitchen.

I've been adding them to my salds, mashing them up and adding them to Alan's veggie patties, WHATEVER!!! I HAVE BEEN SPROUTING.

Well you should see the difference in my sugar readings. Holy cow. They actually lowered my Lantus to 16 (I'm not on any other diabetic meds).

This morning my sugar reading was 106 and in the afternoon it's 110. Yeah, sometimes if I don't eat every 4 hours, it will read 170, but that's not the norm. My a1c is 6 (down from 9) when I entered the Accord program.

My goal is to go off of insulin. Don't know if I'll get there but that's my intention.

And if eating sprouts helps me attain this (and it's great for the digestion, and full of enzymes), well to me, it's a no-brainer.

I just made veggie patties with my left over vegetables from yesterday, and I threw in some ground up Lentil sprouts. Holy Cow, are they good.

So as far as diabetic eating, I now have found something that I can grow, eat and it helps my body.

All good, right?

melody
I just joined this forum and I have some questions. I am an overweight type 2 diabetic. I was diagnosed in 1996 and almost immediately acquired severe diabetic neuropathy - worse than people who had diabetis for 30 years. I have a spinal cord stimulator, duragesic patches(150) and Vicodin ES for breakthru pain. Does anyone have any suggestions to relieve neuropathic pain?
I am going to try the sprouts to get my sugar down and my partners- his A1C is 11 and his sugar is frequently over 300. He had gotten it down under 200 for the first time in years but when he hit the doughnut hole in medicare he couldn't afford his Insulin (NovalogN). His doctor gave him Novalog but he is having a real rough time getting it under control. He loves salads and sprouts - we just didn't think of using them.
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