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Old 01-04-2009, 02:48 AM #31
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You two are a riot. And so much fun. I wish I could get into sprouts
my husband wouldn't know what to think. But I am just not about
that.

heehee

And I am not allowed fish or anything like that right now. Till after
friday, I'm having a iodized Thyroid test. And I have to be careful
and not have a cscan either.

Heehee, Now I keep wanting to say, why the heck would I want to
allow a cat to scan me.

ANyway, get to feeling better Dorrie.

Donna
Meow meow Donna!! Have you seen our new social group yet?? I think you would really like it Donna! In case you do not know how to get there...click on user c p on the left of your screen...click on networking on the left of the screen as well..then click on social groups!! Scroll down untill you find the group "Weightloss and healthy living 2009" It is oodles and bunches of fun!! It is not live chat..just posting like here but by posting all of our chitter chatter on there we keep the "Post your weightlosses here thread" to a very serious thread and just post our particulars on there/
I hope you check it out and join Donna ..the more the merrier!!!!! HugsDorrie
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You two are a riot. And so much fun. I wish I could get into sprouts
my husband wouldn't know what to think. But I am just not about
that.

heehee

And I am not allowed fish or anything like that right now. Till after
friday, I'm having a iodized Thyroid test. And I have to be careful
and not have a cscan either.

Heehee, Now I keep wanting to say, why the heck would I want to
allow a cat to scan me.

ANyway, get to feeling better Dorrie.

Donna

Donna:

Believe me, I was NEVER into sprouts. I didn't even know what the heck a sprout was. Then one day I was walking to my local supermarket and I came across an organic food and produce store named Adam's Apples. I said "hmm, organic stuff?"

I went in. The prices of the produce and veggies were WAY ABOVE what I could afford. Organic stuff usually is.

But then I wandered over to the sprout section. There they were, in little pint packages. There was alfalfa, broccoli and pea shoot sprouts. I picked them up and saw the prices.

The cheapest was the alfalfa at about $2.49 a pint.

The broccoli and others were $3.29 a pint.

I said 'i wonder if I could grow these things?"

I bought some of the sprouts and began putting them in my salads. They were delicious. I then incorporated them into my patties. Oh my god were they good.

So then, I went online to Sproutpeople.com and began reading everything I could on sprouting. I said "I can do this, I have the mason jars, the cheesecloth, I CAN DO THIS'.

That's when I went on youtube and saw a whole bunch of videos and I said "yeah, I can do this".

THEN, I learned about sprouting lentils, beans, etc.

I went back to Adam's Apples and went over to their seed packages. All organic. And when I figured out much it would cost to grow my own (compared to buying them already grown), I said "here is where I can save money on my food bill".

I haven't bought any lettuce since I started to sprout my Alfalfa. I use this as a base for my salad. I did the research. There was some alfalfa scare YEARS ago, but that was commercial alfalfa and had nothing to do with organic alfalfa, nor did it have anything to do with growing it in your kitchen. so every day, I take my sprouts, add some cherry tomatoes, some sliced red onion, some sliced olives, (and whatever else I want to throw in my salad). along with some tuna (not every day, but when I feel the need for extra protein). boy oh boy, what a nice delicious salad.

Then I take the sprouted beans, peas and lentils, and I put them in a stir fry. Alan went nuts. He actually requests them at night.

See, we never ate like this before. It's not processed, it has no salt (unless you add your own), and all these sprouts are VERY GOOD FOR PEOPLE WITH DIABETES.

I know I sound like some Amish farm wife, but I get such a kick out of growing stuff in my kitchen. I was never into this before.

I guess I now have my very first hobby.

Yesterday I ordered some 3 part salad mix sprouts from handy-pantry.com

God only knows what I'll make with these once I get them sprouted.

Oh, guess what I found out from a Sprout-people message board (yup, they have their own message boards).

I found out that instead of rinsing the sprouts with plain old water, if I rinse them with Green Tea, (de-caf), then the sprouts are infused with all the good stuff that is in the green tea.

I never knew such things in all my life.

so gone are the days when I ate processed foods, gone are the days when I ate white stuff.

My sugar is better for it, and believe me, my stomach is better for it. I also added yogurt and kefir to my daily eating habits.

To me, it's all about habits. I had a bad habit for almost 60 years of eating the wrong stuff.

So now I just replaced the bad habits with some better habits.

Can't hurt, might help and the stuff tastes good AND I SAVE MONEY.

Now what could possibly be wrong with that.

I just have to buy some more wide mouth Mason Jars.

I can't wait to see Alan's face when he wakes up and there's 6 more jars of sprouts, growing on my sprout rack.

lol lol

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Lightbulb There are TWO

commercial sources now for d-chiro inositol.

Chiral Balance
DCI Chiro

They are both expensive. (about $100 a month)

I have just started on a 3 month trial to see what this can do
for my elevated fasting insulin.

DCI has shown in animal models, and now humans that it can lower blood pressure, reduce inflammation of blood vessels,
lower testosterone in females, reduce insulin levels by up to 1/2 and improve glucose utilization.

example:
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Int J Exp Diabetes Res. 2002;3(1):47-60.Click here to read Links
D-chiro-inositol--its functional role in insulin action and its deficit in insulin resistance.
Larner J.

Department of Pharmacology, University of Virginia School of Medicine, Charlottesville 22908, USA. jlarner@insmed.com

In this review we discuss the biological significance of D-chiro-inositol, originally discovered as a component of a putative mediator of intracellular insulin action, where as a putative mediator, it accelerates the dephosphorylation of glycogen synthase and pyruvate dehydrogenase, rate limiting enzymes of non-oxidative and oxidative glucose disposal. Early studies demonstrated a linear relationship between its decreased urinary excretion and the degree of insulin resistance present. When tissue contents, including muscle, of type 2 diabetic subjects were assayed, they demonstrated a more general body deficiency. Administration of D-chiro-inositol to diabetic rats, Rhesus monkeys and now to humans accelerated glucose disposal and sensitized insulin action. A defect in vivo in the epimerization of myo-inositol to chiro-inositol in insulin sensitive tissues of the GK type 2 diabetic rat has been elucidated. Thus, administered D-chiro-inositol may act to bypass a defective normal epimerization of myo-inositol to D-chiro-inositol associated with insulin resistance and act to at least partially restore insulin sensitivity and glucose disposal.

PMID: 11900279 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

PMCID: PMC2478565
This is a natural substance that our bodies' use and make, and it is thought at some people genetically fail in this regard.
Insulin resistance and PCOS are considered genetic by many doctors. So since I had PCOS when I was younger, I thought this would be a good test for me.

So yes, now you can buy it. But it remains very expensive at this time. (Other things were like this too, SAMe, benfotiamine and CoQ-10. So perhaps with time, this supplement will become more affordable as well).
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Hi Mrs D

I have just recently quit smoking and wondered what supplements I should take if any...I cannot do expensive and I have some typical vits and mins here already...any suggestions? HugsDorrie
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Lightbulb I'd start with magnesium first...

All diabetics become low in this and need extra because for some reason it is lost in the urine for these patients.

There is an interesting post on my magnesium thread concerning this:

Shelley's post: #148
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread1138-15.html

This is not expensive. One of these twice a day is enough for most people.

I don't know what you have in Canada.
this is generic SlowMag:
http://www.walgreens.com/store/produ...id=prod2785034

Just don't get magnesium oxide (which is common and cheap)
It is not absorbed.

The mag thread of mine gives other choices, and dosing.

Start with that, and use your other multivits as well for starters.
Go for about 1/2 the RDA at 200mg a day.
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Thank you Mrs. D
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commercial sources now for d-chiro inositol.

Chiral Balance
DCI Chiro

They are both expensive. (about $100 a month)

I have just started on a 3 month trial to see what this can do
for my elevated fasting insulin.

DCI has shown in animal models, and now humans that it can lower blood pressure, reduce inflammation of blood vessels,
lower testosterone in females, reduce insulin levels by up to 1/2 and improve glucose utilization.

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This is a natural substance that our bodies' use and make, and it is thought at some people genetically fail in this regard.
Insulin resistance and PCOS are considered genetic by many doctors. So since I had PCOS when I was younger, I thought this would be a good test for me.

So yes, now you can buy it. But it remains very expensive at this time. (Other things were like this too, SAMe, benfotiamine and CoQ-10. So perhaps with time, this supplement will become more affordable as well).
I'm just glad that at this time. In the beginning of my journey I can count
on everyone that I've met so far.

I'm still learning, and I'm working on getting better.

Donna
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