First of all they don't cut into the stomach anymore.

They put a band around the neck instead.

Secondly, the studies that were released about diabetics improving was shown to be false...
I can't find that article now...but it claimed that the people who showed improvement in diabetes were only 10% of those who had the bariatric procedure...that the claims were skewed and manipulated. Most of the media coverage of these claims are based on inflated results.

This article is interesting too.
http://diabetesupdate.blogspot.com/2...and-kills.html

If you Google it you might find the article I saw.
Many people develop severe malasorption syndromes from bariatric surgery. And many gain the weight back. The proponents don't tell you that.
We know one gal who lost almost 200 lbs and she is gaining it all back! The body tends to want to be at a certain place, and will circumvent things like bariatric surgical procedures.

Here is the vinegar thing:
http://www.dlife.com/dLife/do/ShowCo...f_vinegar.html
I have to wonder though, when food leaves the stomach in a normal person it is highly acidic...and then neutralized by the enzymes from the pancreas which provide bicarb. People with NO ACID in their stomachs because they are taking the drugs like Nexium etc their doctor's give them, would have terrible issues with carbo digestion. Using the vinegar in this case may help. But I doubt it does much for a normally acid person. The normal stomach is very acidic...VERY, already.

I hear you on the stomach absorbtion thing.

I once read that "When you hear a person say "I have an iron stomach, I can eat anything, I don't have any acid", well, that MIGHT NOT BE A GOOD THING because you need acid to break down what you eat and then you absorb all the vitamins and minerals, etc. from what is broken down. So if you don't break down anything (and wouldn't these people be constipated all the time because they don't break down anything??), well, then how can they get the B-12 THAT THEY NEED, and they wouldn't get any nutrients right?

I have a friend who says "I can eat anything, it passes right through me and I go the bathroom 3 times a day" She also drinks Polish Mineral water, and takes Magnesium Citrate (in a bottle from Solgar), every day. She says she used to have bad cramps in her legs BEFORE she took the Magnesium Citrate.

I once said "That's the reason you go to the bathroom all day long, you take Magnesium citrate every day, it has a laxative effect".

Am I incorrect in my assumption? Because in the drug store, on the laxative aisle, there is a bottle of liquid marked Magnesium citrate and it's marketed as a laxative.

I told this to my friend and she said "No, that's not what I take, I take Magnesium Citrate from Solgar and it's in a pill and that's completely different from the liquid in the bottle in the drugstore".

So my dear Mrs. D, isn't Magnesium citrate, well, isn't it MAGNESIUM CITRATE, no matter what the form??

Thanks,

Melody

P.S. I just went out for breakfast, passed the grocery store, and wouldn't you know it, I forget to buy the vinegar. As we are having some kind of Nor Easter here in Brooklyn, it's like a mini hurricane outside, and I'm staying put.

I really wanted to go for a nice walk in the sunshine, but not day.
Oh, the doctor also told me "If you want to get a good night's sleep (without any meds), make sure you get plenty of sunshine during the day, and don't go on the computer for 2 hours before you go to bed, because it stimulates the brain".

I said "oh, you are talking about regulating the circadium rythm right?"

We both laughed and she said "Exactly".

lol
Mel

magnesium citrate is both.

In lower doses it does not usually have laxative action.

In higher doses it may. People vary in response to it.
Some can take more before getting loose. The liquid in the store is designed to be taken all at once for bowel prep for Xrays and various tests.

Others like me get effects at lower doses. That is why I prefer food sources as a primary source.

Citrate Magnesia (liquid) has 290mg/30ml. The bottle is 8 ounces or 2320 mg/8oz or 2.4 grams

Solgar Magnesium Citrate has 200mg/tablet.
If your friend takes them all at once, they may be more laxative than if she spaces them during the day. But no guarantees on that, since people differ alot.

Both are the same thing, only different in dose.

See, YOU TAUGHT ME ANOTHER THING TODAY!!!

lol
thanks much

Melody

P.S. I just harvested some Broccoli, Fenugreek, and some Clover sprouts, and made it into a salad. I added some grape tomatoes, some sliced black olives, and the whole thing is bursting with various colors.

Who is going to eat this? My neighbor around the corner. She LOVES sprouts.
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