just to get clear... before i assume you have not.

have you actually ever been exposed to these languages in your life? (even not for a long period... even perhaps during early infancy?)

~ waves ~

lol I wouldn't worry about it Mel. I do hope you don't feel too alone though, Pm me any time if you want to chat

Hi Waves (*Chuckles at High Waves*)

No, I can't say that I can ever remember anything like that. I do remember from a very young age. People don't believe me but I remember the frst time I opened my eyes after being born and seeing the midwife slapping the trainee midwife for doing something stupid (won't write what here). And I remember very clearly seeing, not in black & white, but grey, various shades of grey and some white, like the nurses caps & aprons were white.

I even remember my mum being gobsmacked when I asked her "why the lady hit the girl when I was borned?" To this day it freaks her that I saw it & that I remember it. off topic sorry...

I was never exposed to anything that could explain the types of conversations and words that come up...What thinketh ye?

Dear RhiannonsMoon,

what i was thinking was... if you had been exposed, but you haven't that you acquired some understanding of these languages - perhaps just phrases commonly heard combined with actions - a child's brain can hardwire that... in your linguistic centers which are in the temporal lobe(s) (different languages may be in different lobe) ... so i was thinking a temporal lobe sz could be "waking up buried languages."

but that doesn't fly if you haven't actually been exposed to the languages!

unless of course you are a believer in past lives, but i wasn't heading that direction, i was thinking on a pure neurological, this life basis. you could say i was moonstruck by your userid and the Gaelic... even though Welsh would have been a closer fit... there is that proximity, and you have spelling particularities common to my own early schooling. (is that cryptic enough!)

i suppose it is possible you had visitors as a child that you don't recall because of being asleep by then... but perhaps not completely. now i'm really REALLY stretching it.

seriously, i will see what i can find out assuming you indeed had NO exposure, as it is we do have this input:
i'm into languages... so i'm... curiouser and curiouser!

must be awfully annoying though. i do actually speak several languages and when i dream sometimes my dreams contain "composite speech."

when i'm awake i can and do mishmash two languages with my family who also speak both, but that's different - not an intrusive thing. when i have hypomania.... yikes. then i have things like the typical "tune you can't get out of your head" - but i don't actually hear it as in a hallucination. the problem i have however is that, the phenomenon is multiplied... i might have 3 different songs overlaid all playing intertwined somehow (plus loose verbal nonsense on the side.) that gets awfully distracting and the songs have on occasion been in different languages which gets even more "interesting" but this has nothing to do with epilepsy either, and is not remarkable insomuch as i do speak the languages.

i'll poke around and let you know when i find something.

~ waves ~ from across the ocean

Thanks Waves,

I guess anything is possible. I must change my answer though. Because when I was a kid my parents took me on a cruise and the cruise ship was Greek and the crew were mostly Greek. How could I forget something like that?? Sorry. But the other languages apart from the Gaelic which was widespread where I lived as a child but I didn't think I had picked any of it up. Obviously my brain was working without my full understanding (typical Irish). My Mother is Welsh but I've never heard her actually speak the language, not that I can remember...Boy you've started an avalanche here lol...

Thanks for your help...I do have TL epilepsy, so maybe I'm having flash backs to every foreign film I ever saw that had subtitles (we have international free to air tv here and I like to watch that, always have done, as an adult)...Thank You for making me think

Then it makes sense. A child will absorb language like a sponge, and if you do not use it, you might seem to have forgotten it as an adult ... or it might seem you never learned.

But with TLE, having had juvenile exposure to those languges, then yeah, i'd say it all adds up. Those auditory hallucinations do not surprise me at all, nor that you understand the phrases spoken.

Hang in there! I things can get under control soon. It does not sound like a picnic.

((( hugs )))

~ waves ~ glad to share a thinking cap any time

Hi Rhiannon,

I stumbled upon this post and must say it is intriguing... about hearing all the languages. I think I believe in genetic memory... that things learned by our ancestors are stored somewhere in our brains and may be recalled under some circumstances... so I guess that might sync with past life regressions. Except I don't know if I'd believe the past lives are personal ones or ones of my ancesters. Perhaps you should consider seeing someone for a past life regressions session... it might be interesting! I've not had it done, but I know of someone who did, and mostly found it entertaining.

Otherwise, in regard to history of seizures, major depressive disorder, agoraphobia, panic & generalised anxiety disorder..... I was wondering if you have ever heard about or been tested for Pyroluria? Check out the right bar for some symptoms and labs that do testing. We used BioCenter to test my daughter and she was positive. Her main symptoms included seizures, mood swings, depression, anxiety, brainfog, sensitivity to lights, sounds, and odors, freuqent general illness (throat infections, sinus infections, UTI's). Food sensitivity is not uncommon.
http://jccglutenfree.googlepages.com/pyroluria

whatdyaknow... even found a youtube video explaining it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1OJ87eA0Lg

Hi JC,

Thanks for the information. There are a lot of symptoms there that I don't have though.

As far as the PLG..I'm a qualified PLG Therapist. I've been on many self guided journies, and journies guided by other therapists.

I'ts a fascinating thing to do, as long as one is guided through the levels only and then allowed to enter the experience on their own with nothing implanted into their mind.

Thanks again for the information though I really appreciate you going to all that trouble. I will mention it to my Dr. Maybe she will order some tests. I'll let you know,

Cheers,
Rhiannon

The list is of possible symptoms... nobody will have all of them. Lack of dream recall, one of the hallmark symptoms, is something my daughter didn't have (although she did sleep walk!). Anyway, just a thought... especially since treatment with B6 can resolve seizures when this is the problem.

I too have auditory seizures. Mine are very, very loud; steam locomotive sounds and helicopters like I'm standing right next to them. The likelihood of there being either in my living room is zero. Sometimes before I go to sleep, I hear a street sweeper; at 11pm, not in my burg!
Hearing music and voices that aren't there; that happens too. Used to drive my hubby crazy singing every song that just popped into my head unbidden; haven't done that in a very long time. I seem to have a detailed memory for music, with or without lyrics, and I think that's where the music thing comes from.