Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Fibromyalgia syndrome is a widespread musculoskeletal pain and fatigue disorder which generally occurs in the muscles, ligaments, and tendons – the soft fibrous tissues in the body. This forum is for fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Immune Deficiency Syndrome (CFS/CFIDS).


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Old 04-27-2009, 04:49 PM #1
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Im a new member but I have suffered with FM since 1988. I am glad to see your post on on Dr. Clauw. Since the beginning his work has been one of few who gave credence to the syndrome as being more than just in your head. Thank you for taking the time to share with us the research going on. I look forward to learning more.
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Hello AZ and welcome to NeuroTalk. I too, suffer from FM along w/a couple of other DX's and I can describe it in one word~~ miserable. I'm glad you found us and I hope you check out our New Member Intro forum and post there, as more members will see it then.

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A Warm Hello to All!

I have enjoyed reading back through this thread! Lots of interesting info!

mrsD: I cannot even begin to express the depth of my gratitude for your never-ending commitment to making sure people have access to important and accurate information, in so many different specialty areas! You do an amazing job...you know your science and can deliver it/teach it, with a heart of gold, too! You have such an intensely positive impact upon the lives of so very many! I have my depest respect, admiration and gratitude.

Did a conference occur in late May of 2009?

Fiberowendy: I'm so glad you have been in great hands, under the care of Dr. Goldenberg! Nice of you to mention Don L. Goldenberg, M.D. He's a fantastic person, an amazing doctor and a long-term prominent researcher! He was studying fibromayalgia in the 1980's and also working to help individuals suffering badly with fibromyalgia back then! He'd also collaberated on a study, along with Anthony L. Komaroff, M.D. (Brigham and Womens Hosptial in Boston, MA.). In that study, they were taking an early look at the differences and the commonalities between fibromayalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome at that time. (Each of these gentlemen are outstanding doctors, dedicated researchers and avid life-long advocates for the people suffering from the conditions they each continue to research!)

My very best to all!
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yes, the conference however did not have Dr. Clauw in it.
The scientist who gave the "fibro" portion had a thick accent and no one could understand him.

But since this subject came up today at PN, I'll put up this NYTimes article about the subject in case some missed it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/14/health/14pain.html

Also here is Dr. Zubieta
http://www.med.umich.edu/opm/newspag.../painbrain.htm

Most of the conference was
1) political things involving chronic pain, because of the upcoming legislation
2) estrogen induced pain, and migraine
3) diagnosing rare chronic head pain
4) PT issues with chronic pain

Dr. Clauw BTW is in the NYTimes article. He told us in 2007 that the drug companies are preparing drugs to make alot of money on Fibro...considering it a last frontier of sorts. Since that lecture Lyrica was approved for Fibro and so was Savella recently (which is not going over well so far-lots of complaints). Pfizer has already stated that it is not going to continue cardiovascular research in favor of more drugs like Lyrica.

I have seen many many patients who supposedly have a Fibro diagnosis, being treated with the wrong drugs.
Also the trigger point injections and diagnositic criteria are no longer being considered as valid by the researchers of same.

This remains a highly controversial topic. It is no fun having pain all day. But it is also unfair to be misdiagnosed and a real pathological issue might be found with proper testing.

I myself had a tentative fibro diagnosis years ago ...which was empty. So I know it can happen.
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Hi mrsd,

Wow! You have responded very quickly!
This is interesting information!

It's exciting to see research (hopefully) getting closer to the truth on cause(s) and appropriate treatment(s). It has been a very long haul for those suffering and also for the researchers. I can recall an interview with both Dr. Goldenberg and Dr. Komaroff in mid-80's. They were extremely hopeful of having very clear answers within 10 years. Unfortunately, it has been much longer than ten years. (However, I am grateful to all of the researchers remaining dedicated to sorting this all out!)

Yes, many have been misdiagnosed and have been treated poorly. I do not deny that. I have seen so very much of it. It's extremely important for all people get second opinions (and more if possible) to be sure their own diagnosis is as closest to the correct diagnosis as possible.

Again, I am grateful to you for this information, for your input, and for all you lend to the health and welfare of so many individuals.
I know so very many people are grateful to you!
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Thank you so much, MrsD and to all of you posters who take the time to share what you know from your own experiences.
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