[caroline2]

Thought I'd post this.. Maybe some here may be interested.

http://go.thetruthaboutcancer.com/sn...a_bid=5408f863

[kiwi33]

Thanks for that link.

I think that it makes some sensible suggestions; don't smoke, eat in a healthy way, etc.

However, in my view it is confusing because it implies that cancer is "one disease". It is not - usually cancer arises from a number of mutations (4-6 is typical) in genes which encode proteins which are important in controlling cell division.

These mutations differ - those involved in the different forms of breast cancer are generally not the same as those in the different forms of bowel cancer, etc. This is something that many 1000s of evidence-based biomedical scientists all round the world are working on.

This knowledge can lead to improved therapeutic outcomes. For example, a breast cancer which is which is oestrogen-dependent can, post-surgery, be treated with tamoxifen while one in which HER2 is over-expressed can be treated with Herceptin. Evidence-based medicine in action.

Swapping these treatments round would be pointless - it saddens me that the link does not discuss this (one of many examples) in a rational way.

[caroline2]

Just the messenger here...it's a series starting today and I viewed the preview and it's presented by mostly all alternative healers.

I've discussed breast health here and FOR ME I'm counting on the OPC antioxidants to continue to be cancer free and my iodine dosing and for my hormone support it's DHEA.

[caroline2]

Oh and I forgot to mention I don't buy into mammograms. Had 2 over 25 yrs ago and that's been it.

[Vowel Lady]

I watched all of the previous episodes (last year). These are new. I just finished today's first episode. I think there are nine in the series. This topic is of interest to me. My mother died at age 49 of cancer and I was appalled re: her tx.

You have to click on the link Caroline provided and give your first name and email in the spaces provided. They send you a link in your email to watch. Each episode is available free for 24 hours, then it moves to the next. This is largely, if not entirely, on the dissatisfaction with current cancer tx, and ethics within the profession (for example the AMA), and that there are alternative treatments to consider.

Tonight's episode #1 was good. Gave a brief review of chemo and how it was discovered after doing autopsies on those who died via Mustard Gas. Gave a brief history of how holistic medicine was once accepted, but how Carnegie and Rockefeller, big business, patents and greed changed this entirely.

MUCH was covered on how chemo is often a dangerous tx and even in many cases the medicine being used is identified as carcinogenic. Also about how parents are often forced against their will to give chemo to their children.

One thing of great interest to me was comments /info. about "ghost articles." This was disturbing. Apparently there is a practice where a pharm. co. writes a medical article touting a drug as successful and then basically approaches a well known doctor to take the article and put his name to it. The doctor has no way of knowing if anything in the article is true. Studies etc. might very well be made up. The article is written well and seems legit and gets published in a prestigious magazine. Other doctors see this, recognize the well known doctor's by line and think this med must be good and prescribe it because they trust the doctor. They actually think they are doing something good, not realizing it is all fraudulent. I can only hope this practice has stopped.

Along with the potential dangers of chemo, I would say the second main theme of tonight's episode was that the medical industry, perhaps especially when it comes to cancer, seems to be one filled with "corruption, greed and fear." But, the narrator also says that we are fortunate that in our lifetime, this is all coming out in the open and being called to question.

[caroline2]

My sadness is that I got rid of speakers so I can't hear this. The history of chemo comes from Carnegie and Rockerfeller and the history of fluoride comes from Alcoa and Mellon, all these big wigs from my home born area. I watched some of the first episode but could not hear. DARN... Thanks Vowel Lady for the report.

[Vowel Lady]

You are welcome. I wish they had provided more scientific info. But when dealing with holistic medicine, there doesn't seem to be much money for or interest in research. And as the documentary pointed out, you can't patent a natural substance.


At least we know that eating in a healthy manner...avoiding sugar, junk food, and eating lots of veggies, etc. might help to avoid cancer and other illnesses like heart disease.

For myself, personally, I've had the best results with my health problems working with doctors who practice what might be considered integrative medicine. I'm very appreciative of my good and knowledgable doctors who study in a variety of arenas and am grateful for the help they have provided for me.

[caroline2]

I hang out with too many alternative healing thinkers and have a lot of info stashed in my brain if and when it's needed. Personally, I would not use chemo. My mother had a bout of cancer in her 80's and I've wondered about the dx years later and remember her misery on those drugs and being burned with radiation.

[kiwi33]

Caroline, a point of clarification; you wrote "and being burned with radiation".

Radiation therapy does not burn cells. Radiation, applied to a local site, damages the DNA in cells at that site. Normal cells (which are not dividing rapidly) have time to repair that damage. Rapidly dividing cancer cells do not have time to repair that damage so they are forced to "commit suicide" - a process which is called apoptosis. This is all well-understood cell biology.

[Vowel Lady]

I have seen people who have done very well with traditional treatment for cancer. I have a friend that had chemo and radiation for breast cancer several years ago (it could be ten!) and is doing well. She was getting a mammo, I think twice a year, but now it is once a year. I know someone else who had a similar treatment perhaps 4-5 years ago, but ended up getting leukemia from her treatment. She barely survived it all, but today seems to be doing well.

My mother died from chemo. at age 49. It never helped her one ounce. Her tumor remained the same size. She died of sepsis. She died in horrible pain. I do hear this story somewhat often. It was gruesome.

And I know some chemo treatments seem to be very effective. I think leukemia and lymphoma might be two examples of ones that are highly effective.

I know for myself, I don't like it when doctors who seem to be making headway in the holistic world, are suppressed. Sure, there are charlatans out there, but interestingly,there are many who show possible breakthroughs and it is a shame that they aren't being taken seriously.

One new thing I have noticed is that John Hopkins as begun research on Mistletoe and how it might be used in cancer treatment...so things are changing a little.

I'm forever grateful to my doctors who use allopathic meds...otherwise I would very likely be dead. But, I've run into troubles in the last few years where more natural things have greatly improved my standard of living. For example: Capsaisin for nerve pain. And I can't say enough about a Oil of Oregano.***Fortunately, my doctors tend to be open minded.

Very brief review of Episode #2:

If you get cancer, don't consider yourself a victim. Open your mind to integrative or holistic healing. Many have had good results.

7 essentials to consider (mostly for prevention):

1. Let food be your medicine 2. Detox/ greatly reduce your intake of toxins 3. Balance your energy/ exercise, proper sleep, balance hormones 4.Heal emotional wounds/ work on and let go of past 5. No more amalgam fillings! 6. Consider herbs and vitamins/ boost your immune system 7. Consider holistic meds and Thermagraphy instead of mammography.

There was much discussion about essential oils possibly having a healing effect on the body. Discussion about how nature might have more answers than originally thought.
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This piqued my interest as I have been blown away re: the efficacy of Oil of Oregano and sinus infection prevention.

I personally, do mammography one year, and Thermagraphy the following, alternating. But, I think I will do Mammagraphy a little less often...perhaps every two years. A 2:1 ratio, filling in with Thermagraphy. Each has to do their own research (awareness) and make their own personal decisions.

I'd like to mention that I had/have a doctor that was slow to accept that Vitamin D was important for bone health. Why? Because it wasn't what he was taught and he doesn't seem to like it when anything non prescription is recommended even by scientists. Then, this became well known as helpful and he begrudgingly recommends Vit. D. I recently asked him about Vitamin K and he had a fit, saying that Vitamin K had nothing to do with bone health. Hmmm. There is lots of literature about it very likely being helpful and this is part of the reason I eat lots of green veggies. This same doctor takes LOTS of monies from pharmaceutical companies. Hmmm. I just don't like it when folks in the medical field suppress helpful info. for patients. I see him less and less and will likely stop seeing him soon. Again, we need to be aware.




Caroline...hope you get speakers for your computer!!!!

***i got the shock of my life when I saw just today! a highly trained well respected doctor who quietly shared with me after I shyly told her about the Oil of Oregano, that she too is recently experimenting with it because another doctor had told her how wonderful it is. I only take it now and then, but have gotten VERY good results, even with small amounts. A natural product that is very effective.