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Old 04-14-2020, 04:51 PM #11
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Caroline, where I absolutely agree that a healthy immune system is important, I believe your blanket statement that the "virus is not contagious" to be totally incorrect. It IS contagious and we DO need to heed social distancing and other protective measures to help avoid it's spread.

There is also increasing evidence of healthy individuals getting the covid-19 illness that this virus causes, primarily because they were in contact with someone "shedding" the virus, not because of any "compromised immune system". ie it is contagious!

Although yes, people with "pre-existing conditions" that likely have compromised their immune systems are tending to have more severe forms of the illness, and sadly many succumbing to it, yet there are also those becoming very ill, and some dying, who do not fall into the pre-existing condition or elderly/weakened immune system categories.

I do think we need to be realistic of our basic ignorance related to this novel corona virus, that still has so many unknown factors associated with it.

Fact based information is key in this pandemic.
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I'm reading this info for about the 3rd time as there is so much info here. One comment about 1957 Sally mentions is when

The year 1957 marked the installation of radar worldwide. The “Asian” influenza pandemic began in February 1957 and lasted for a year. A decade later the U.S. launched twenty-eight satellites into the Van Allen belts as part of the Initial Defense Communication Satellite Program (IDCSP), ushering in the “Hong Kong” flu pandemic, which began in July 1968.

This is the year I was hit with the Asian flu, no one else in my family of 5, only me. And I was so so sick but I recovered obviously.


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I am sorry Caroline, but I am not going to accept covid-19 info as fact from a cookbook author, nomatter how nutritionally correct her recipes may be!

The about section from that link you posted gives her credentials:
About - Nourishing Traditions

Conspiracy theories abound right now, and suddenly everyone is an "expert".


I guess we will just have to respectfully agree to disagree on this, and I hope you will continue to be safe.
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Caroline, the Covid-19 virus is very "contagious". It has currently infected about 2 million people world-wide of whom about 120000 have died because of their infection.

The reasons for those tragic deaths are complex but I doubt that having "very strong immune systems" (I am not sure what you mean by that) is the only factor involved.
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Sally Fallon is NOT just a cook book author. She has MORE info in the link than I have seen anywhere else and believe me, I've seen a LOT from many other forums and broadcasts etc and I'm not saying the TV as I have none of that. I now am t hinking since I had a BAD asian flu in 1957, and was it a coronavirus? That I may have an immunity to flues, as I have not had another one in decades, and I don't get vaccines.

Did people read the Sally link, nothing about cooking in there....She's head of the Weston Price Foundation that is true and does believe in good nutrition but doesn't author cookbooks -- she may have over some yrs I don't know.
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We really don't know how many have died and "they" don't either. SO MANY area much older and have existing chronic health conditions, and I'd bet millions are Vit D deficient. And how many of these sick people ever take Vit C, my guess is minimal.

I have come in contact with so much info "outside the main media" and even from nurses/doctors who have done podcasts on "dumbing down the numbers"....I won't post any of that there thou. I've said enough I guess, and Weston A Price (Sally Fallon) are not seen on the tv's. C
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Caroline, I read Fallon's Web site with interest.

Among other things she blames the introduction of the IDCSP, which you mentioned above, for causing the 1968 Hong Kong flu epidemic because it caused disruption of the "faint currents [which] govern everything that happens in the body to keep us alive and healthy." I have no idea what that means.

More recently she attributes the Covid-19 pandemic to the introduction of 5G communication systems because they cause changes in "planetary electrification". Again I have no idea what she means.

In my view both of these claims are evidence-free conspiracy theories.
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Caroline, I read Fallon's Web site with interest.

Among other things she blames the introduction of the IDCSP, which you mentioned above, for causing the 1968 Hong Kong flu epidemic because it caused disruption of the "faint currents [which] govern everything that happens in the body to keep us alive and healthy." I have no idea what that means.

More recently she attributes the Covid-19 pandemic to the introduction of 5G communication systems because they cause changes in "planetary electrification". Again I have no idea what she means.

In my view both of these claims are evidence-free conspiracy theories.
Kiwi: You haven't read/heard the 5G theories? I sure have, over a month ago.

And as I said I was hit with the Asian Flu the year all the radar hit the U.S. That was 1957. Did you see that paragraph in her article?
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Sally Fallon is NOT just a cook book author. She has MORE info in the link than I have seen anywhere else and believe me, I've seen a LOT from many other forums and broadcasts etc and I'm not saying the TV as I have none of that. I now am t hinking since I had a BAD asian flu in 1957, and was it a coronavirus? That I may have an immunity to flues, as I have not had another one in decades, and I don't get vaccines.

Did people read the Sally link, nothing about cooking in there....She's head of the Weston Price Foundation that is true and does believe in good nutrition but doesn't author cookbooks -- she may have over some yrs I don't know.
If you look at the "About" section of her Webpage, the first sentence is this:

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Sally Fallon Morell is best known as the author of Nourishing Traditions®: The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats.


You say in another post that you have opted not to wear a mask or gloves. You say you think you might be immune to flu of any kind since you had the 1957 Asian flu.

Science has never shown that that happens. I too had the 1957 Asian flu but had flu a couple of times after that. I'm very glad that the flu vaccine came along and I get a flu shot each year.

This particular virus is new. It's never been seen before. Nobody knows yet just how it's going to behave. That's one reason why we have to be so very careful--at least until more is known, and that is going to take time.

Another reason for being careful (social distancing, masks, protective gloves) is that when any contagious bug is going around, it's advisable to be cautious. With this bug we have to be very cautious because (a) it's so very contagious, (b) not much is known about it yet, (c) it has the potential for being fatal is dangerously high, especially in people over 65, and (d) you can be a carrier for the virus and capable of spreading it to others even though you have no symptoms.
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Oh I bought Sally's Wise Traditions book years ago and it's about healthy cooking, I forgot about that...she believes in bone broths and oils etc etc...>BUT she is in charge of the whole Weston Price Foundation and I believe they are in D.C. They have/had chapters in the world and I joined the Santa Monica chapter many yrs ago, probably 20 yrs ago or so. Learned a lot and they still exist based on Dr. Price's knowledge and findings.

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Just last night I heard a discussion with Dr. Judy Mikovits and talk about mind opening. She would be very willing to debate Anthony Fauci but he doesn't want that. Here is more on her and latest book

Dr. Judy Mikovits – The Bravest Woman in Science… – BolenReport

She and Erin Brockovich are heros...
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