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Old 03-13-2020, 06:29 PM #1
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Default General Info on CoronaVirus outside of Media Stuff

All I hear from media is keep distance, wash hands, stay out of crowds, hand sanitizers, masks, etc...and NOTHING about keeping and working on a Strong Immune System. Like Vit C, Grape Seed Extract and other antioxidants for this purpose. I received the following from some friends to this end.

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I just talked to my neighbor who is challenged with RA, and that is an autoimmune disease. For some reason I thought people who have these diseases and take biologic drugs for their issues, cannot take Vit C, grape Seed Ex etc to strengthen their whole body immune system and she said oh no, she is taking at least 3K of Vit D daily and when she gets enough money buys the Grape Seed Extract.

So I'm happy to hear this, she is a person who has always been into supplements but this RA hit her a few yrs ago and bam what a life change she has gone thru.

The RA weakens her immune system and the drug she takes helps slowing down the damage..but the Vit C, etc work on her whole system. Glad I got that from her mouth, she is up on it all for her body.
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There are two ways in which somebody could become immune to COVID-19.

(1) Get vaccinated against it. No vaccine is currently available.

(2) Get infected with it.

Use of antiviral drugs like Remdesivir against COVID-19 is under very active investigation. Results may become available in a month or so.

The general suggestions you mentioned, "keep distance, wash hands [I did this after going shopping this morning], stay out of crowds, hand sanitizers, masks". are all good ones.
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So kiwi, are you saying keeping Immune System in tip top condition, won't keep the virus away. I'm sorry but sanitizers and masks are not even in my arsenal....vit c etc are.
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For somebody to become immune to COVID-19 one of two things needs to happen; they need to be vaccinated with it (there is no vaccine for it) or they need to become infected with it.

There is no evidence that self-medication with Vitamin C or Grape Seed Extract has any effect on either of these two events.
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Jumping on a soapbox and speaking on this topic now as just another individual here (not as NT admin)

I feel it's important to distinguish between having specific immunity to this novel coronavirus (per what kiwi33 posted) and doing all possible to keep one's immune system as well functioning as possible (as caroline2 has posted)

Long before this virus.....
I have always been a firm believer in maintaining a healthy immune system via a clean as possible environment in my home & garden so as not to stress immune system, (ie no pesticides, household chemicals, dusty clutter etc) and also keeping my diet as healthy & organic as I can, as well as taking daily nutritional supplements known to be of benefit (which even my MD agrees on!)

I am not an "anti-vaxxer" per se, but I am cautious of some vaccines and how they impact our immune systems, while recognizing those vaccines that have also saved countless lives ( I am old enough to remember people with polio, but also educated enough to consider thimerisol in vaccines hazardous.)

Decades of both formal and personal education, as well as caring not just for myself, but also for some very health challenged family members, have taught me that many natural remedies (including foods!) have remarkable healing or health protective properties, and sometimes conventional medicine is slow to catch up on those.
Not everything beneficial has scientific research behind it, and often anecdotal evidence is highly underrated.

So I tend to keep a very open mind on health and healing, while still being mindful of the importance of science and conventional medicine when it is sound and well practiced.

I know not everything "natural" is necessarily beneficial, and as with most treatments, not everyone responds the same way to the same thing.
I do also think it's essential to also remember that some supplements (and even things like grapefruit!) can have detrimental interactions with certain medications or be contraindicated in certain conditions.

I guess my emphasis is, that as with most things in this life....balance is key!

OK, off my soapbox for now

I do hope and pray for all members here that protection against this virus will be high and contraction rates low.
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On this topic I rec'd a message from my good friend about the message she got from her cardio MD. He's pretty mainstream but VERY OPEN to supplements and this is right up her alley. She ended up with afib a while ago but is very into the holistic healing life, but now takes some pharma meds for the afib fear.

Her doc highly recommends collodial silver, selenium, Vit C and Zinc as a fight against this virus. I will be getting a new supply of zinc/copper combo as one has to balance the other.

The above info from Che Mar is a good balance but in my life I work to do MOSTLY alternative medicine and homeopathy and homeopathy works a lot in my life, and I take about 5 remedies daily for my health which includes SLEEP and eye health, no eye disease at almost 82.

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Caroline, I hope that this never happens but if you get infected with COVID-19 there is a high risk, given your age, that it will have a fatal outcome. What you do to strengthen your immune system will not change this.

That is why I suggest that you give careful attention to risk minimisation methods.

They are, quoting from you; "keep distance, wash hands, stay out of crowds, hand sanitizers, masks, etc ".

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Kiwi, I started probably 2-3 yrs ago on being out of crowds, I did my life of crowds when I was in my younger years believe me, and since I gave up my car a couple years ago due to damaged knee, I don't get out much anymore unless a friend takes me to market and a restaurant now and then, but even my friends are steering clear of big crowds in recent years before CV...and I don't use antiseptic stuff nor masks but am very aware of keeping hands clean with hot water and soaps...my home is pretty clean and not a busy place with a lot of people coming and going. I get food deliveries and friends shop for me too. But now the shelves of stores are bare a lot...too much panic out there. Thanks.
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It's truly NONE of the EXPERTS, talk about the Most Important thing we NEED TO DO.

It's all about the immune system, not the virus.

Those showing no symptoms have very strong immune systems. Those getting really sick and dying have very stressed/compromised immune systems.

The virus is not contagious. The virus is a sign that your immune system is weak. It is not the germ. It is the environment. The environment being the body (immune system).
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