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Old 07-21-2020, 02:55 PM #11
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Mask & studies info...
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/acsnano.0c03252#
5 Questions: Stanford scientists on COVID-19 mask guidelines | News Center | Stanford Medicine
Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus | UC San Francisco
and COVID-19: Considerations for Wearing Cloth Face Coverings | CDC
studies linked at bottom of that page..
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So many pushing for a vaccine or drug and we've been living with the common cold forever...isn't the cold from the CV family?
Covid-19 infections have killed more than 143000 people in the US and 612000 people worldwide. That is why development of vaccines and other treatments is very important.

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What we can do is continue to strengthen our immune systems with the great antioxidants which do keep our circulatory system moving.
I have no idea what this sentence means.
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You don't know what the antioxidants mean, Kiwi. Wow. So I'm starting to think perhaps not many supplements are taken in your country.

More people die from the common seasonal flu every year and we never heard about this...

We all need to do what we feel comfortable doing, right? I LOVE my antioxidants, supps/vits and minerals.

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Caroline, you used three phrases with technical meanings in your sentence in ways which I do not understand. They are "immune system", "antioxidant" and "circulatory system".

The Australian public health system is based on evidence-based medicine. This may be why eating supplements is not fashionable here.
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They all work together, antioxidants with circulation and strong immune system.

Changing topics a bit, I like to check populations of other countries and as huge a country that Australia is, only under 26Million population, US I hear lately close to 340Million...major major difference.....
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I am just going to interject here that our beloved mrsD was a highly respected Pharmacist, who knew volumes about the medications she dispensed...pros & cons....yet she also studied, understood and advocated the benefits of specific supplements and other nutritional elements in overall health.

Here in the USA, Big Pharma really does "corner the market" and so supplements only get advocated by them if they can make a $ from it.....

I spent many years as a research scientist, and I saw first hand how easily "evidence based" results are sometimes "adjusted" (being polite here) to fit the hypothesis by some researchers -- so I don't have blind faith in science, while still recognizing the tremendous value in well conducted research studies.

Yet, I also know from personal, familial and other experience that supplements do have tremendous benefit in many areas of health.

I personally do think keeping an open mind is wise.

Also, just a gentle request not to let the discussion here become argumentative, rather than a healthy exchange of ideas Thanks
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Oh Kiwi, we don't eat supplements, little extreme comment I think.

And yes it's true MrsD posted a lot of great information and I thanked her often and added to her info.

And I did NOT know she was a pharmacist, and speaking of them, every 3 months on Noory's late night program, Ben Fuchs pharmacist is a guest and I love to hear his info and he's all about the immune system and yet on another group I'm a member, a retired pharmacist does all in his power to discredit supplementing. Very interesting
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