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Old 11-09-2020, 03:10 PM #1
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I've been hearing Herd Immunity is the way to go...many believe go that way and many do not. Just talking to a longtime RN friend last week and today and she believes Herd Immunity is the way to go. She has been hit with Crohns and some cancers in her later years, and takes all the Immune System builders she can and is sick and tired of the fear and masks and being told to stay home.

To continue on the way we are, masks, lockdowns, etc etc etc can go on and on and on.... People NEED to get on with their lives and work to mop up the damage already done to their lives.... I'm fortunate overall, as I'm retired and not losing businesses and schooling children, etc....

Here is what AARP says about Herd Immunity.

Experts on The Prospects for Herd Immunity and COVID-19

And I'm sure there will be both sides of this Herd Immunity on this forum.
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If you read that article you linked you would see in section 5
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So then what is the best way to stop the coronavirus from transmitting until a safe and effective vaccine is widely available? “Masks,” Mokdad says. “For the first time in our history as humans, we have the chance to save so many lives by simple, cheap, non-pharmaceutical [masks].”

"It requires people to not just think of themselves and to think of what we can do to help be mindful and responsive of other people's needs,” Levin says. “And if we can do that, I think we can hang on until the point that we have some good primary prevention or we have a treatment that works for everybody."
They also clearly explain how very difficult it is to obtain herd immunity without a vaccine......
In fact, the article you linked actually does not support the comments you made Caroline.

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Experts on The Prospects for Herd Immunity and COVID-19
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I read the link again and I lean to #3, but will read it again. If and when a vaccine is available, people who take vaccines should do this one too. I have not taken any vaccines for 40 yrs probably and no flu in all those years and what little flu I might have been close to I've nipped with Oscillo homeopathy med. I rely on my own natural immune system which I feed very well.

They will be adding the preservatives they do to vaccines and we can probably count on aluminum being one of them grrrrrrrrrrrrr
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You "lean to #3" ????

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Even in the most optimistic scenario, we'd see about 13 million deaths globally and 1 million deaths in the U.S. from the coronavirus before herd immunity is reached in the absence of a vaccine, IHME predicts.
Herd immunity by natural infection is simply not a realistic goal in this COVID pandemic.

It really is important for us to maintain an accurate approach to a very very serious global situation. Our opinions may differ, but the facts do not.
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another factor.. They are not sure how long covid immunity might last for people.
We still don’t know what COVID-19 immunity means or how long it lasts | Science News

[Two new studies demonstrate how severity of disease is predictive of longer-lasting antibody production and detail how immunity wanes over time but may exist for up to 7 months.]
Studies show long-term COVID-19 immune response | CIDRAP

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) | CDC

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Several vaccines are at an advanced (Phase 3) stage of clinical trials.

Probably more the one will be needed before any get regulatory approval (by the Therapeutic Goods Administration here), similar in other countries.

As others have pointed out, ideally several criteria should be met.
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